With the value being acquired for starting pitching via trade, I really hope Quintana and/or Floyd are seriously being discussed with some teams.

Arguing with Marty basically is the White Sox offseason thus far. What fun. Gimme more please

 

I've found conventional wisdom here on Soxtalk to be wrong quite often. Remember, KW was going to be GM this year and beyond without question according to conventional wisdom on here.

I've found conventional wisdom here on Soxtalk to be wrong quite often. Remember, KW was going to be GM this year and beyond without question according to conventional wisdom on here.

 

Yeah, we were too conservative -- he got promoted

Yeah, we were too conservative -- he got promoted

 

More like "promoted".

I've found conventional wisdom here on Soxtalk to be wrong quite often. Remember, KW was going to be GM this year and beyond without question according to conventional wisdom on here.

 

Instead you are arguing with a guy who is a professional licensed and experienced major league baseball trainer over how this particular surgery projects for John Danks recovery.

With the value being acquired for starting pitching via trade, I really hope Quintana and/or Floyd are seriously being discussed with some teams.

I guarantee you Floyd has been. Quintana...I just don't think anyone is going to give up what you'd ask for him after his performance last year.

Instead you are arguing with a guy who is a professional licensed and experienced major league baseball trainer over how this particular surgery projects for John Danks recovery.

 

If Soxtalk thinks he's going to be fine . . .

 

If Soxtalk thinks he's going to be fine . . .

 

Yes, you know more than professionally employed certified MLB trainers.

Yes, you know more than professionally employed certified MLB trainers.

 

Danks will throw less than 190 innings next year.

Danks will throw less than 190 innings next year.

Wow, way to go out on a limb there.

Danks will throw less than 190 innings next year.

Hey didn't you hear the news? Apparently John Danks has regained his lost velocity, learned how to pitch inside, stopped walking guys and finally learned a third pitch. All thanks to an exploratory surgery that apparently "experts" have guaranteed was a success. No chance at all it didn't work, thank heavens!

 

Thou shall only discuss John Danks with blind optimism on Soxtalk.

Danks will throw less than 190 innings next year.

 

So explain to me the surgery, the limitations, the repair work, and what exactly about it will lead to those limitations.

Hey didn't you hear the news? Apparently John Danks has regained his lost velocity, learned how to pitch inside, stopped walking guys and finally learned a third pitch. All thanks to an exploratory surgery that apparently "experts" have guaranteed was a success. No chance at all it didn't work, thank heavens!

 

Thou shall only discuss John Danks with blind optimism on Soxtalk.

 

This sums it ALL up perfectly.

So explain to me the surgery, the limitations, the repair work, and what exactly about it will lead to those limitations.

 

I'm not a certified trainer.

I'm not a certified trainer.

 

So what is all of this "history" you are basing calling all of Soxtalk idiots for listening to an actual trainer for. You do have some actual evidence before call out people, right?

Hey didn't you hear the news? Apparently John Danks has regained his lost velocity, learned how to pitch inside, stopped walking guys and finally learned a third pitch. All thanks to an exploratory surgery that apparently "experts" have guaranteed was a success. No chance at all it didn't work, thank heavens!

 

Thou shall only discuss John Danks with blind optimism on Soxtalk.

 

By all means, let proceed in ignorance to what professionals who actually do this for a living say.

The only history is that when healthy, John Danks is a good to great pitcher

The only history is that when healthy, John Danks is a good to great pitcher

I wouldn't say great.

So what is all of this "history" you are basing calling all of Soxtalk idiots for listening to an actual trainer for. You do have some actual evidence before call out people, right?

 

I have no evidence only opinion. I do question conventional wisdom here on Soxtalk.

I have no evidence only opinion. I do question conventional wisdom here on Soxtalk.

conventional wisdom on sox talk I just want to hear something new and inspiring or even thought provoking. It just seems so quiet and there is too many questions concerning the 2013 white sox

If we wanna talk about history, I don't ever remember ptatc steering us wrong. He always has sound justification for what he has to say.

I saw that I missed a lot in this thread while I was watching football all day. Then I read through and realized that I haven't missed anything.

I saw that I missed a lot in this thread while I was watching football all day. Then I read through and realized that I haven't missed anything.

If we wanna talk about history, I don't ever remember ptatc steering us wrong. He always has sound justification for what he has to say.

 

So we can expect 190 innings from Danks next year.

I don't think he could have pitched through it.

 

There were questions about Danks not taking the next step in his development before the surgery. I have a hard time believing the surgery will vault him to the next level.

 

 

At this point no one is wrong so let's assume it's a 50/50 split OK ;) But, the reports on his progress have been good. I tend to believe he will come back and pitch very well. Who would have thought Jake P was going to rebound like he did? I don't think the surgery Danks had was as bad as Jake's.