Boy it sure would be nice for Mr. Kavanaugh if the GOP held a real investigation so that his name could be cleared. Oh well.

1 minute ago, Steve9347 said:

Ha! You expect that to matter? He can't coach his kids in volleyball anymore so they have to make him a Supreme Court Justice.

Steve you're just a cynical SOB.  These hearings are not good for him in the slightest.

Her recollection of Mark Judge working at a grocery store also matches with his own autobiographical work that describes his time working as a bag boy at a local grocery store.

Will any SC decision (involving Kavanaugh and Thomas) about women’s rights the next 30-40 years be taken as anything besides an act of war on women/privacy?

If Garland is blocked and now this clown goes through, it’s going to be a 50-60 seat gain in the House and a Senate takeover in November.  Best case scenario for Trump is to survive to 2020 but then decide not to risk losing and withdraw from politics, essentially declaring Mission Accomplished.

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1 minute ago, pettie4sox said:

Steve you're just a cynical SOB.  These hearings are not good for him in the slightest.

I don't think the GOP senators will care 

1 minute ago, pettie4sox said:

Steve you're just a cynical SOB.  These hearings are not good for him in the slightest.

They are abysmal for him and the GOP.

Will it matter? Remains to be seen.

Just now, pettie4sox said:

Steve you're just a cynical SOB.  These hearings are not good for him in the slightest.

It isn't, but  it doesn't mean the senators that want to confirm him really care.

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

Will any SC decision (involving Kavanaugh and Thomas) about women’s rights the next 30-40 years be taken as anything besides an act of war on women/privacy?

If Garland is blocked and this clown goes through, it’s going to be a 50-60 seat gain in the House and a Senate takeover in November.  Best case scenario for Trump is to survive to 2020 but then decide not to risk losing and withdraw from politics, essentially declaring Mission Accomplished.

Yep, Trump has a very razor thin chance of not turning on the fence people into full blown democrats.  Dump Kavanaugh, he's a virus that will destroy the GOP.

Just now, pettie4sox said:

Yep, Trump has a very razor thin chance of not turning on the fence people into full blown democrats.  Dump Kavanaugh, he's a virus that will destroy the GOP.

Again, I was watching something after I came home from the Sox game last night, and the reporter said he talked to many GOP people, and according to them, having Kavanaugh seated on the SCOTUS, would be well worth losing both the House and the Senate.

3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

It isn't, but  it doesn't mean the senators that want to confirm him really care.

Murkowski and Collins will flip.  They have no choice.

4 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

Her recollection of Mark Judge working at a grocery store also matches with his own autobiographical work that describes his time working as a bag boy at a local grocery store.

One of the Democrats better have poured through these to point out discrepancies.

Just now, Tony said:

Settle down, Brett. 

IT'S AN OUTRAGEEEEEEE!

41 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

His anger and indignation seems to be coming from a sense of entitlement, that he's owed this Supreme Court seat, that it's rightfully his.

He sounds like he feels even having to be here is beneath him. How dare he ever be questioned or denied what he wants and believes is due to him.

1 minute ago, pettie4sox said:

Murkowski and Collins will flip.  They have no choice.

Collins choice is lose in the general in 2020 if she votes yes or face a serious and probably successful primary if she votes no.

1 minute ago, pettie4sox said:

Murkowski and Collins will flip.  They have no choice.

Normally, I would agree with you, but I saw an interview with Collins, and there was something about it where she seemed bought off. She did say he wouldn't overturn Roe v Wade, which I find hysterically naive. But perhaps now she has no choice. That's the hope.

From what I've seen, I would bet on Kavanaugh not making it at this point. All they need is one of Collins, Murkowski and/or Flake to flip, and I just don't believe they will all hold with this guy. Only takes one. Or heck some other one we aren't even discussing yet could come out of the woodwork.

My prediction (which guarantees this won't happen lol) is he makes it through committee, one or two of the triad says publicly they won't vote for him and then they have to decide to vote or not. Probably they vote anyway to get everyone on record, he fails, and Trump has to start all over again.

By the way, if the Trump administration has half a brain cell among them, they've already got their next candidate in vetting or vetted and ready to be announced whenever it's time. Try to get things going and get it in before the lame duck session.

 

6 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said:

From what I've seen, I would bet on Kavanaugh not making it at this point. All they need is one of Collins, Murkowski and/or Flake to flip, and I just don't believe they will all hold with this guy. Only takes one. Or heck some other one we aren't even discussing yet could come out of the woodwork.

My prediction (which guarantees this won't happen lol) is he makes it through committee, one or two of the triad says publicly they won't vote for him and then they have to decide to vote or not. Probably they vote anyway to get everyone on record, he fails, and Trump has to start all over again.

2 votes, no?  Senate is 51-49 at the moment, and Pence breaks a 50-50 deadlock.

8 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said:

From what I've seen, I would bet on Kavanaugh not making it at this point. All they need is one of Collins, Murkowski and/or Flake to flip, and I just don't believe they will all hold with this guy. Only takes one. Or heck some other one we aren't even discussing yet could come out of the woodwork.

My prediction (which guarantees this won't happen lol) is he makes it through committee, one or two of the triad says publicly they won't vote for him and then they have to decide to vote or not. Probably they vote anyway to get everyone on record, he fails, and Trump has to start all over again.

They need two, 50 + Pence gets him in right? Murkowski *seems* like a no right now. Don't trust Collins. Gotta figure Flake is a yes.

Don't know what to expect. Either her performance this morning and Kavanaugh's shitshow this afternoon have rankled enough GOP that it's clear McConnell doesn't have nearly enough votes, or they're sitting on 48 or 49 and he's going to bring it to a floor vote regardless of judiciary, jam his caucus and force them to play their cards a la ACA repeal.

 

4 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

They need two, 50 + Pence gets him in right? Murkowski *seems* like a no right now. Don't trust Collins. Gotta figure Flake is a yes.

Don't know what to expect. Either her performance this morning and Kavanaugh's shitshow this afternoon have rankled enough GOP that it's clear McConnell doesn't have nearly enough votes, or they're sitting on 48 or 49 and he's going to bring it to a floor vote regardless of judiciary, jam his caucus and force them to play their cards a la ACA repeal.

You know, I think I was assuming McCain's seat was still open. Forgot they put Kyl in there. So I was thinking it was effectively 50-49 party split. Sorry.

2 of 3 (or really just 2 period) is harder, but this is not one of those that's predictable. I'd call it even money right now and would not bet either way.

This whole thing is bananas.

Kavanaugh refusing to answer questions 

Leahy: Are you the person referenced in Mark Judge's book?

Kavanaugh: I don't know, you'd have to ask him

Leahy: I'd like to.

 

 

what a tremendous own-goal there

1 minute ago, whitesoxfan99 said:

Kavanaugh refusing to answer questions 

He won't answer a single question of theirs. His tactic is to get angry and shout at them for daring to even question him.

3 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said:

You know, I think I was assuming McCain's seat was still open. Forgot they put Kyl in there. So I was thinking it was effectively 50-49 party split. Sorry.

2 of 3 (or really just 2 period) is harder, but this is not one of those that's predictable. I'd call it even money right now and would not bet either way.

This whole thing is bananas.

Love that the fate of our constitutional structure for the next 30-40 years hangs in the balance of this