GoSox05 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 LaGuardia is under water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 So glad that I happen to not be scheduled to travel anywhere this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 12:59 PM) Seaside Heights was bound to get the wrath of God for a few years now, so at least in this particular instance it isn't as surprising. Â Â Are you saying that this is God's payback for the Jersey Shore TV show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 This wouldnever fly politically, but I'd love to see it... if you are in an area ordered to evacuate from a natural disaster by proper government authorities... and if you had time to do so (say, at least 24 hours)... and you are not PHYSICALLY DISABLED from doing so... and you stay anyway... the full cost of any rescue operations or other assistance brought to you, YOU have to pay for. And that will be administered as a debt to government, like tax liability, which immediately rises to the top of all held debts. Â You want to be stupid? Fine. You pay for your stupidity. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 07:52 PM) This wouldnever fly politically, but I'd love to see it... if you are in an area ordered to evacuate from a natural disaster by proper government authorities... and if you had time to do so (say, at least 24 hours)... and you are not PHYSICALLY DISABLED from doing so... and you stay anyway... the full cost of any rescue operations or other assistance brought to you, YOU have to pay for. And that will be administered as a debt to government, like tax liability, which immediately rises to the top of all held debts. You want to be stupid? Fine. You pay for your stupidity.  Great, plus provide transportation and a shelter for all of those in the city to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Goddamn that is bad. Â Not gonna lie, NYC being that vulnerable worries me a tad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 02:56 PM) Great, plus provide transportation and a shelter for all of those in the city to get out. Â that would be nice.. If a natural disaster were to hit chicago, i dont really know where id evacuate to personally even with 24 hours notice.. Drive the family truckster as far south/west/north/east as possible and sleep at a motel 6 till its over? Maybe granma and grandpa could fly me into Miami last minute for $800 a ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 08:00 PM) that would be nice.. If a natural disaster were to hit chicago, i dont really know where id evacuate to personally even with 24 hours notice.. Drive the family truckster as far south/west/north/east as possible and sleep at a motel 6 till its over? Maybe granma and grandpa could fly me into Miami last minute for $800 a ticket. Â And you have a truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) And you have a truck. Â True but the dog and the ol ball and chain would take up all the space with their necessities like food and make up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 07:19 AM) I supposed that is better than Olivia Newton John. She's definitely the first person I think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 First time since 1888 that NYSE was closed for two consecutive day due to the weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) This wouldnever fly politically, but I'd love to see it... if you are in an area ordered to evacuate from a natural disaster by proper government authorities... and if you had time to do so (say, at least 24 hours)... and you are not PHYSICALLY DISABLED from doing so... and you stay anyway... the full cost of any rescue operations or other assistance brought to you, YOU have to pay for. And that will be administered as a debt to government, like tax liability, which immediately rises to the top of all held debts. You want to be stupid? Fine. You pay for your stupidity. Agreed. It's hard to feel sorry for people that had the chance to leave, but instead said "f*** this, no storm is going to move me out of my house, I'm a tough guy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) HMS Bounty  edit: apparently a friend-of-a-friend was on the HMS Bounty. I don't know him, but he was one of the ones rescued. Edited October 30, 2012 by StrangeSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 01:56 PM) State and local can't borrow money like the Fed can. Do we really want recoveries which should be a year or two to last decades? Having entire parts of the country unproductive due to catastrophe would eventually start to impact the economy and your pocket book. Â And beside that, there are few parts of the country immune from catastrophe. New York isn't as an area that commonly gets hugely affected by these things. Â This argument can be extended for ANY governmental spending. Local communities can't pay for schools. MAKE THE FEDS PAY! Local communities can't pay for their police force. MAKE THE FEDS PAY. And on and on. Â I get it, FEMA serves a purpose, but they should be the secondary guarantor, not the primary. Maybe if states were responsible for this they'd be better at saving and not wasting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) This argument can be extended for ANY governmental spending. Local communities can't pay for schools. MAKE THE FEDS PAY! Local communities can't pay for their police force. MAKE THE FEDS PAY. And on and on. Â I get it, FEMA serves a purpose, but they should be the secondary guarantor, not the primary. Maybe if states were responsible for this they'd be better at saving and not wasting! ridiculous in so many ways. wait till it happens to you and your attitude will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 04:42 PM) ridiculous in so many ways. wait till it happens to you and your attitude will change. Â Parts of my family go through this s*** every 5-6 years living within a few miles of the Mississippi. I see no good reason why this can't be handled on a state/local level. These are hundred year storms we're talking about. Save a little here and there and over 100 years you'd have plenty of money to pay for everything that needs to be handled. Edited October 30, 2012 by Jenksismybitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 04:06 PM) Parts of my family go through this s*** every 5-6 years living within a few miles of the Mississippi. I see no good reason why this can't be handled on a state/local level. These are hundred year storms we're talking about. Save a little here and there and over 100 years you'd have plenty of money to pay for everything that needs to be handled. they're not 100 year storms anymore. they're happening every year. we're in a period of climate activity where storms like this - along with other extreme weather - are going to be the norm for the next 20+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Most states run a negative budget with the fed every year. But for a few states like California, Illinois and New York, they wouldnt even be able to afford their regular spending, let alone pay for a disaster. Â I like that you care about state accountability, but the problem is that most states have none. Perhaps you shouldnt get any federal money if you are running a deficit with the fed. Â That would be nice for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 05:06 PM) Parts of my family go through this s*** every 5-6 years living within a few miles of the Mississippi. I see no good reason why this can't be handled on a state/local level. These are hundred year storms we're talking about. Save a little here and there and over 100 years you'd have plenty of money to pay for everything that needs to be handled. I see no good reason that it should be handled at a state/local level primarily. Planning 100 year budgets is absurd and useless if you get a run of bad years. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 http://news.yahoo.com/photos/hurricane-san...-202122035.html  Link has 100 incredible pictures of the storm.  Pretty intense stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 The less the state government does, the better. The whole notion of state by state governance becomes more obsolete by the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joxer_Daly Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 01:30 AM) http://news.yahoo.com/photos/hurricane-san...-202122035.html Link has 100 incredible pictures of the storm.  Pretty intense stuff.   Jesus, pretty hardcore!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 This .gif is just an awesome display of the size and movement of Sandy  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 wow  Tom Skilling was on Chicago Tonight last night and went over some of the meteorological science behind Sandy and why it's unique http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2012/10/30/...hurricane-sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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