2016 Democratic Thread

[greg775]

So the attorney general, a week or so after visiting with Bill Clinton on a plane on a tarmac of all places, an elitist move in itself, announces predictably just now that the case is closed on Hillary e-mail. She had to be so happy; all she did was say the FBI investigated, recommended no charges, so no charges. Took her off the hook completely. She needs to have a private meeting with the FBI director on a plane on a tarmac where they can privately hoist a cup of champagne over this exoneration.

 

Yes it was so predictable, but what baffles the little guy taxpayer is how the hell the FBI director can say she DEFINITELY did wrong, did a lot of things criminally wrong here, but no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. Also that there was no criminal INTENT of Hillary.

Well gee wiz, there's no criminal intent when I drive 100 in a 65. I just temporarily wasn't thinking and hit the gas. I had no ill will here; no deviant behavior trying to break a law. It just happened. My bad. There was no criminal intent when I left my child in a 100 degree car; I just thought it'd be less than one minute as I went and bought something inside the gas station quickly. I didn't know I'd get an important phone call in the store as my child nearly died in the car and a bystander had to break the window open. Heaven forbid I am being arrested? There was no intent dammit!

 

How the hell can the FBI director say she did SO MANY things wrong but no reasonable prosecutor would ever prosecute here? I'll find a prosecutor or two who will press charges. Trump should just go nuts IF HILLARY actually agrees to a debate or two. All he should do is talk about Crooked Hillary and the emails and Arkansas and Bill's behavior in the oval office. He's going to lose anyway; I'd talk about no issues. I'd just keep saying: "As a form of protest against the FBI allowing Hillary to skate on the e-mail issue, I only will talk about my opponent's non presidential behavior of the past. The system is rigged and she is crooked."

Edited July 6, 2016 by greg775

[caulfield12]

Post Politics

Eric Trump: My father gives ‘millions and millions and millions’ to charity

 

 

 

Not sure how believable that claim is given that Trump claims some sort of middle income tax deduction worth a couple hundred but would forego millions in deductions here.

 

eta well, aside from claiming that trump "likes to keep some anonymity" in the first place. That's the least believable deflection you could possibly come up with.

 

 

 

Trump's entire bulls*** image being destroyed in the process of his campaign really is the icing on the cake.

 

 

"My brand name being attached to the event itself was worth approximately $1.4 million to the gala, alone. Any rich white dude can cut a check, but I made the GALA an event, just like all my hotels, golf courses and beauty pageants make news all around the world and draw the cream of the crop, just the absolute best people out to these events."

Edited July 6, 2016 by caulfield12

[Balta1701]

So the attorney general, a week or so after visiting with Bill Clinton on a plane on a tarmac of all places, an elitist move in itself, announces predictably just now that the case is closed on Hillary e-mail. She had to be so happy; all she did was say the FBI investigated, recommended no charges, so no charges. Took her off the hook completely. She needs to have a private meeting with the FBI director on a plane on a tarmac where they can privately hoist a cup of champagne over this exoneration.

 

Yes it was so predictable, but what baffles the little guy taxpayer is how the hell the FBI director can say she DEFINITELY did wrong, did a lot of things criminally wrong here, but no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. Also that there was no criminal INTENT of Hillary.

Well gee wiz, there's no criminal intent when I drive 100 in a 65. I just temporarily wasn't thinking and hit the gas. I had no ill will here; no deviant behavior trying to break a law. It just happened. My bad. There was no criminal intent when I left my child in a 100 degree car; I just thought it'd be less than one minute as I went and bought something inside the gas station quickly. I didn't know I'd get an important phone call in the store as my child nearly died in the car and a bystander had to break the window open. Heaven forbid I am being arrested? There was no intent dammit!

 

How the hell can the FBI director say she did SO MANY things wrong but no reasonable prosecutor would ever prosecute here? I'll find a prosecutor or two who will press charges. Trump should just go nuts IF HILLARY actually agrees to a debate or two. All he should do is talk about Crooked Hillary and the emails and Arkansas and Bill's behavior in the oval office. He's going to lose anyway; I'd talk about no issues. I'd just keep saying: "As a form of protest against the FBI allowing Hillary to skate on the e-mail issue, I only will talk about my opponent's non presidential behavior of the past. The system is rigged and she is crooked."

[StrangeSox]

Trump points out that actually it's the people who criticized his antisemitic retweet who are the real racists

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/...826057360633856

[StrangeSox]

Trump just can't let the star thing go

 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/...865499660091393

 

I'm sure Clinton appreciates him doing everything in his power to keep his own stupidity as the main story

[caulfield12]

"LET IT GO!" Donald.

 

You're only making yourself look like more of an ass comparing it to Frozen. That's just idiotic.

 

What next, he's going to say he was "honoring Holocaust survivors and has raised millions for them..."?

[StrangeSox]

seriously how dumb is this campaign

 

Oliver Darcy ✔ @oliverdarcy

Eric Trump this morning talking his dad’s “Frozen” tweet: "It is verbatim. It is the exact same star"

8:26 AM - 7 Jul 2016

 

 

We know who made the original image, and he was definitely an antisemite! Why don't they understand that?

 

eta this story would have been dead and buried over the weekend if Trump and his campaign weren't so incompetent. Can anyone imagine him trying to actually handle international diplomacy?

Edited July 7, 2016 by StrangeSox

[Y2HH]

I'm now convinced Trump is the new world heavyweight champion troll. This star thing is awesome.

[StrangeSox]

I'm now convinced Trump is the new world heavyweight champion troll. This star thing is awesome.

 

He's trolling his way into an epic defeat and destroying his brand, so I'm not sure how good of a strategy that really is.

 

I'd say it's the gift that keeps on giving and that it's pure hilarity, but unfortunately antisemitic attacks and harassment are on the rise.

[Y2HH]

He's trolling his way into an epic defeat and destroying his brand, so I'm not sure how good of a strategy that really is.

 

I'd say it's the gift that keeps on giving and that it's pure hilarity, but unfortunately antisemitic attacks and harassment are on the rise.

 

He's an idiot.

 

He's always been an idiot.

 

I'm so happy America's love affair with this moron is coming to an end. Anyone that can find a way to bankrupt a f***ing casino and calls himself a good business man is baffling. It's literally a business where people give you money knowing the odds are vastly against them winning any back. Yet he somehow loses money with this enterprise...and is still considered a great business mind.

 

He's like a child that was given a huge candy store, and nothing more.

[StrangeSox]

I've never understood why people associated Trump with luxurious and refinement in the first place. Gold-plated everything always screams "tacky idiot with lots of money and no taste" not class so....oh, wait, that explains it perfectly.

[Y2HH]

I've never understood why people associated Trump with luxurious and refinement in the first place. Gold-plated everything always screams "tacky idiot with lots of money and no taste" not class so....oh, wait, that explains it perfectly.

 

Trying to find a reason to like Trump just so I'm not agreeing with you. But he's done it...he's actually done it. We've somehow found common ground.

[pettie4sox]

So can Republicans do something about this or have they given up?

[StrangeSox]

So can Republicans do something about this or have they given up?

 

There's still some swirling rumors of really long-shot attempts at the convention to block Trump from getting the nomination on the first ballot, but then what are they left with? Ted Cruz? Someone else who'd have 0% support of their horrible base that nominated Trump and Cruz #1 and #2?

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-po...oming-up-short/

[StrangeSox]

From Trump's meeting with GOP leaders earlier today:

 

Another Republican in the meeting who declined to go on the record so he could speak candidly told TPM that Trump was asked pointedly if he would defend Article I of the Constitution.

 

"Not only will I stand up for Article One," Trump enthusiastically stated, according to the member in the room. "I'll stand up for Article Two, Article 12, you name it of the Constitution."

 

The Republican member said that Trump's lack of knowledge about how many articles exist, gave him "a little pause." (The Constitution has seven articles and 27 amendments.)

 

"There wasn't a lot of substance, and I think at some point we got to get to substance in the most significant political position in the world," the member said.

 

yeah, probably would be a good idea to get to substance at some point with your nominee for President.

 

more from the meeting:

Matthew DeFour ✔ @WSJMattD4

"In his first meeting with the House GOP conference, Trump said he will put OR, WA, CT and MI in play." No WI.

 

more:

 

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/7...src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

 

I seriously want to know how anyone can look at this campaign and think "yes, this man seems to have what it takes to be President"

Edited July 7, 2016 by StrangeSox

[StrangeSox]

Also the House GOP's neverending need to drag out investigating Clinton appeared to blow up in their face today.

[Y2HH]

Also the House GOP's neverending need to drag out investigating Clinton appeared to blow up in their face today.

 

How so? I think they let her off easy because the elite are under a different set of laws than the rest of us.

[BigSqwert]

Has Hillary "Superpredator" Clinton released a statement on the recent murders of black men?

[Balta1701]

Has Hillary "Superpredator" Clinton released a statement on the recent murders of black men?

There was one last night on the Tuesday shooting. If there was one on last night's then Google doesn't list it highly yet.

Hillary Clinton called the shooting of Alton Sterling a "tragedy," in a statement on Wednesday night, and said she was "glad the Department of Justice has agreed to a full and thorough review of this shooting."

 

Sterling, 37, was shot and killed was by an officer outside a convenience store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, on Tuesday. The shooting, which was caught on video, has drawn consternation and protest from activists and politicians across the country and the president of the NAACP's local branch is calling for the city's police chief and mayor to resign.

"From Staten Island to Baltimore, Ferguson to Baton Rouge, too many African-American families mourn the loss of a loved one from a police-involved incident," Clinton said, referencing other office involved shootings that have scarred the country. "Something is profoundly wrong when so many Americans have reason to believe that our country doesn't consider them as precious as others because of the color of their skin."

 

...

"I am glad the Department of Justice has agreed to a full and thorough review of this shooting," Clinton said. "Incidents like this one have undermined the trust between police departments and the communities they serve. We need to rebuild that trust. We need to ensure justice is served."

 

She added: "Progress is possible if we stand together and never waver in our fight to secure the future that every American deserves."

[Y2HH]

You know what's really f***ed? When Hillary called out Sanders on "not being there for health care reform in the 90's" when he was like literally standing right behind her...I think she even thanked him in the damn video that was circulating...and her supporters still all pretend she's legit.

 

What a complete s***bag.

 

We all need to stop defending s*** politicians that don't care about us. And yes, I put both Trump and Hillary in that group, amongst many many others.

 

I'm not even a fan of Sanders socialist leanings, but I'd be willing to bet anything he cares more than either of them. Even I would sooner see him as president than what we're going to get.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Y2HH

[StrangeSox]

How so? I think they let her off easy because the elite are under a different set of laws than the rest of us.

 

Comey was pretty unequivocal in his responses to them that there was no indication that she had lied and there was no basis for prosecution.

[Y2HH]

Comey was pretty unequivocal in his responses to them that there was no indication that she had lied and there was no basis for prosecution.

 

This is pretty laughable.

 

In one sentence he says, “We have no basis to conclude that [Clinton] lied to the FBI.”, and then continues to say the following:

 

Lie 1: On Clinton’s claim that nothing she sent or received was marked classified, he said, “That’s not true. … There was classified material emailed.” Clinton had made that claim repeatedly in public, and also in sworn testimony before the House Benghazi committee last October.

 

Lie 2: On her claim that she used one device, he said, “She used multiple devices.”

 

Lie 3: On her claim that she turned over all work-related emails, Comey said, “No, we found work-related emails, thousands that were not returned.”

 

I don't think our definition of liar match here, SS.

[StrangeSox]

Given that the whole thing* was political theater in the first place, they didn't get the responses they wanted and that one sentence cuts against their narrative.

 

eta they're getting predictably increasingly histrionic, now with Issa calling for a government shutdown until Clinton is indicted

 

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/07/...illary-clinton/

 

 

*thing=Comey's testimony today

Edited July 7, 2016 by StrangeSox

[Y2HH]

Given that the whole thing was political theater in the first place, they didn't get the responses they wanted and that one sentence cuts against their narrative.

 

Fact is she did lie. A lot. Comey can sugarcoat what he feels is a lie, but practically everything she said he refuted...and if that was almost anyone else (not a member of the elite class), they'd be in f***ing jail...and you know it.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Y2HH

[StrangeSox]

Fact is she did lie. A lot. Comey can sugarcoat what he feels is a lie, but practically everything she said he refuted...and if that was almost another else (not a member of the elite class), they'd be in f***ing jail...and you know it.

 

No, they'd probably be fired from their job after being stripped of their clearance. As Comey himself said, there's no precedent for charging someone for what Clinton did.