May 9, 20169 yr These all-city teams get put together each year. Do we want to speculate a little early? Preseason the joke was that the all-city team would be all Cubs. I'm seeing us with six spots: LF: melky CF: fowler RF: eaton 3B: bryant SS: russell 2B: zobrist (tough luck for lawrie, career year type start for him) 1B: rizzo C: navarro (factoring in the great work with latos) SP: sale arrieta quintana lester lackey closer: robertson I'll go against the sabr perspective to put robertson in there. but latos cant go over lackey. every indication is that latos has been a beneficiary of outside forces, whereas lackey has been hurt by them. lester makes it but it should be noted he's been fortunate to be leaving so many on base avisail wins the DH battle as he is running unopposed (though last year his WAR lost when compared to 0.0, so this is progress) Alright tear me apart!!
May 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ May 9, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) These all-city teams get put together each year. Do we want to speculate a little early? Preseason the joke was that the all-city team would be all Cubs. I'm seeing us with six spots: LF: melky CF: fowler RF: eaton 3B: bryant SS: russell 2B: zobrist (tough luck for lawrie, career year type start for him) 1B: rizzo C: navarro (factoring in the great work with latos) SP: sale arrieta quintana lester lackey closer: robertson I'll go against the sabr perspective to put robertson in there. but latos cant go over lackey. every indication is that latos has been a beneficiary of outside forces, whereas lackey has been hurt by them. lester makes it but it should be noted he's been fortunate to be leaving so many on base avisail wins the DH battle as he is running unopposed (though last year his WAR lost when compared to 0.0, so this is progress) Alright tear me apart!! I'd put Hammel in there instead of Lackey if you're willing to put Fowler in front of Heyward.
May 9, 20169 yr Author QUOTE (chw42 @ May 9, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) I'd put Hammel in there instead of Lackey if you're willing to put Fowler in front of Heyward. maybe. what i found interesting was when league and ballpark factors are put in, hammel is far and away fifth of their five starters. yet the ERA is pristine. of all five, lackey is missing the most bats Edited May 9, 20169 yr by Jose Paniagua
May 9, 20169 yr Latos should be the fifth (NOW)...we're not going with what they're projected to be or what we expect them to be in July. You can make an argument for Hammel/Lackey as well. All good candidates. Second base probably goes to Lawrie for that same reason as well. Zobrist has been hot recently, but Lawrie's been better overall, is much younger and has better defensive range to boot. (Or you can make the argument Lawrie's been more important to the team's overall energy, athleticism and has contributed more percentage-wise to the Sox offense getting kick started.) You could say Ross or Navarro, but both are well short of the qualified number of at-bats.
May 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 9, 2016 -> 06:02 PM) Latos should be the fifth (NOW)...we're not going with what they're projected to be or what we expect them to be in July. You can make an argument for Hammel/Lackey as well. All good candidates. Second base probably goes to Lawrie for that same reason as well. Zobrist has been hot recently, but Lawrie's been better overall, is much younger and has better defensive range to boot. (Or you can make the argument Lawrie's been more important to the team's overall energy, athleticism and has contributed more percentage-wise to the Sox offense getting kick started.) You could say Ross or Navarro, but both are well short of the qualified number of at-bats. Good points caulfield. Yea it should be based on the here and now. Would be fun to update every month- maybe Rodon scrathes out another one of their starters
May 9, 20169 yr I love DRob, but Rondon has been better in every statistical measure you can think of except saves, which is obvious out of his control.
May 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 9, 2016 -> 06:25 PM) I love DRob, but Rondon has been better in every statistical measure you can think of except saves, which is obvious out of his control. And ERA
May 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ May 9, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) These all-city teams get put together each year. Do we want to speculate a little early? Preseason the joke was that the all-city team would be all Cubs. I'm seeing us with six spots: LF: melky CF: fowler RF: eaton 3B: bryant SS: russell 2B: zobrist (tough luck for lawrie, career year type start for him) 1B: rizzo C: navarro (factoring in the great work with latos) SP: sale arrieta quintana lester lackey closer: robertson I'll go against the sabr perspective to put robertson in there. but latos cant go over lackey. every indication is that latos has been a beneficiary of outside forces, whereas lackey has been hurt by them. lester makes it but it should be noted he's been fortunate to be leaving so many on base avisail wins the DH battle as he is running unopposed (though last year his WAR lost when compared to 0.0, so this is progress) Alright tear me apart!! I'd go Eaton RF Zobrist 2B Rizzo 1B Abreu DH Bryant LF Heyward CF Frazier 3B Russell SS Navarro C
May 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 9, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) I'd go Eaton RF Zobrist 2B Rizzo 1B Abreu DH Bryant LF Heyward CF Frazier 3B Russell SS Navarro C Mine is similar. Eaton RF Zobrist SS Rizzo 1B Abreu DH Bryant LF Heyward CF Frazier 3B Lawrie 2B Navarro C Got Zobrist and Lawrie both in, because Russell isn't that good yet.
May 10, 20169 yr When's the last time Zobrist played SS, lol? I actually think Lawrie could probably go out and play that position better than Ben, but the point is taken about not just giving Russell credit until it's due. And with his homer last night, and defensive play, Baez is actually worth more so far this season than Addison. Edited May 10, 20169 yr by caulfield12
May 10, 20169 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 9, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) I'd go Eaton RF Zobrist 2B Rizzo 1B Abreu DH Bryant LF Heyward CF Frazier 3B Russell SS Navarro C QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 9, 2016 -> 08:27 PM) Mine is similar. Eaton RF Zobrist SS Rizzo 1B Abreu DH Bryant LF Heyward CF Frazier 3B Lawrie 2B Navarro C Got Zobrist and Lawrie both in, because Russell isn't that good yet. There is no rhyme or reason to put Heyward over Fowler to this point this year.
May 11, 20169 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 9, 2016 -> 08:27 PM) Mine is similar. Eaton RF Zobrist SS Rizzo 1B Abreu DH Bryant LF Heyward CF Frazier 3B Lawrie 2B Navarro C Got Zobrist and Lawrie both in, because Russell isn't that good yet. I like this lineup, too. Obviously a little tweaking and assuming AL rues.
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