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8/7 at KC Royals

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And Danks has totally lost it. Could see this coming last inning.

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Keeps giving up these hits with 2 strikes.

Either melky was positioned terribly or he didn't hustle to get to it. Took 2 eons to get to that ball

What freaking game is Robin and Cooper watching? Ridiculously long leash here to just about seal this game.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 08:56 PM)
Either melky was positioned terribly or he didn't hustle to get to it. Took 2 eons to get to that ball

 

Lately our outfield has been playing off the lines a lot. Not sure why

Most managers are ready when a pitcher goes thru the lineup a third time. Robin likes to concede games. This will prolly be 8-1 before it's over knowing Robbie.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 01:54 AM)
I don't care how this game turns out, etc., but it is obvious Danks is a f***ing good pitcher. I don't care what anybody tells me contrary to that. Anybody who can't admit this ... I don't know what else to say.

 

He still massively sucks and his contract extensions is one of the worst deals in Sox history.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 09:56 PM)
What freaking game is Robin and Cooper watching? Ridiculously long leash here to just about seal this game.

If you're expecting more than a quality start from Danks you're likely to be disappointed a lot of times.

 

That said, they pulled Rodon for less than this.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 02:56 AM)
What freaking game is Robin and Cooper watching? Ridiculously long leash here to just about seal this game.

Robin's not a big league manager candidate. He got lucky in getting that job. He's overmatched. No doubt about that.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 02:58 AM)
He still massively sucks and his contract extensions is one of the worst deals in Sox history.

LOL. You guys slay me. John Danks can pitch.

Did you really think we were gonna win a game this series? Danks did fine.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 08:32 PM)
All you have to do is pitch him low and away and he won't do any harm.

 

To be fair, that's like 95% of hitters under age 35. They want something straight, something to turn on, esp. in hitter's counts. As a pitcher, what you want is to do the exact opposite in order to disrupt their timing, get them off-balance and force to re-route hands.

 

 

Incidentally ,that's why unlike Don Cooper's or Hawk's "pitch inside" old school BS,,,, "away-awayer-awayest, slow-slower-slowest" has always been such an effective approach, esp. against the dumber hitters, as well as against those batters who don't like to study advance scouting reports or to "think along" the opposing pitchers.

 

And say what you will about the Sox as an organization historically, it has always been

 

a. dumb as hell

b. light on top-notch advance scouting.

 

Salvador Perez pitch calling that seems to bedevil the Sox is merely common sense baseball 101 in practice.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 01:59 AM)
LOL. You guys slay me. John Danks can pitch.

 

Yep, like one of the worst pitchers in baseball for 3 straight years, I believe.

QUOTE (L. Ron Paultard @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 01:59 AM)
Salvador Perez pitch calling that seems to bedevil the Sox is merely common sense baseball 101 in practice.

 

Similar pitch calling to what AJP/Mauer used to do vs the Sox.

Danks is either missing high or bounces the ball

Danks got extremely lucky with that pitch. High fastball and he grounds out

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 07:31 PM)
Awful relay throw home by Sanchez. His defense has gotten worse as his offense has improved.

Sanchez or Alexi making that high throw home?

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 03:03 AM)
Sanchez or Alexi making that high throw home?

 

Sanchez

Three runs, six innings against the best team in baseball ... not a bad start by Danks in spite of Robin. Let's see how Shark does in this woebegone series.

greg, from 2013-2015, Danks is 112th out of 120 in terms of qualified pitchers in ERA. In terms of xFIP, he's 117th out of 120.

 

Translation = he's been awful

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 09:01 PM)
Similar pitch calling to what AJP/Mauer used to do vs the Sox.

 

You are not wrong there Fathom, haha.

 

OTOH, the ultra-mega-hyper coaching geniuses on the SouthSide like to be so "cute" as to outsmart the conventional wisdom - and instead prefer to pump get me over fastball after fastball into the wheel-house of the likes of Ryan Rayburn, Delmon Young, Lorenzo Cain, Escobar, Wilson Betemit

 

and wonder why the hell are so many 130 MPH rockets putting dents into LF wall over and over and over again.

 

derr derpity McDerp basically

Edited by L. Ron Paultard

Did Alexei swing at ball 4 when he lined out to Infante?

 

Then Sanchez grounds into a DP.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 08:58 PM)
He still massively sucks and his contract extensions is one of the worst deals in Sox history.

 

You also have to remember that Don Cooper boys have this tendency of going from Zero-to-Meltdown in 3 seconds flat. As it were.

 

In other words, post-2005 Sox starters don't like to

 

a. feel any kind of expectations or real heat

b. throw out of the stretch

c. face opposing line-ups 3rd or 4th time thru

 

 

From Javy Vazquez, to Pink Floyd, to Peavy, to Quintana, Danks, Samardjjjaaaa (to even gasp! the great unhittable Chris Sale at times see Trout game last year!)

 

 

To pitch out of the stretch, you need to be stronger mentally and/or mechanically rather than just blow opposing hitters away with pure velocity or movement. And that's where actual coaching and preparation come into play. Or the lack thereof.

Edited by L. Ron Paultard

Going into last Thursday, the Sox and Cubs were both 2.5 games out of the 2nd wild card. If the Sox go on to lose tonight, the Cubs will have made up 4 games on that total while the Sox lost 3.5 on that total. Needless to say, the last week has sucked.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2015 -> 08:18 PM)
Going into last Thursday, the Sox and Cubs were both 2.5 games out of the 2nd wild card. If the Sox go on to lose tonight, the Cubs will have made up 4 games on that total while the Sox lost 3.5 on that total. Needless to say, the last week has sucked.

This season has flat out sucked. I'm just ready to get it over with and move on to the offseason. Hope Robin moves on and we get a bat in the offseason and make a few more moves and get this team ready for '16.

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