SSH2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) http://www.startribune.com/stories/509/5798207.html NEW ORDER UNFURLED After adding Rondell White, the Twins are pretty much finished addressing their offense. A look at their projected lineup for 2006: 1. Shannon Stewart, lf 2. Luis Castillo, 2b 3. Joe Mauer, c 4. Rondell White, dh 5. Torii Hunter, cf 6. Justin Morneau, 1b 7. Tony Batista, 3b 8. Lew Ford/Jason Kubel/Michael Cuddyer, rf 9. Jason Bartlett, ss This is nice to know. No Frank or Piazza for the Twinkies. And while that is an improved lineup, it definately doesn't scare me. Edited December 23, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Rondell White is a pretty good player but idonno about cleanup hitter..... But playing DH should definitely help him stay healthy which is a big key for him. If Morneau steps up to the expectations everyone had of him their offense can be pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Bring it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Their 1-2-3 are very good. Other than that: :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Morneau and Mauer are still going to be the keys to that lineup. If they perform, they're a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierzynski 12 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) That Twins lineup still doesn't scare me.But they still give us problems....... Edited December 23, 2005 by Pierzynski 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 That's an improved lineup with their fantastic pitching, they scare me more then the Indians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 That lineup will be good enough for 3rd place in the Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 10:30 AM) That lineup will be good enough for 3rd place in the Central. 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 08:23 AM) That's an improved lineup with their fantastic pitching, they scare me more then the Indians. That's an improved lineup...IF people like Hunter, Mauer, and White can stay healthy and if Morneau can produce. In baseball, the more "IF"s you have, the less likely they all are to come true. They're counting on an awful lot of things to go right, which I guess is what you have to do when you're a small market team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 10:36 AM) That's an improved lineup...IF people like Hunter, Mauer, and White can stay healthy and if Morneau can produce. In baseball, the more "IF"s you have, the less likely they all are to come true. They're counting on an awful lot of things to go right, which I guess is what you have to do when you're a small market team. Torii just had a freak injury last year, I'm sure he'll be fine. They improved an infinite amount at 2nd base because Nick Punto and Luis Rivas suck, White is an upgrade over Lecroy but like you said he has to stay healthy. Mauer and Morneau will both be better this season and their rotation is going to be improved as well imo. There isn't a team in the AL that scares me more then Minny to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 All they did was add washed up old guys like White and Batista. I'm not scared at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 08:40 AM) Torii just had a freak injury last year, I'm sure he'll be fine. They improved an infinite amount at 2nd base because Nick Punto and Luis Rivas suck, White is an upgrade over Lecroy but like you said he has to stay healthy. Mauer and Morneau will both be better this season and their rotation is going to be improved as well imo. There isn't a team in the AL that scares me more then Minny to be honest. Yes, Hunter's injury was a freak injury...but so was Magglio Ordonez's Injury. So were all 3 of Prior's injuries. So was Mauer's injury the year before. You know as well as I do that when a person suffers a serious injury, there are always reprocussions long into the future. Hell, both my knees keep telling me that. Mauer and Morneau are, IMO, the keys to their lineup. If they're both "Better" as you say...and if other key people stay healthy...then that team could beat the crap out of everyone except us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchtower41 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Pierzynski 12 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 10:20 AM) That Twins lineup still doesn't scare me.But they still give us problems....... "they" meaning Johan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 I am still waiting to see what Mauer can do in a full season. Not that he is not good, but I would still venture to say that people are expecting bigger things than we have seen so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:28 PM) I am still waiting to see what Mauer can do in a full season. Not that he is not good, but I would still venture to say that people are expecting bigger things than we have seen so far. His 550 plate appearances last year didn't constitute a full season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) His 550 plate appearances last year didn't constitute a full season? He logged some DL time and was slowed by injuries. 489 is his 2005 total, but not at 100%. Edited December 23, 2005 by Greg The Bull Luzinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:59 PM) He logged some DL time and was slowed by injuries. 489 is his 2005 total, but not at 100%. 489 AB's plus 61 walks, hence 550 plate appearances. For comparison, AJ Pierzynski had 483 plate appearances in 2005. Mauer did have some injury problems, but his biggest issue I still think for most of the year was recovering from his knee problems the year before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) Mauer did have some injury problems, but his biggest issue I still think for most of the year was recovering from his knee problems the year before. Agreed. Hence, his not yet living up to expectations ... yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) 2nd. 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 01:07 PM) Agreed. Hence, his not yet living up to expectations ... yet. Problem is, as a catcher, he may never...when you're a catcher and you start having knee, leg and groin problems early in your career...it's really damn hard for those things to heal all the way and never bother you, since you're taking such a beating behind the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 04:10 PM) Problem is, as a catcher, he may never...when you're a catcher and you start having knee, leg and groin problems early in your career...it's really damn hard for those things to heal all the way and never bother you, since you're taking such a beating behind the plate. Once again, agreed. The shelf life of a good younf catcher is generally short which is why it is smart to not sign them long term. If Mauer is ever to come close to the offensive expectations, a position change (ie Biggio) may be in order. Perhaps Mauer can go to 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Terry Ryan better be looking for more offense imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) All they did was add washed up old guys like White and Batista. I'm not scared at all. While still playing in America, Tony Batista hit atleast 25 homers in a season from 99-04. That's not bad at all, especially for how cheaply Minnesota got him. He's not outstanding offensively, but if he hits .270, that's a huge bat down in the lower part of the order. He hits .240, and he's still hitting 25-30 homers for you. Also, with Rondell White, there have been 2 guarantees for him for the past 12 years or so, with the exception of 1997 and 2002 - putting up a .290-.300 average and a .790-.850 OPS for you, and taking atleast 1 DL stint(after all, you can't spell Rondell without DL). Those exception years are of course a full season, and his season with New York. You take out one of those factors as best as you can, and you are looking at a dangerous ass player for very cheap. I don't view him as washed up, but rather as a very good hitter who is a bit injury prone. With less pressure on Morneau and Ford(and company) lower in the lineup, a better top of the order for Minnesota, and almost an undoubtedly improved pitching staff, I view them as a very scary team next year. Include how Cleveland will not go away, and the additions the Sox have made, and I gotta imagine that atleast 100 wins will probably be what it takes to win the AL Central. Say hello to the toughest division in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 That line-up doesn't scare me at all. And besides Johan, either does their rotation (now that Cy Mays is gone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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