Reddy Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:22 AM) With Ozzie as manager we should all know the answer. Timo. actually you're right, but its worse than that. timo will close, but every 5 days he will ALSO start. fills in 2 holes at once! he's such a great utility guy like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:19 AM) I don't think it's because he's "jumping ship" though.. I think it's because he realizes that he's not going to be part of the furture there. Saying he "wants out" is different than "understanding how baseball works." If he understands how baseball works, he can still want to stay in Oakland but still accept the fact that he's got to go. It says he wants out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I think also one of the other things to take into account is what happens if Shingo gets his act together? That will only give the Sox a little more flexibility to do what they need and or want to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:22 AM) 4 man.. I'm not comfortable with that at all.. dont worry, a couple of beers will loosen you up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) Saying he "wants out" is different than "understanding how baseball works." If he understands how baseball works, he can still want to stay in Oakland but still accept the fact that he's got to go. It says he wants out. the quote from HIM says he understands how baseball works the quote from WHOEVER says he wants out... hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:22 AM) 4 man.. I'm not comfortable with that at all.. Buehrle would love that... he has said many a times how he would love to pitch in a 4 man rotation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:23 AM) I think also one of the other things to take into account is what happens if Shingo gets his act together? That will only give the Sox a little more flexibility to do what they need and or want to do... all it takes it throwing the breaking balls for strikes and hes got it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 (edited) Buehrle would love that... he has said many a times how he would love to pitch in a 4 man rotation... it wouldnt be too hard to do either... you'd just have to work it right with the off days for contreras basically Edited June 2, 2005 by Reddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) Saying he "wants out" is different than "understanding how baseball works." If he understands how baseball works, he can still want to stay in Oakland but still accept the fact that he's got to go. It says he wants out. Ok, ok, ok.... Agree to disagree.. Sheesh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:22 AM) Is it uncommon for good players to want out of bad teams? No, it's not. I'm just supporting what I said in the beginning because people jumped all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) I think also one of the other things to take into account is what happens if Shingo gets his act together? That will only give the Sox a little more flexibility to do what they need and or want to do... Big if, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:24 AM) all it takes it throwing the breaking balls for strikes and hes got it together. Exactly...Shingo also needs to get more than 1 inning a week as well to stay effective... I unlike a lot of others am not ready to give up on Shingo because he has sucked thus far...last year he showed he could pitch here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) No, it's not. I'm just supporting what I said in the beginning because people jumped all over it. Regardless, I hope he is fueling the movement to get him out of there, whatever brings him here is good for me. This guy would fit in so well its unbelieveable, he is a clubhouse guy, would work for us offensively and defensively and would allow us to unload double play konerko next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Reddy @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) the quote from HIM says he understands how baseball works the quote from WHOEVER says he wants out... hmmm I said earlier that it's probably both. I'm just pointing out that it says exactly what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) Regardless, I hope he is fueling the movement to get him out of there, whatever brings him here is good for me. This guy would fit in so well its unbelieveable, he is a clubhouse guy, would work for us offensively and defensively and would allow us to unload double play konerko next year. With as much as I hate Crede, I think you know that I'm also happy that he's urging to come here. = me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) No, it's not. I'm just supporting what I said in the beginning because people jumped all over it. If you were Chavez, would you rather sit back and collect 10 mil a year on a constantly rebuilding club(lets face it, Oakland is gonna have a rough couple of years ahead of them regardless if Chavez is traded or not.) or press for a trade to a competing team? To me, it doesnt seem like he wants to jump off a sinking ship as much as he wants to compete for something. It just happens that the sinking ship is facilitating the need to compete. Loyalty means nothing in the game anymore, im not going to start holding it against someone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:29 AM) With as much as I hate Crede, I think you know that I'm also happy that he's urging to come here. = me. Oh, i know. I know you will be smiling as much as I will if this goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 A few things: *The sox won't go to a 4 man rotation. This wouldn't be an option *I would think Oakland needs more help with its everyday lineup than its pitching. Anderson might be as valuable for them as BMac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:29 AM) If you were Chavez, would you rather sit back and collect 10 mil a year on a constantly rebuilding club(lets face it, Oakland is gonna have a rough couple of years ahead of them regardless if Chavez is traded or not.) or press for a trade to a competing team? To me, it doesnt seem like he wants to jump off a sinking ship as much as he wants to compete for something. It just happens that the sinking ship is facilitating the need to compete. Loyalty means nothing in the game anymore, im not going to start holding it against someone now. Once again, I'm not blaming Chavez for doing this. I was just defending what I said earlier because a few other people jumped on what I said. I want Chavez on this team a hell of a lot and I'm glad he wants to come here. I'm not holding anything against anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) A few things: *The sox won't go to a 4 man rotation. This wouldn't be an option *I would think Oakland needs more help with its everyday lineup than its pitching. Anderson might be as valuable for them as BMac Haha, maybe they're sending us Zito, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:36 AM) Once again, I'm not blaming Chavez for doing this. I was just defending what I said earlier because a few other people jumped on what I said. I want Chavez on this team a hell of a lot and I'm glad he wants to come here. I'm not holding anything against anyone. How do we have this 'he wants to come here'...this whole thing could be and probably is BS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 zito sucks dude... i dont want him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 10:36 AM) Once again, I'm not blaming Chavez for doing this. I was just defending what I said earlier because a few other people jumped on what I said. I want Chavez on this team a hell of a lot and I'm glad he wants to come here. I'm not holding anything against anyone. Im not trying to start a flame war with you. I was just commenting because the first thing you posted was "I dont think I like his attitude". I think his attitude is pretty normal in the MLB world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Well...SI has picked up on this.... Truth and Rumors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 i hate these rumors cuz then i get all excited and a couple days later you find out it was a bunch of BS damn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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