brian310 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Now that either De Aza or Viciedo are going to be possibly dealt, do you guys think we can get a respectable deal for Viciedo from Seattle who could use an outfield power bat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Cano? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:07 PM) Now that either De Aza or Viciedo are going to be possibly dealt, do you guys think we can get a respectable deal for Viciedo from Seattle who could use an outfield power bat? Timely post. If you like Ackley (shifting to 3B for the Sox) that's recently been proposed by Jack Z. I believe Rick countered with Franklin. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The idea of Ackley at 3rd base is not good, IMO. If you're getting Ackley, you might as well trade Beckham as Gillaspie provides better offense than Ackley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian310 Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:14 PM) Timely post. If you like Ackley (shifting to 3B for the Sox) that's recently been proposed by Jack Z. I believe Rick countered with Franklin. Stay tuned. Haha where did you see this at? And not a fan of Ackley really. Rather see Franklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Ackley is not a good baseball player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:17 PM) The idea of Ackley at 3rd base is not good, IMO. If you're getting Ackley, you might as well trade Beckham as Gillaspie provides better offense than Ackley. Agreed. I'm not a fan of it either. Ackley is Seattle's Beckham. Just thought it was an interesting nugget I heard. Sounds like kind of of a mixed camp at 3B but it's really hot focus for the F.O. They are really active in talks so far down at the meetings. Seems like more than the past few years. I wouldn't be suprised if they make a few more deals this week. 3B is the focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:24 PM) Agreed. I'm not a fan of it either. Ackley is Seattle's Beckham. Just thought it was an interesting nugget I heard. Sounds like kind of of a mixed camp at 3B but it's really hot focus for the F.O. They are really active in talks so far down at the meetings. Seems like more than the past few years. I wouldn't be suprised if they make a few more deals this week. 3B is the focus. I always appreciate when you post Bucket. Great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:24 PM) Agreed. I'm not a fan of it either. Ackley is Seattle's Beckham. Just thought it was an interesting nugget I heard. Sounds like kind of of a mixed camp at 3B but it's really hot focus for the F.O. They are really active in talks so far down at the meetings. Seems like more than the past few years. I wouldn't be suprised if they make a few more deals this week. 3B is the focus. Do you think they have a preference for which of Viciedo/ADA stays, all things being equal? Of course, things won't be equal due to the trade market, but I can't decide which they'd rather see. Still a whole hell of a lot of potential value in 24-year-old Dayan, but more certainty in ADA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 They'd prefer to keep DV over ADA as he's younger and an org guy with potentially more upside. Sounds like ADA has a broader market since he's more productive for contenders. I wouldn't expect a huge return but I do think he'll be dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 05:38 PM) They'd prefer to keep DV over ADA as he's younger and an org guy with potentially more upside. Sounds like ADA has a broader market since he's more productive for contenders. I wouldn't expect a huge return but I do think he'll be dealt. Good enough. This is a two year project anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'd say hold onto Viciedo at least another year. If he hits a few more homers than he did in 2012, apparently he could net a haul like Trumbo did. Seriously what is Arizona thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'd guess the mariners would have more interest in Viciedo, they are starved for power. Not sure who I'd prefer between Franklin and Ackley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 08:00 PM) I'd guess the mariners would have more interest in Viciedo, they are starved for power. I'd love it if we could send them Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:02 PM) I'd love it if we could send them Dunn. Count me in. I agree in your previous post about Viciedo's value going up with a good 14 season. Just unsure of the interest in ADA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'd still like to move Dayan back to 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What about De Aza or Viciedo plus prospects for Seager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) I'd guess the mariners would have more interest in Viciedo, they are starved for power. Not sure who I'd prefer between Franklin and Ackley. Highly assumed presumption - based on the trade of Eaton... Even if Seattle gave in with Franklin - that offers likely off the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:16 PM) What about De Aza or Viciedo plus prospects for Seager? I wouldn't mind Seager one bit. I really like Murphy but Seager is younger and under control for a few more years than Murphy. Can't go wrong either way in my eyes. ADA or Viciedo plus bullpen arm for Seager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:15 PM) I'd still like to move Dayan back to 3B. Forget UZR or DRS or Tango numbers...let's use good old fielding percentage, shall we? Viciedo, in his one full season at the position in 2009, had an .894 fielding percentage. It improved slightly the next year, but was down to .897 in his brief time there in the majors. He is an absolutely brutal defensive 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 You guys, the Mariners aren't trading Seager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Why in the world would they trade Seager? I'd guess you're looking at a Q plus ADA package to get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:21 PM) Highly assumed presumption - based on the trade of Eaton... Even if Seattle gave in with Franklin - that offers likely off the table. Eh, I'm just throwing s*** out there since the Sox and mariners have holes they could help each other fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:26 PM) You guys, the Mariners aren't trading Seager. Don't be pissing in my cheerios man. Not cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:28 PM) Don't be pissing in my cheerios man. Not cool. Ha just being reasonable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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