Ozzie Montana Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) Then I'm guessing that they also meant other people from outside New Orleans. Edited August 29, 2005 by Ozzie Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:43 AM) There are only 500,000 people that live in New Orleans?!?!? I think you might have gotten some bad info. It was a report from FEMA, and they did say 1 million from NO to the Cape area. I'm not familiar with NO and it's surrounding areas so I have no idea of what the "cape" area is ...? But they did say 1 million. They also said that there's a 40% chance the Superdome won't survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:49 AM) It was a report from FEMA, and they did say 1 million from NO to the Cape area. I'm not familiar with NO and it's surrounding areas so I have no idea of what the "cape" area is ...? But they did say 1 million. They also said that there's a 40% chance the Superdome won't survive. Must be the metro area then, even so it was reported that 80% of NO evacuated, so maybe the number was 1 million people left? Anyways, about the Superdome, they said a section of roof opened up and is damaged http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/29/hurr...rina/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Wow.. http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/la/nonprecipwarning.html WWUS74 KLIX 291122 NPWLIX URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 619 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005 ...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA MOVING ACROSS LOWER PLAQUEMINES PARISH... ...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED... THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE. HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW POSSIBLY TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. MANY WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT. AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK. POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. $$ LAZ037>040-049-050-057>070-MSZ070-071-077-080>082-291700- ASCENSION-HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON- LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE- ORLEANS-PEARL RIVER-PIKE-ST CHARLES-ST HELENA-ST JAMES- ST JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST TAMMANY-TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON- UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-UPPER ST BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE- WALTHALL-WASHINGTON- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BILOXI...GULFPORT...BOGALUSA... GRAND ISLE...HAMMOND...HOUMA...MCCOMB...METAIRIE...NEW ORLEANS... PASCAGOULA...PICAYUNE...SLIDELL 619 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005 ...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT... HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. HURRICANE FORCE SUSTAINED WINDS ARE OVERSPREADING THE COASTAL PARISHES AT THIS TIME AND HURRICANE GUSTS ARE AS FAR NORTH AS LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN AS OF 6 AM CDT. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO ONSET FARTHER NORTH BY MID-MORNING AND PERSIST FOR 5 TO 8 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS AROUND 175 MPH ARE POSSIBLE IN THE WARNED AREA THIS MORNING. DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS! $$ LAZ034>036-046>048-056-MSZ068-069-291700- AMITE-ASSUMPTION-EAST BATON ROUGE-EAST FELICIANA-IBERVILLE- POINTE COUPEE-WEST BATON ROUGE-WEST FELICIANA-WILKINSON- INCLUDING THE CITY OF...BATON ROUGE 619 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005 ...INLAND TROPICAL STORM WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT... HURRICANE KATRINA WAS MOVING ONSHORE NEAR EMPIRE LOUISIANA AT 6 AM CDT. THE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS WILL EXTEND WESTWARD GENERALLY WEST OF A LIBERTY TO DENHAM SPRINGS TO LABADIEVILLE AND CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO PERSIST THROUGH LATE AFTERNOON. MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS OF 80 TO 90 MPH ARE POSSIBLE IN EAST-CENTRAL LOUISIANA AND SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI. DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:50 AM) Must be the metro area then, even so it was reported that 80% of NO evacuated, so maybe the number was 1 million people left? They said they would not be surprised to see 1 million + casualties from this hurricane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 WoW. And they filled up the Dome for shelter for the poor and sick right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 07:53 AM) They said they would not be surprised to see 1 million + casualties from this hurricane. If there were/are 1 million people still hanging around when that hurricane hit I have once again underestimated the stupidity of the human race. How can 1 million people possibly die from this hurricane? They had ample warning, and everyone should've gotten far away....That number is preposterous. That being the case, keep everyone in your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Correction... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9113550/ "Hurricane could leave 1 million homeless" I don't know if any of these reporters are on the same page.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:53 AM) They said they would not be surprised to see 1 million + casualties from this hurricane. Wow. That's all you can say. Wow. My advice would be for everyone who can afford it, make a donation to the Red Cross, because this is going to be the life blood of some people for weeks at least. https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) WoW. And they filled up the Dome for shelter for the poor and sick right. Yeah I just watched a news report on that. Scary stuff for those inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I really don't know who to believe, and I should stop watching and listening to it because it's freaking me out... But I've heard several times from last night and this morning that this storm has the potential to wipe NO off the map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:58 AM) WoW. And they filled up the Dome for shelter for the poor and sick right. I think I heard 10 to 15K are in there. Hopefully it holds.. and doesn't flood too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:02 AM) If there were/are 1 million people still hanging around when that hurricane hit I have once again underestimated the stupidity of the human race. How can 1 million people possibly die from this hurricane? They had ample warning, and everyone should've gotten far away....That number is preposterous. That being the case, keep everyone in your I don't think they were referring to the immediate NO area. They keep mentioning the flooding. I think they are anticipating the surges to cause most of the casualties which I would guess could carry along the Mississippi River..? Someone... Maybe Jim... can you help with this..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I did just see a clip on CNBC that the DOE will authorize the use of the Strategic Oil Reserve to help cover energy disruptions caused by Katrina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) I really don't know who to believe, and I should stop watching and listening to it because it's freaking me out... But I've heard several times from last night and this morning that this storm has the potential to wipe NO off the map. One of my Dad's friends went there last weekend on a Business Trip. Needless to say, very lucky it wasn't this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:06 AM) But I've heard several times from last night and this morning that this storm has the potential to wipe NO off the map. Since New Orleans is built below sea level, and relies on man-made levies and canals to funnel out water, it's inevitable the city will experience a huge flooding disaster. I read in the paper this morning besides toxic sewage and industrial products coffins could be additional debris. Most are above ground for the reason of flooding, but if the water swells above 20 ft it won't matter too much. Edited August 29, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/...0829&ID=5068935 They are estimating at the very least $12 billion in damages, two estimates are $25-30 billion in total damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 How bad will this be compared to the hurricanes Florida had last year in terms of damage and potential cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:14 AM) Since New Orleans is built below sea level, and relies on man-made levies and canals to funnel out water, it's inevitable the city will experience a huge flooding disaster. I read in the paper this morning besides toxic sewage and industrial products coffins could be additional debris. Most are above ground for the reason of flooding, but if the water swells above 20 ft it won't matter too much. I always knew that - because when we visited there we saw the cemetaries and heard the stories of being below sea level, etc.. - but never really bothered to comprehend exactly what it meant. On another note.. how far is Shreveport from NO...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:17 AM) How bad will this be compared to the hurricanes Florida had last year in terms of damage and potential cost? This would be the single most expensive hurricane if it passes $20 billion. Also they are talking about the enviornmental costs and problems here. They are talking about a flooded cesspool of chemicals, waste, and even dead bodies (Because NO is under sea level, most people are not buried, instead there are above ground tombs) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9113550/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) I always knew that - because when we visited there we saw the cemetaries and heard the stories of being below sea level, etc.. - but never really bothered to comprehend exactly what it meant. On another note.. how far is Shreveport from NO...? Shereveport is plenty north and west of NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:17 AM) How bad will this be compared to the hurricanes Florida had last year in terms of damage and potential cost? Here's a link to other massive hurricanes and the damage they caused. It'll be up there for sure. http://www.msnbc.com/modules/interactive.a...s&navid=3032127 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:10 AM) I don't think they were referring to the immediate NO area. They keep mentioning the flooding. I think they are anticipating the surges to cause most of the casualties which I would guess could carry along the Mississippi River..? Someone... Maybe Jim... can you help with this..?? The flooding is going to flow upstream along the Mississippi River? New Orleans could definitely become a cesspool, no doubt. That is why I'm suprised they allowed people to stay in the superdome. Ideally they should've tried to get everyone out and keep everyone out till the water goes down. I'm just not a big fan of projections as there truly is no telling what kind of damage will be done and how many people will be affected. Lets just hope for the best... The storm is supposed to pick up speed after it makes landfall so hopefully the flooding will not be too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:20 AM) Shereveport is plenty north and west of NO. Thanks Mike. Worried a bit about a friends elderly parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 09:21 AM) The flooding is going to flow upstream along the Mississippi River? That's what I asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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