GoSox05 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Being that we are in good shape in the central should we be routing for the Twins or Indians for the wild card. I know it seems wierd, but who would you rather face the indians or Althletics or Yankees or Twins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 They couldn't face the Indians or the Twins the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceffa2000 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 See: http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37563 and cast your vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 This thread makes no sense. If the Twins or Indians win the WC that means will most likely either face the Angels or Red Sox/Yankees/Orioles in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 So what we are saying here is .... Go Yankees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I'm cheering for the Twins to lose every game until we clinch the division if we clinch the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 im saying any round. who would you rather face if it came to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Let me be the first to say that the A's are going to win the ALW. A 36-11 record since June 1st is damn near unbeatable in the game of baseball. So that means LAA, NYY, BOS, MIN, CLE, BAL are the likely WC's. Who here really believes the resurgent Yankees behind Johnson won't either win the ALE or the ALWC? I sure don't. With respect to BOS Schilling should figure it out in Aug to dominate Sep. Schilling + Clement is enough to drive them to the post season as well. LAA, BAL, CLE, & MIN will be sitting home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) Let me be the first to say that the A's are going to win the ALW. You're like the 50th person to say this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 You're like the 50th person to say this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I think the Angels will prevail. Oakland can't keep this pace up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I'll root for the Twins and Indians to lose the rest of their games this season. In no way is the division locked up yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Twins win, lead is 11 games. I seriously can't understand the belief here that the Sox have locked up a spot in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 07:51 PM) Twins win, lead is 11 games. I seriously can't understand the belief here that the Sox have locked up a spot in the division. Neither can I. Even worse, how can you ever pull for the Twins or the Indians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Sox Fan Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 They don't have anything locked up yet. There will be plenty of time to talk about playoff matchups when (if?) the time comes. And, I could never, ever root for the Twins. I have a serious dislike for that team, its stadium and the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 02:23 PM) I think the Angels will prevail. Oakland can't keep this pace up. I agree. There's no way the A's can keep playing .770 ball (using Jugg's numbers since June 1), and I think the Angels are a stronger team overall. The Angels have a stronger lineup (the A's are pretty much like us, only three guys over .290, and 2 of them aren't everyday players, and Crosby missed some games, meaning a smaller sample size), a deeper rotation, especially if Escobar gets back (the A's rotation is frontloaded, making them better built for the playoffs), and a similar bullpen (although I give the A's a slight edge thus far). Edited July 28, 2005 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 It's in the bag. Just look at the collapse years. 2004: Aug 12W, Sep 17W : 29 2003: Aug 16W, Sep 13W : 29 2002: Aug 14W, Sep 16W : 30 2001: Aug 17W, Sep 14W : 31 As you can see the avg is 30W. We still have 3 left in Jul & 2 in Oct. It's highly unlikely we'll finish with less than 32W in these final games. That would give us 97W. The Twins would need to finish 44-18 to overtake us. Highly unlikely for a team that is 4-6 in it's last 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 As long as we play the Twins another 13 times or so, there's no such thing as a lock. The worst thing about the A's playing great right now isn't that we might have to play them in the playoffs. Instead, it's the fact that there will be another team that has a great record in the AL likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I agree. There's no way the A's can keep playing .770 ball (using Jugg's numbers since June 1), and I think the Angels are a stronger team overall. The Angels have a stronger lineup (the A's are pretty much like us, only three guys over .290, and 2 of them aren't everyday players, and Crosby missed some games, meaning a smaller sample size), a deeper rotation, especially if Escobar gets back (the A's rotation is frontloaded, making them better built for the playoffs), and a similar bullpen (although I give the A's a slight edge thus far). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They have 10 H2H games left. That will decide it. I think the A's will do it. They are 8-2 in their last 10. That means they are avoiding losing streaks. This team has a history of hitting a zone & riding the season out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 As long as we play the Twins another 13 times or so, there's no such thing as a lock. The worst thing about the A's playing great right now isn't that we might have to play them in the playoffs. Instead, it's the fact that there will be another team that has a great record in the AL likely. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let's say we do follow the team's 4 yr avg & win 32 of our last 62 for a total of 97 wins. Let's likewise say we follow the team's 4 yr avg vs MIN & win 4 out of our last 13 vs Minny. Did I mention the Twins have 10 games with Oak & 6 games with Bos left? Adding it all up our 32W drop the MN to 22. Our 4 wins against MN drops it to 18. Assuming they split with the contenders it drops to 10. That means they have to go 22-10 (.6875) in their remaining 32 games just to tie us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 01:03 AM) Let's say we do follow the team's 4 yr avg & win 32 of our last 62 for a total of 97 wins. Let's likewise say we follow the team's 4 yr avg vs MIN & win 4 out of our last 13 vs Minny. Did I mention the Twins have 10 games with Oak & 6 games with Bos left? Adding it all up our 32W drop the MN to 22. Our 4 wins against MN drops it to 18. Assuming they split with the contenders it drops to 10. That means they have to go 22-10 (.6875) in their remaining 32 games just to tie us. Have you never heard of a 10 game losing streak? There is nothing locked up, I don't care how much you JUGGle the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Have you never heard of a 10 game losing streak? There is nothing locked up, I don't care how much you JUGGle the numbers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All of that is factored in to the 4 yr avg's. All things considered the only way we can lose the division is if Minny at least splits with Oak & Bos, dominates us, & wins every series they play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Ill root for the twins, indians, yankees or red sox as long as theyre playing oakland. I wouldnt care who the sox played in the first round if they make the playoffs besides Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRetiredGuy Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 When the Sox clinch the division, then start thinking about matchups. Until then, it is always best to keep a good team down. The Twins are a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 02:31 PM) Ill root for the twins, indians, yankees or red sox as long as theyre playing oakland. I wouldnt care who the sox played in the first round if they make the playoffs besides Oakland. Considering the Twins play the A's 10 times in the 2nd half........that would be quite bad for the Sox if the Twins performed real well against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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