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9/19 White Sox at Royals

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Win tomorrow, and I'll take 2 out of 3 on the road.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:39 PM)
Alexei and Viciedo just flat out sucked tonight. Manto has some work to do with both guys, as there were obvious mechanical flaws with each tonight.

 

Can not work with players that have no ability to adjust their swing or approach and neither have shown that they can do either, they are what they are.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 03:40 AM)
Should we treat Tank like Swisher the last month of 08? Bench for Wise?

 

Do you trust him to hit Guthrie, Santana, Haren, Weaver, McAllister, Kluber and Masterson?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:39 PM)
Alexei and Viciedo just flat out sucked tonight. Manto has some work to do with both guys, as there were obvious mechanical flaws with each tonight.

 

 

Facing Chen is kind of like going up against a knuckleballer.

 

He will take you completely out of your offensive game if you let him.

 

With Dayan, he's young, although he has seen him multiple times and enjoyed success. With Alexei, veteran players should have learned by now, but he's always been a fastball first hitter and always will be.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 03:41 AM)
Win tomorrow, and I'll take 2 out of 3 on the road.

 

Hopefully A's also show up tomorrow and beat the Tigers.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 07:42 PM)
Do you trust him to hit Guthrie, Santana, Haren, Weaver, McAllister, Kluber and Masterson?

I trust him to hit better than Tank at this point, regardless of the pitcher.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 08:42 PM)
Can not work with players that have no ability to adjust their swing or approach and neither have shown that they can do either, they are what they are.

Yeah, I want them to have a better plan at the plate. They have no concept of trying to shorten their swings and put the bat on the ball, regardless of the situation.

 

I've had enough of Tank.

 

I don't want to watch him play for another 5 years.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:42 PM)
Do you trust him to hit Guthrie, Santana, Haren, Weaver, McAllister, Kluber and Masterson?

 

At this point in time Wise brings a whole lot more to the table than Viciedo. Wise is not the better player but time is limited here.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 02:43 AM)
I trust him to hit better than Tank at this point, regardless of the pitcher.

 

I meant Viciedo with that question. I agree, give me Wise over Tank right now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:43 PM)
Hopefully A's also show up tomorrow and beat the Tigers.

 

I really was counting on A's to do some damage.

 

Thankfully Tigers are mediocre on the road. Hopefully KC will be to them what they are to us.

This is one of Viciedo's best months. Now we want him benched after one game. Every day it's a new paranoia. Wise suddenly elevated to godlike status. I like Wise but he's the guy on this team with a PH track record, and his slugging is due for a return to career norms

Edited by Jose Paniagua

Hell of a game for the Cubans tonight.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:42 PM)
Do you trust him to hit Guthrie, Santana, Haren, Weaver, McAllister, Kluber and Masterson?

 

 

Kluber and McAllister, definitely.

 

Guthrie isn't really overpowering, but his control has been so good, he's been unhittable for the Sox.

 

 

The problem is how long can Wise continue to sustain this level before getting overexposed and regressing to AAAA/journeyman/waiver wire status?

The Cubans are having a hell game.

I know tonight doesn't look good. But game isn't over yet. Weirder things have happened. Maybe we can get like 10 bloop hits in a row.

Edited by sunofgold

We are trying to get a playoff spot, right?

Have a night Lexi

Hawk it still is a E6........................Stoney must want to blow his head off somedays.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 02:44 AM)
This is one of Viciedo's best months. Now we want him benched after one game. Every day it's a new paranoia. Wise suddenly elevated to godlike status. I like Wise but he's the guy on this team with a PH track record, and his slugging is due for a return to career norms

 

Almost all of Viciedo's damage this month was against LHP (Diamond and Chen)

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:44 PM)
I really was counting on A's to do some damage.

 

Thankfully Tigers are mediocre on the road. Hopefully KC will be to them what they are to us.

 

 

The problem is they have a 10 game homestand and we go to LA.

 

At the end of the season, they're not playing good teams on the road, either. I don't trust the Twins, but maybe the Royals can beat them.

 

As far as benching Viciedo goes, what happens when Wise inevitably cools off and Dayan's rusty and cold from not playing enough? Who do we have that can hit then?

Cy Veal

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 07:47 PM)
The problem is they have a 10 game homestand and we go to LA.

 

At the end of the season, they're not playing good teams on the road, either. I don't trust the Twins, but maybe the Royals can beat them.

 

As far as benching Viciedo goes, what happens when Wise inevitably cools off and Dayan's rusty and cold from not playing enough? Who do we have that can hit then?

 

There's only a few more weeks of baseball. Maybe he realizes this may be his only chance at a ring and will give it his all. With Tank I'm not seeing much upside right now.

 

Sox say damn we beat KC last night . We can prevent that from happening again by not scoring.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 02:47 AM)
As far as benching Viciedo goes, what happens when Wise inevitably cools off and Dayan's rusty and cold from not playing enough? Who do we have that can hit then?

 

Viciedo's been just terrible vs RHP for a few months now. I'd rather take my chances with Wise hitting well the next two weeks than hoping Viciedo is all of a sudden going to start hitting righties consistently.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 02:50 AM)
There's only a few more weeks of baseball. Maybe he realizes this may be his only chance at a ring and will give it his all. With Tank I'm not seeing much upside right now.

 

Just think how much in the doghouse he'd be if Rios didn't hustle and Prince wasn't bad on defense.

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