RockRaines Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) Im pretty sure were all siding with Spiegel. As for Oney....go away with your Dad. He's Cowley's source for most information. Of course he sides with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) LOL Only a Guillen would take the exact opposite from the situation. Everyone seems to think Cowley got butt raped, to put it lightly. But you have to admit too, Soxtalk is the last place anything involving Cowley could be judged fairly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) But you have to admit too, Soxtalk is the last place anything involving Cowley could be judged fairly. I got texts from an assortment of my friends saying the same thing, and none of them post here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) But you have to admit too, Soxtalk is the last place anything involving Cowley could be judged fairly. Where exactly could a hack like Cowley be judged fairly? A school for the deaf and blind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) But you have to admit too, Soxtalk is the last place anything involving Cowley could be judged fairly. Judging by the response of Score listeners and the other writers in town, they are making the same judgments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The whole thing was a draw, IMO. The winner was the one you agree with. Both made valid points, and both sounded like irrational idiots. Nobody was going to be swayed by that whole little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 12:58 PM) The whole thing was a draw, IMO. The winner was the one you agree with. Both made valid points, and both sounded like irrational idiots. Nobody was going to be swayed by that whole little bit. Most likely the case as always with these things. Waiting for podcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 BAM! http://chicago.cbslocal.com/show/the-mcnei...d-spiegel-show/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Speigel does come off as a douche as well, but Cowley really didn't do a damn thing to defend himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thanks SS2K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I did miss the part where Cowley called Speigel "The Jay Mariotti of radio". That was a spittake there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Spiegal comes off as a goof. Basically blaming Cowley for reporting what he knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Sounds like a Jerry Springer show... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Not much of a Speigel fan at all really much to do about nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) Not much of a Speigel fan at all really much to do about nothing! Agreed. Loud and stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Spiegal comes off as a goof. Basically blaming Cowley for reporting what he knows. Actually I agree with this. Although I have to admit living overseas I am not nearly as close to it as the majority of this board. But I didn't really see much of an issue that Cowley was saying there, if it's true that KW doesn't talk to him and the only way for him to get the story is to get info from Ozzie and others in the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 What's all of this "blow him up" stuff - KW's extra-marital activities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 01:59 PM) Not much of a Speigel fan at all really much to do about nothing! Ha, did you mean Much Ado about Nothing? Oh, Shakespeare.. I will be listening to this podcast in a bit, but I love that Cowley got put in his place (by most accounts). The guy is a major douche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:06 PM) Actually I agree with this. Although I have to admit living overseas I am not nearly as close to it as the majority of this board. But I didn't really see much of an issue that Cowley was saying there, if it's true that KW doesn't talk to him and the only way for him to get the story is to get info from Ozzie and others in the locker room. The problem comes in presenting Ozzie's side of the story as the only side and as the complete truth and consistently bashing KW with petty personal insults. Just because Ozzie is your only source doesn't mean you need to parrot everything he says uncritically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:07 PM) What's all of this "blow him up" stuff - KW's extra-marital activities? That was uncalled for by Cowley, basically throwing KW under the bus without saying it, and the comment regarding Toni Braxton was childish as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) The problem comes in presenting Ozzie's side of the story as the only side and as the complete truth and consistently bashing KW with petty personal insults. Just because Ozzie is your only source doesn't mean you need to parrot everything he says uncritically. And like I said earlier, why would Kenny talk to him when he knows Joe's objective it to run Kenny out of town for Ozzie? He flat out stated Ozzie wants him gone, Joe gives Kenny the 90-10 blame for what's gone on between them... Connecting the dots isn't difficult despite Joe's protests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Where the hell is JR in all of this? Take some action for once. How many years of this crap between Ozzie, Kenny, and Marty34 do we have to live through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) The problem comes in presenting Ozzie's side of the story as the only side and as the complete truth and consistently bashing KW with petty personal insults. Just because Ozzie is your only source doesn't mean you need to parrot everything he says uncritically. It also does not mean it's untrue. According to Cowley, other reporters know what's going on and won't report it because they need Williams as a source. That would not surprise me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) Where the hell is JR in all of this? Take some action for once. How many years of this crap between Ozzie, Kenny, and Marty34 do we have to live through? Hillarious! Kicking off your long weekend with a funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 2, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) It also does not mean it's untrue. According to Cowley, other reporters know what's going on and won't report it because they need Williams as a source. That would not surprise me at all. That also doesn't make any sense. Don't they need Ozzie more as a source since they talk to him every day? Why would they write negatives about Oz then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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