October 23, 201312 yr http://www.bloomberg.com/infographics/2013...eam-values.html That's right about what I would have guessed for the Sox. Only real surprises to me were to see St Louis that low and Baltimore that high.
October 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 01:00 PM) considering what the group that bought it for paid for it, that is INSANE!!!! 4800% return on investment isn't bad, is it?
October 23, 201312 yr And we have fans talking about keeping payroll down??? Spend, spend, spend. We're all being sold a bill of goods. The Sox franchise is a GOLDMINE. Give us a winner, White Sox. Keep spending on players until you get the right combination PLEASE. Addendum: We still have the right to blast the players who fail when given zillions of dollars like Dunn and Pujols, etc. Edited October 23, 201312 yr by greg775
October 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 02:20 PM) And we have fans talking about keeping payroll down??? Spend, spend, spend. We're all being sold a bill of goods. The Sox franchise is a GOLDMINE. Give us a winner, White Sox. Keep spending on players until you get the right combination PLEASE. Addendum: We still have the right to blast the players who fail when given zillions of dollars like Dunn and Pujols, etc. Greg, there's not a whole lot available that is worth that kind of money. And then you say "spend all this money" while then saying "well we get to boo them too." It's not like Dunn or Pujols aren't trying, but getting injured and older is apart of the game, and they will begin to struggle. I will always remember that you called for them to sign these "bums."
October 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 02:20 PM) And we have fans talking about keeping payroll down??? Spend, spend, spend. We're all being sold a bill of goods. The Sox franchise is a GOLDMINE. Give us a winner, White Sox. Keep spending on players until you get the right combination PLEASE. Addendum: We still have the right to blast the players who fail when given zillions of dollars like Dunn and Pujols, etc. 5th post in the thread. I was wondering what took so long for this post to happen, though I had a feeling it would be a different poster.
October 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 02:41 PM) 5th post in the thread. I was wondering what took so long for this post to happen, though I had a feeling it would be a different poster. So I will explain, total franchise value does not equal spending.....oh forget it. Jerry is a cheap ass mutherf***er who should sell the team to someone with deep pockets let's say hypothetically to a group that owns something like Ameritrade. They can leverage the s*** of the organization and then spend millions on players and infrastructure with the annual cash-flow that comes into the team from the ticket sales and tv money. Yes selling the team would be the answer. When $75M annually is used to pay down the debt used to pay for the team, the cash cow moves out to pasture to hang with Ronny Woo Woo rather quickly under the guise of "rebuilding" and the genius that is Theodore Epstein and his merry band of baseball savants.
October 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) 4800% return on investment isn't bad, is it? You mean to tell me I won't get the same kind of return on my mutual funds investments?
October 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 01:00 PM) considering what the group that bought it for paid for it, that is INSANE!!!! Funny thing is, many of these same people were basically handed the Bulls with Michael Jordan on the roster. They had to assume some debt, and that was it. Lee Stern was talking about it last year. JR offered him a much of the Bulls as he wanted. He passed. He is haunted to this day about that decision.
October 23, 201312 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 03:03 PM) You mean to tell me I won't get the same kind of return on my mutual funds investments? S&P is up 20% year-to-date so you're closing in.
October 24, 201312 yr QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 04:37 PM) S&P is up 20% year-to-date so you're closing in. My dad bought stock in a company that sells marijuana paraphernalia, and it's tripled since the summer. It jumps up every time another state or city legalizes pot.
October 24, 201312 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 02:29 PM) Greg, there's not a whole lot available that is worth that kind of money. And then you say "spend all this money" while then saying "well we get to boo them too." It's not like Dunn or Pujols aren't trying, but getting injured and older is apart of the game, and they will begin to struggle. I will always remember that you called for them to sign these "bums." You don't get it wite. If we don't overpay free agents who will underperform, who will Greg b**** about?
October 24, 201312 yr Author QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 23, 2013 -> 07:38 PM) You don't get it wite. If we don't overpay free agents who will underperform, who will Greg b**** about? Ventura? No funny anecdotes or quips, getting too much rope from the fanbase as a former Sox favorite, etc. Pretty much every starter with the exception of Konerko (in that, he and Marty have something in common). Edited October 24, 201312 yr by caulfield12
October 24, 201312 yr Imagine its value when it makes the playoffs two years in a row or God forbid three times in four. This outfit is an absolute sleeping giant.
October 25, 201312 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 24, 2013 -> 01:39 AM) Ventura? No funny anecdotes or quips, getting too much rope from the fanbase as a former Sox favorite, etc. Pretty much every starter with the exception of Konerko (in that, he and Marty have something in common). I don't get on Robin. To be fair, though, here are last year's starters who deserved to be criticized/blasted IMO: Kepp, Lexi, Beckham, Paulie (if he wasn't hurt), Flowers, DeAza, Viciedo, Rios, Dunn. Does everybody agree on that? All of them were that bad or lazy or mentally deficient at times.
October 30, 201312 yr Notice the Sox are ranked 24th in attendance, but 2nd in parking revenue!! Some places don't even charge for parking. When I went to Tampa to see the sox they gave us free parking for having 4 adults in our car. Bottom line the sox should give discount for a full car!! It would add attendance & concession money.
October 30, 201312 yr Notice the Sox are ranked 24th in attendance, but 2nd in parking revenue!! Some places don't even charge for parking. When I went to Tampa to see the sox they gave us free parking for having 4 adults in our car. Bottom line the sox should give discount for a full car!! It would add attendance & concession money. Except that $20 spent on parking is more profit for the Sox than $10 spent on parking and $10 spent on food, so there is no real incentive for the Sox to give parking discounts.
October 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 01:57 PM) Except that $20 spent on parking is more profit for the Sox than $10 spent on parking and $10 spent on food, so there is no real incentive for the Sox to give parking discounts. Very true. You have to remember that a good chunk of any concession money goes to the concession company. The parking is pure profit.
October 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 02:07 PM) Very true. You have to remember that a good chunk of any concession money goes to the concession company. The parking is pure profit. Ah... It's a profit deal.
October 30, 201312 yr QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 03:31 PM) Ah... It's a profit deal. 100% true.
October 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 02:07 PM) Very true. You have to remember that a good chunk of any concession money goes to the concession company. The parking is pure profit. That's part of the reason why concessions and beer are so expensive. So many people have their hands in it financially, it needs to cost more so everyone can make money.
October 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (soxfan-kwman @ Oct 30, 2013 -> 01:53 PM) Notice the Sox are ranked 24th in attendance, but 2nd in parking revenue!! Some places don't even charge for parking. When I went to Tampa to see the sox they gave us free parking for having 4 adults in our car. Bottom line the sox should give discount for a full car!! It would add attendance & concession money. They LOWERED parking prices in 2013. $20 mon-sat, and $10 Sunday. It was $25 mon-fri, and $23 sat-sun.
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