Marty is just trolling again. Dan Berstein brought up this concept of teams dumping bad contracts and sending along prospects as bait. He was also mentioning salary caps and other things thinking MLB is the NBA. Teams don't give up top prospects unless they are desperate. Teams also get an additional $25 million to play with starting this offseason. There is not one example of a team giving up a top prospect for taking on a bad contract.

 

Then BJ Upton is mentioned. He is owed $60 million the next 4 years. What prospect, even if the Braves were so desperate to get rid of Upton, do they have that is worth that price?

 

 

It isn't going to happen. The board panned the thought, Marty decided to bring it back for arguments. He is covering his bases though. He did mention a couple of months ago, the "heavy lifting" of a rebuild was done. He also mentioned if a rebuild was done "correctly" it could be accomplished in 2 years. Now he is saying 2016. No matter what happens, he will tell everyone he was the first to tell you what was going to happen.

 

Just read his posts for comedy.

 

Dick Allen I didn't expect any different from you. You have shown zero ability to think outside the box. Keep loving that Blue Jays rebuild fella ROFL.

See 2012 Cleveland Indians.

 

Now its the Indians rebuild you are trumpeting. Good old after-the-fact Dick Allen strikes again.

Dick Allen I didn't expect any different from you. You have shown zero ability to think outside the box. Keep loving that Blue Jays rebuild fella ROFL.

Not a bad idea, but they had a ton of injuries. BJ Upton.

 

Marty is ridiculous. But I won't take the bait and fight you anymore on this. The others all see what you are doing.

 

BTW, you aren't thinking outside the box. You stole this from Dan Bernstein.

Now its the Indians rebuild you are trumpeting. Good old after-the-fact Dick Allen strikes again.

Trolling, trolling, trolling

Marty is trolling

Rawhide.

 

 

Josh Hamilton, Andre Eithier, now BJ Upton.

 

Marty couldn't GM a lemonade stand.

Not a bad idea, but they had a ton of injuries. BJ Upton.

 

Marty is ridiculous. But I won't take the bait and fight you anymore on this. The others all see what you are doing.

BTW, you aren't thinking outside the box. You stole this from Dan Bernstein.

 

It's important for you to have safety in numbers, be part of a pack. Sad really. I stole an idea from Dan Bernstein, omg. First prove it, second who gives on damn?

 

Now its the Indians rebuild you are trumpeting. Good old after-the-fact Dick Allen strikes again.

Just showing you an example of something you said doesn't happen.

It's important for you to have safety in numbers, be part of a pack. Sad really. I stole an idea from Dan Bernstein, omg. First prove it, second who gives on damn?

The thread is on this board from months ago. That's the proof. And if no one should give a damn, why don't you just admit you are bringing up old threads because you want to argue and bait?

Just showing you an example of something you said doesn't happen.

 

Dick Allen you are a follower. The Indians are your plan now, I love it.

Now its the Indians rebuild you are trumpeting. Good old after-the-fact Dick Allen strikes again.

 

No one has a clue how free agents will perform in the offseason. See Adam Dunn. Few thought the 2005 Sox would place better than 3rd.

The problem is this team itself. How do you go from losing 100 games to contending buying free agents.

 

Doing what the Indians did last year. They added Bourn, Swisher, Raburn, Aviles, Stubbs, Gomes, and Giambi to a 94 loss team and now they're in the wild card hunt.

 

Looks like I was a little to slow with that response.

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No one has a clue how free agents will perform in the offseason. See Adam Dunn. Few thought the 2005 Sox would place better than 3rd.

 

Absolutely, Dick Allen just likes to cast stones.

Absolutely, Dick Allen just likes to cast stones.

 

I believe what kite was saying is every "model" we go after will be "after the fact".

The Indians plan is not the one I want followed, but too each their own.

I believe what kite was saying is every "model" we go after will be "after the fact".

 

Any thinking fan wants to stay as far away from what the Indians have done as possible.

I think we should move Beckham at this point. At this point, I don't believe there is anything Semien can't do there except maybe the defense and that's considering the learning curve Semien would have.

 

We need to get younger so Semien at 2B and picking up a young position player for CF/LF/3B could really help along with Avisail Garcia in RF.

Replacing the 26 year old 2b isn't exactly what most people mean when they say "We need to get younger".

 

Usually you say that about guys in their 30's who are past their prime, not guys still before their prime years.

The Indians plan is not the one I want followed, but too each their own.

We know you don't want it followed, you want the team to keep losing.

The Indians plan is not the one I want followed, but too each their own.

 

Welp, you asked how a 100 loss team(94 might as well be 100) can contend by signing Free agents and we answered.

 

Whether you like it or not it obviously can be done, and I don't think we need to add as much as they did to get it done due to our pitching.

Welp, you asked how a 100 loss team(94 might as well be 100) can contend by signing Free agents and we answered.

 

Whether you like it or not it obviously can be done, and I don't think we need to add as much as they did to get it done due to our pitching.

We're actually even underperforming our run differential somewhat. What we really need as much as anything is to fix this team's mental state/focus. Their level of focus on the field is embarrassing. That might mean replacing some of the players, but it absolutely should fall on the coaching staff.

We know you don't want it followed, you want the team to keep losing.

 

I'm a sart fan Balta, you are too even though we have our major disagreements.

Any thinking fan wants to stay as far away from what the Indians have done as possible.

 

lol huh??? "Thinking fans" don't wanna go from a 94 loss team to a potential wild card team?

Welp, you asked how a 100 loss team(94 might as well be 100) can contend by signing Free agents and we answered.

 

Whether you like it or not it obviously can be done, and I don't think we need to add as much as they did to get it done due to our pitching.

 

High risk/low reward strategy is not the way to respond to this miserable season.

High risk/low reward strategy is not the way to respond to this miserable season.

"Pennant race" = low reward in marty's world.

lol huh??? "Thinking fans" don't wanna go from a 94 loss team to a potential wild card team?

 

At what price? This run certainly hasn't re-energized their fan base either.

"Pennant race" = low reward in marty's world.

 

You don't build your team with the goal of being in the pennant race which is what I believe the Indians have done.

At what price? This run certainly hasn't re-energized their fan base either.

Your plan to lose for years so that you can tell everyone how terrible the team is probably won't do a very good job of that either.