cabiness42 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Notre Dame has averaged playing roughly 3 big 10 schools a year. So the ACC gets 2 more games, and had to give ND a shot at the ACC bowl bid. That is called trade rape. Big 10 is going to lose some of their games as a result of the deal, so it's really a +3-4 games for the ACC and not just +2. Also, the bowl bid is a bit less important now that there is a playoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 The ACC is on its deathbed. Better jump now if you're UNC or else pray the Big 12 somehow dies first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 03:51 PM) Have you seen this confirmed anywhere? its hard to tell if its a rumor or true. The guy from 24/7 Maryland has been legit before, but some of the fake guys are running this too so hard to tell. Yes, a very good source from 11 warriors reported it. Looks like its legit. I know OSU has been all over NC and VA for football talent the last year or so and Georgia is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 03:55 PM) Big 10 is going to lose some of their games as a result of the deal, so it's really a +3-4 games for the ACC and not just +2. Also, the bowl bid is a bit less important now that there is a playoff. The bowl bids are worth like $10-20mil, so Im pretty sure that is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 10:01 PM) Yes, a very good source from 11 warriors reported it. Looks like its legit. I know OSU has been all over NC and VA for football talent the last year or so and Georgia is obvious. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 So basically college athletics is going to be two conferences - "East" and "West" So lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 04:13 PM) So basically college athletics is going to be two conferences - "East" and "West" So lame. Not all of college athletics. Its going to be basically like when Illinois or another state adds a new division (I think it was 6a) for the really big schools. Youll just have more divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 04:13 PM) So basically college athletics is going to be two conferences - "East" and "West" So lame. "East" & "West" is better than "SEC" & "everyone else" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 04:19 PM) "East" & "West" is better than "SEC" & "everyone else" I assume eventually the Big10 will get the leverage to outlaw over-signing and then there wont be much difference between the SEC and everyone else. Its just much easier when you get to sign more recruits than other leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 04:12 PM) Link? Looks like the twitter info I saw was based on the maryland stuff. I trust these guys though http://www.elevenwarriors.com/buckshot/201...oin-the-big-ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I realize that the Big 12 is Texas, Oklahoma, and everyone else. Fox and ESPN are paying a lot to make sure it survives though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Rock, That Ermann guy was involved in the MD story break, so at least he has some track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 04:28 PM) Rock, That Ermann guy was involved in the MD story break, so at least he has some track record. Thats what I saw too. UVA and GT make sense for what they are trying to do which is expand markets and add academic value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 3 invites makes sense too, it leaves 1 invite for schools named Duke, ND or other to take 18. If the Big10 goes to 10 game IC, with 9 team divisions. Youd have 8 games in division and 2 games against other division. That would ensure that everyone plays at least 1 time every 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Fun fact: Iowa State would have been fourth in the ACC in attendance. Doesn't say as much about ISU as I think it does about the ACC. Texas 100,884 Oklahoma 85,243 Clemson 79,429 Florida State 75,601 Virginia Tech 65,632 Texas Tech 57,209 Oklahoma State 56,557 West Virginia 55,916 Iowa State 55,274 NC State 54,106 North Carolina 50,286 Kansas State 50,278 Louisville 49,991 Miami 47,719 Virginia 46,650 TCU 46,047 Georgia Tech 43,955 Pittsburgh 41,494 Kansas 41,329 Baylor 41,194 Syracuse 37,953 Boston College 37,020 Maryland 36,023 Wake Forest 28.912 Duke 28,170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 04:39 PM) 3 invites makes sense too, it leaves 1 invite for schools named Duke, ND or other to take 18. If the Big10 goes to 10 game IC, with 9 team divisions. Youd have 8 games in division and 2 games against other division. That would ensure that everyone plays at least 1 time every 5 years. That actually makes alot more sense now that you list it out like that. Add in the high profile OOC games that they are trying to schedule (2 per year) and it starts to look like reality. Edited February 19, 2013 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 04:45 PM) That actually makes alot more sense now that you list it out like that. Add in the high profile OOC games that they are trying to schedule (2 per year) and it starts to look like reality. Gotta wonder where the B1G ultimately stops. At a certain amount of teams or where the money doesn't keep growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 04:56 PM) Gotta wonder where the B1G ultimately stops. At a certain amount of teams or where the money doesn't keep growing. There are 4 potential stops. 14, 16, 18 and 20. 20 is an interesting number for the Big 10. You then have 2 10 team divisions. This could create an "Old 10" division and a "New 10" division. There would be some balance because youd have Nebraska/PSU + new friends to counterbalance Michigan/OSU + old friends. The other bonus of this is that the "old 10" play every year all the time. They then get 1 fun game against a "new 10" so their fans wont be b****ing about never playing their old rivals. The new guys will get a chance to create new rivals. The obvious problem is Nebraska is on the wrong side of the country, but oh well its 1 outlier. I personally believe that the number is going to be 16, unless they can get 2 other schools they really want. After that it gets too big, and unless you go to 20, you are going to end up with some really unhappy fanbases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 05:02 PM) There are 4 potential stops. 14, 16, 18 and 20. 20 is an interesting number for the Big 10. You then have 2 10 team divisions. This could create an "Old 10" division and a "New 10" division. There would be some balance because youd have Nebraska/PSU + new friends to counterbalance Michigan/OSU + old friends. The other bonus of this is that the "old 10" play every year all the time. They then get 1 fun game against a "new 10" so their fans wont be b****ing about never playing their old rivals. The new guys will get a chance to create new rivals. The obvious problem is Nebraska is on the wrong side of the country, but oh well its 1 outlier. I personally believe that the number is going to be 16, unless they can get 2 other schools they really want. After that it gets too big, and unless you go to 20, you are going to end up with some really unhappy fanbases. As of next year Michigan and OSU will be in the same division, I just wonder about the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I wouldn't mind seeing four divisions of 4. Something like: 1- Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois 2- Wisconsin, NU, Purdue, MSU 3- Michigan, OSU, Indiana, Uva 4- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, UNC Not sure how the scheduling would work. Maybe 8 games, play everyone in your division once, and then play another division, rotated by year (ie a plays b year one, a plays c year 3). Have game 8 scheduled home games for two divisions each year, and they match up against another opponent with a road game. Division winners could play each other, acting as a conference semi of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 05:16 PM) As of next year Michigan and OSU will be in the same division, I just wonder about the other one. Yeah 1 division will always be considered stronger and its whatever division OSU is in. Wisconsin basically picked the perfect time to go to 3 Rose Bowls, because they get to move to the perceived weaker division. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 05:19 PM) I wouldn't mind seeing four divisions of 4. Something like: 1- Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois 2- Wisconsin, NU, Purdue, MSU 3- Michigan, OSU, Indiana, Uva 4- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, UNC Not sure how the scheduling would work. Maybe 8 games, play everyone in your division once, and then play another division, rotated by year (ie a plays b year one, a plays c year 3). Have game 8 scheduled home games for two divisions each year, and they match up against another opponent with a road game. Division winners could play each other, acting as a conference semi of sorts. I really dont like the pod system. And if there was going to be a pod system, I would expect that Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska would be in the same pod. It wouldnt make much sense to move Illinois to that group. But I really dislike pod system, I just want 2 divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) Yeah 1 division will always be considered stronger and its whatever division OSU is in. Wisconsin basically picked the perfect time to go to 3 Rose Bowls, because they get to move to the perceived weaker division. I really dont like the pod system. And if there was going to be a pod system, I would expect that Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska would be in the same pod. It wouldnt make much sense to move Illinois to that group. But I really dislike pod system, I just want 2 divisions. I think they are fairly set on having 2 big divisions with the big title game at the end. They want to be like the SEC with a larger recruiting area and actual academics. To your unbalanced division comment, I think there are ups and downs and whatnot, but I still believe for whatever reason they want Texas or Oklahoma or both to add to that "west" division. In theory that evens things out quite a bit. Edited February 19, 2013 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Honestly, all the Indiana alum in this group cares about is the Oaken bucket game. We're going to get slaughtered for the rest of the season anyway, but you can't take away that one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 05:28 PM) Honestly, all the Indiana alum in this group cares about is basketball Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1472519 FSU lost $500k playing in the ACC Championship game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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