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baseball america just came out with 75-100 top prospects, Fields lands at 95 with Iguchi right behind him at 96. i guess you consider him a prospect. interestingly enough angel guzman has fallen to 88 for the scrubs, who will probably have only pie and dopirak in the top 100, sox should land anderson sweeney mccarthy and maybe tracey

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Tracey won't get on the list because in the top 10 White Sox prospects Fields was a spot ahead of him. Therefore, Anderson, BMac, and Sweeney (in that order) will all be in the top 75.
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QUOTE(danman31 @ Feb 28, 2005 -> 09:05 PM)
Tracey won't get on the list because in the top 10 White Sox prospects Fields was a spot ahead of him. Therefore, Anderson, BMac, and Sweeney (in that order) will all be in the top 75.
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yeah i guess you are right, i was also proved wrong as ryan harvey lands at 66 for the cubs, no chisox prospects in 50-75
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Um, there is no reason iguchi is on that list at all.
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they like to do that, I think Kazuo Matsui was pretty high last year. They go by likelihood of reaching a ceiling, so I guess technically they are right. Here's the whole list if it hasn't been posted yet. Pretty good love for the Sox, considering that our farm system has been depleted by trades. I'm sure people around here will whine anyways though


1. Joe Mauer, c, Twins: "We had some concern from the start that he was bigger than the normal catcher. But Joe Mauer is not normal, from his mind to his tools to his heart." -- Twins scouting director Mike Radcliff.

2. Felix Hernandez, rhp, Mariners: "He's the best I've seen in the last three or four years, and he's right up there with the great stuff guys I've ever seen." -- National League scout.

3. Delmon Young, of, Devil Rays: "He changes the outcome of every game with his power and his arm." -- Charleston (W.Va.) manager Ken Joyce.

4. Ian Stewart, 3b, Rockies: "He's athletic and he's got some juice in his bat, and I like his haircut." -- Savannah manager Bob Henley.

5. Joel Guzman, ss, Dodgers: "He's Juan Gonzalez waiting to happen." -- American League scout.

6. Casey Kotchman, 1b, Angels: "He's such a good hitter and he's still developing. I think he'll easily hit 30-plus homers in the majors." -- NL scout.

7. Scott Kazmir, lhp, Devil Rays: "You'll know why we traded for him when you see him pitch. He's got outstanding stuff." -- Devil Rays general manager Chuck LaMar.

8. Rickie Weeks, 2b, Brewers: "He has the tools, he's smart, he's a good person and he has the work ethic. He's going to be outstanding." -- NL scout.

9. Andy Marte, 3b, Braves: "There's nothing not to like about Andy Marte. He's an outstanding defender with a chance to be an impact player offensively." -- Birmingham manager Razor Shines.

10. Hanley Ramirez, ss, Red Sox: "What a young talent. He makes the game look so easy." -- Fort Myers manager Jose Marzan.

11. Lastings Milledge, of, Mets: "He's a double threat because of his power and his ability to leadoff and make things happen on the bases." -- Greensboro manager Steve Phillips.

12. Dallas McPherson, 3b, Angels: "Every mistake we made, he made us pay for. He has an easy swing and natural power." -- San Antonio manager Dave Brundage.

13. Matt Cain, rhp, Giants: "With his stuff and maturity level, you look at that package and think front-of-the-rotation starter." -- AL scout.

14. Jeff Francoeur, of, Braves: "He has it all and his makeup is off the charts." -- AL scout.

15. Prince Fielder, 1b, Brewers: "I think he'll be a more complete hitter than his dad was, especially if he avoids losing control of his body." -- NL scout.

16. Adam Miller, rhp, Indians: "He was dirty. His fastball and slider were more than plus." -- Lakewood manager P.J. Forbes.

17. Jason Kubel, of, Twins: "I call him Mr. Doubles. He hits the ball low and uses all fields, so he's going to hit a lot of doubles." -- Rochester broadcaster/former big league manager Joe Altobelli.

18. Jeremy Hermida, of, Marlins: "He's a hitter. That's a beautiful swing." -- Sarasota manager Todd Claus.

19. Chad Billingsley, rhp, Dodgers: "He's just a kid with an overpowering fastball and overpowering slider. He's mature beyond his years." -- Dodgers scouting director Logan White.

20. Jeff Niemann, rhp, Devil Rays: "He's truly unique because he's got four pitches and he can use those pitches, yet he's a power guy." -- Devil Rays general manager Chuck LaMar.

21. Brian Dopirak, 1b, Cubs: "When the ball comes off his bat, it's like hitting a golf ball with an aluminum bat." -- Kane County manager Dave Joppie.

22. Carlos Quentin, of, Diamondbacks: "He improved in every phase. He didn't need to improve in some." -- Diamondbacks assistant general manager Bob Miller.

23. Jeff Francis, lhp, Rockies: "His fastball seems like it's going 97, he's throwing it downhill and does it so easy." -- Arkansas manager Tyrone Boykin.

24. Nick Swisher, of, Athletics: "He walks but he's not passive. He wants to hit and makes you throw him his pitch." -- AL scout.

25. Jose Capellan, rhp, Brewers: "Capellan throws in the high 90s, and it is effortless." -- Chattanooga manager Jayhawk Owens.

26. Chris Nelson, ss, Rockies: "His bat is further along than B.J. Upton's was at the same time." -- NL scout.

27. Ryan Howard, 1b, Phillies: "When you have power like him, you don't have to pull it. It's not like any park can hold him." -- New Hampshire manager Mike Basso.

28. J.J. Hardy, ss, Brewers: "He's a special kid in terms of what's between his ears and his heart." -- Brewers scouting director Jack Zduriencik.

29. Mike Hinckley, lhp, Nationals: "What separates him is the makeup, work ethic, preparation. The physical tools are there, and all those intangibles are there already." -- Nationals farm director Adam Wogan.

30. Edwin Jackson, rhp, Dodgers: "He had a rough year but I'll take him any day of the week. He's dominant when he has his command." -- AL scout.

31. Felix Pie, of, Cubs: "He's got five tools and all of them have a chance to be above-average. The sky is the limit." -- Sarasota manager Todd Claus.

32. Daric Barton, 1b/c, Athletics: "I love his approach. It's what you try to teach kids." -- AL scout.

33. Jeremy Reed, of, Mariners: "He's another Mark Kotsay. I love the way he plays and I root for him." -- AL scout.

34. Zach Duke, lhp, Pirates: "You look at him and you think, 'What does this kid have to work on?' He's just so polished." -- Altoona manager Tony Beasley.

35. Gavin Floyd, rhp, Phillies: "He's had that big league curveball since high school. He just needs more fastball command." -- NL scout.

36. Eric Duncan, 3b, Yankees: "His work ethic reminds me of Todd Helton. He's not a guy who falls out of bed and hits. He's a guy who falls out of bed and works, and that's why he hits." -- Battle Creek manager Bill Mosiello.

37. Brian Anderson, of, White Sox: "He's Jeremy Reed with a lot more power potential. He made the White Sox realize that Reed was expendable." -- NL scout.

38. Scott Olsen, lhp, Marlins: "He's a horse when he's out on the mound. He tries to do anything he can to use his fastball." -- Jupiter manager Luis Dorante.

39. Erick Aybar, ss, Angels: "He's the perfect combination of fundamentals and flashiness." -- Rancho Cucamonga manager Bobby Meacham.

40. Conor Jackson, of, Diamondbacks: "He doesn't swing at bad pitches and he doesn't miss good ones." -- Inland Empire manager Daren Brown.

41. Michael Aubrey, 1b, Indians: "The one thing he's always been able to do i**** a fastball. You can see him seek it out." -- Indians farm director John Farrell.

42. Ryan Sweeney, of, White Sox: "This guy is special. I've been in baseball a long time, and I've never seen a kid like this." -- White Sox farm director Dave Wilder.

43. Dan Meyer, lhp, Athletics: "He's a big-game pitcher. He pitches every game with that same level of intensity -- as if it was the last game of the season with it all on the line." -- Richmond manager Pat Kelly.

44. Brian McCann, c, Braves: "All he does i****, and no one talks about how good he was defensively last year. He was one of the better catchers in the minors in a year when there weren't many good catchers." -- AL scout.

45. Josh Barfield, 2b, Padres: "The kid understand****ting. It's just rare to see a young hitter who understands how to stay inside the ball so well." -- Padres scouting director Bill Gayton.

46. Yusmeiro Petit, rhp, Mets: "I just can't hit him. You just can't pick the ball up off him." -- Red Sox outfielder Brandon Moss.

47. Anthony Reyes, rhp, Cardinals: "Besides Jose Capellan, no starter in the Southern League had a better arm, and Anthony has better command than Capellan." -- Tennessee manager Mark DeJohn.

48. Homer Bailey, rhp, Reds: "He's the epitome of a pure projection pitcher. He has plus stuff with a good breaking ball, and he even has a little change-piece now." -- NL scout.

49. Brandon McCarthy, rhp, White Sox: "He's got exceptional command for a tall guy. He creates such good angles and works down in the zone." -- Lynchburg pitching coach Scott Lovekamp.

50. Philip Humber, rhp, Mets: "His performance is pretty consistent, which matches his personality. He's pretty controlled, and I love his curveball." -- NL scout.

51. Shin-Soo Choo, of, Mariners: "He does a lot of things well. He's a pretty complete player and is always involved when they win." -- El Paso manager Scott Coolbaugh.

52. Thomas Diamond, rhp, Rangers: "He's a big, strong horse who comes from a good program. The package is there." -- Former Rangers scouting director Grady Fuson.

53. Kyle Davies, rhp, Braves: "He's got great stuff and is very athletic. The thing that sets him apart is that changeup." -- Wilmington manager Billy Gardner Jr.

54. Franklin Gutierrez, of, Indians: "He has enough bat speed and power to be an impact player." -- AL scout.

55. Mark Rogers, rhp, Brewers: "What we like about him is his package of skills: his size, his mental makeup, and what we think he's going to bring to the table. When you put the whole package together, we thought this kid had an upside." -- Brewers scouting director Jack Zduriencik.

56. Edwin Encarnacion, 3b, Reds: "He hits the ball so hard, he will hit for power. He's not as good as Miguel Cabrera, but he has a similar approach." -- NL scout.

57. Curtis Granderson, of, Tigers: "It seems like all of his tools have gotten better since he signed." -- AL scout.

58. Merkin Valdez, rhp, Giants: "His arm works so easy; it doesn't look like it's upper 90s, but the ball just explodes on hitters." -- NL scout.

59. John Danks, lhp, Rangers: "He has a chance to be a No. 1 or 2 starter in the big leagues. He throws three pitches for strikes, and they're all plus pitches." -- Cedar Rapids manager Bobby Magallanes.

60. Chris Burke, 2b, Astros: "He's a baseball guy. I see him as a Mark Loretta with more speed." -- AL scout.

61. Sergio Santos, ss, Diamondbacks: "He has power and makes all the plays at shortstop. I think he can stay there." -- AL scout.

62. James Loney, 1b, Dodgers: "He can really swing it, and he's really smooth over there at first. He will save his team runs. If he has power it will be a bonus." -- NL scout.

63. Jesse Crain, rhp, Twins: "What was already a really good out pitch for him became even better than what I saw last year. That was the best slider in the International League." -- Indianapolis manager Cecil Cooper.

64. Aaron Hill, ss, Blue Jays: "He's going to be a major league power hitter and he's going to be a very productive major league hitter." -- Blue Jays roving hitting instructor Merv Rettenmund.

65. Nick Markakis, of, Orioles: "You've got to remember he was never a full-time hitter before last year. He gets better every second." -- AL scout.

66. Ryan Harvey, of, Cubs: "He hit two home runs off us that went about 900 feet combined." -- Vancouver manager Dennis Rogers.

67. Jeff Mathis, c, Angels: "If you miss on Mathis' bat, he's still a catcher with great makeup. I love the guy. He's hard not to." -- AL scout.

68. Javier Herrera, of, Athletics: "He can do it all tools-wise. If he were American, he would have been a certain first-round pick." -- AL scout.

69. Brandon League, rhp, Blue Jays: "Everybody knows about that fastball, but his slider is always in the back of your mind. He'll show it to you once outside the zone, but he's just setting you up for later on." -- Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard.

70. J.D. Durbin, rhp, Twins: "He could go to the bullpen right now and throw fastball-breaking ball and pitch in the big leagues, but I believe the Twins want him to develop into a starter, and to do that he's going to have to learn to slow the ball down a little." -- Grand Canyon coach Jose Marzan.

71. Cole Hamels, lhp, Phillies: "His changeup is one of the better ones I've seen. He has tremendous arm action and the ball just tumbles to the plate." -- Phillies catcher Mike Lieberthal.

72. Brandon Moss, of, Red Sox: "He's refined his overall approach at the plate and really worked hard to become a better hitter." -- Red Sox farm director Ben Cherington.

73. Clint Nageotte, rhp, Mariners : "He has one of the best sliders I've ever seen." -- AL scout.

74. Andy LaRoche, 3b, Dodgers: "He's got bat speed, strength in his hands and is a true profile at third base, offensively and defensively." -- AL scout.

75. Billy Butler, 3b, Royals: "He can do a lot of damage if he gets his pitch to hit. And every time we were there, when he did get his pitch to hit, he was able to do something with it." -- Royals scouting director Deric Ladnier.

76. Kendry Morales, of, Angels: "He's a middle-of-the-order hitter that's getting ready to play in the big leagues. He's on the big-league roster going into camp with a chance to win a job." -- Angels scouting director Eddie Bane.

77. Joaquin Arias, ss, Rangers: "One of the more exciting players around. Very high ceiling, but a long way to go." -- Bakersfield manager Arnie Beyeler.

78. Fred Lewis, of, Giants: "He's a tremendous athlete, but now he's also a baseball player." -- AL scout.

79. Guillermo Quiroz, c, Blue Jays: "He looks like a baby Pudge Rodriguez. He'll shut down the running game, and he has some power." -- NL scout.

80. Ezequiel Astacio, rhp, Astros: "Everything got better and more consistent last year. His fastball and curveball got harder, and he picked up a splitter overnight." -- NL scout.

81. Neil Walker, c, Pirates: "You wonder if he might be too athletic to stay behind the plate. He could play practically anywhere on the field." -- GCL Pirates manager Woody Huyke.

82. Ubaldo Jimenez, rhp, Rockies: "I drool at the mention of his name. He was right there with Matt Cain and Felix Hernandez in the Cal League before he got hurt." -- AL scout.

83. Brandon Wood, ss, Angels: "He's slender but he can jolt the ball, and he makes the plays at shortstop." -- AL scout.

84. Brad Snyder, of, Indians: "He's a strong, physical athlete that's going to be a tremendous big league player. He's the complete package that stands up and demands your attention." -- Kinston manager Torey Lovullo.

85. Mark Teahen, 3b, Royals: "He was probably the best third baseman in the Texas League. He's got the whole package as a guy who can hit and plays good defense at third." -- Frisco manager Tim Ireland.

86. Kyle Sleeth, rhp, Tigers: "This kid has a funky delivery, but he has great life on his fastball. He's got an idea of how to pitch." -- Tampa manager Billy Masse.

87. Joey Gathright, of, Devil Rays: "He's the kind of leadoff hitter that you don't run into much anymore." -- Buffalo manager Marty Brown.

88. Angel Guzman, rhp, Cubs: "He just needs to get healthy. He'll show you three plus-plus pitches at times." -- NL scout.

89. Russell Martin, c, Dodgers: "He's very advanced in all aspects defensively, but the thing we really got excited about was the way his bat came around in the Arizona Fall League." -- Dodgers scouting director Logan White.

90. Jeremy Sowers, lhp, Indians: "He locates everything well, especially the fastball. He automatically becomes one of the most polished pitchers in a system deep with arms." -- NL scout.

91. Jon Papelbon, rhp, Red Sox: "Papelbon may not be getting his due credit after such a strong year. On most nights, he features three plus pitches." -- Red Sox assistant general manager Josh Byrnes.

92. Jake Stevens, lhp, Braves: "He's got the fastball and changeup, but that curveball is so good that's the pitch you've got to watch for." -- Augusta manager Chad Epperson.

93. Richie Gardner, rhp, Reds: "He might have been the best guy I saw all year in terms of changing speeds." -- AL scout.

94. Hayden Penn, rhp, Orioles: "He can run his fastball inside, and broke a lot of bats. He had a lot of polish for the Sally League." -- Charleston (W.Va.) manager Ken Joyce.

95. Josh Fields, 3b, White Sox: "He was one of the better athletes available in the draft. We think he will be an impact guy at the major league level." -- White Sox senior director of player personnel Duane Shaffer

96. Tadahito Iguchi, 2b, White Sox: "The way he goes about the game, he's a perfect fit for what we need at the top of the order. He plays the game the right way. He plays it hard." -- White Sox general manager Ken Williams.

97. Huston Street, rhp, Athletics: "His velocity surprised me, and obviously his makeup is just off the charts." -- AL scout.

98. Ian Kinsler, ss, Rangers: "I managed Hank Blalock in the minors and Kinsler has the same approach." -- Clinton manager Carlos Subero.

99. Anthony Lerew, rhp, Braves: "He was up to 96, and it was an easy 96. It's easy power like Jose Capellan." -- Lynchburg pitching coach Scott Lovekamp.

100. Greg Miller, lhp, Dodgers: "He's going to be fine. We're going to make some corrections to make him more comfortable in his delivery." -- Dodgers farm director Terry Collins.
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PROSPECT BREAKDOWN
TOP 100 PROSPECTS
BY ORGANIZATION
7 Dodgers
6 Angels, Braves
5 Athletics, Brewers, Indians, White Sox
4 Cubs, Devil Rays, Mariners, Rangers, Rockies, Twins
3 Blue Jays, Diamondbacks, Giants, Mets, Phillies, Red Sox, Reds
2 Astros, Marlins, Orioles, Pirates, Royals, Tigers
1 Cardinals, Nationals, Padres, Yankees

BY ORIGINAL ORGANIZATION
9 Braves
8 Dodgers
6 Angels, White Sox
4 Athletics, Brewers, Cubs, Indians, Mets, Phillies, Rangers, Rockies, Twins
3 Blue Jays, Devil Rays, Diamondbacks, Mariners, Red Sox
2 Cardinals, Giants, Marlins, Orioles, Pirates, Reds, Tigers, Yankees
1 Astros, Nationals, Padres, Royals

BY NATION
78 United States
11 Dominican Republic
5 Venezuela
2 Canada
1 Cuba, Japan, Korea, Puerto Rico

BY HOW THEY WERE SIGNED
48 High school draft picks
29 College draft picks
19 International free agents
4 Junior college draft picks

BY DRAFT ROUND
43 First
5 Supplemental first round
10 Second
3 Third, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, 17th
1 Eighth, Ninth, 11th, 12th, 15th, 20th, 32nd, 39th

BY OPENING DAY AGE
24 age 21
22 age 22
16 age 20
14 age 23
9 age 19
8 age 24
3 age 18, age 25
1 age 30
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post Feb 28, 2005 -> 11:36 PM
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No complaints from me at all, I just think all this depleted farm system stuff needs to be put to rest.
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I menat depleted in a relative way. We are a mid farm system. I think the big problemis that we don't have a guy that is major league ready that is a star waiting to happen. Sweeney,Anderson and Bmac could be there by 06, and it's going to take time to figure where Allen, Lucy,Gio , Lumsden and Fields go. One thing is for sure in the business of prospects: Nothing is a given
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QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Feb 28, 2005 -> 11:46 PM)
I menat depleted in a relative way. We are a mid farm system. I think the big problemis that we don't have a guy that is major league ready that is a star waiting to happen. Sweeney,Anderson and Bmac could be there by 06, and it's going to take time to figure where Allen, Lucy,Gio , Lumsden and Fields go. One thing is for sure in the business of prospects: Nothing is a given
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Fair enough. I agree with what you said, though I guess Bmac and Anderson could be ready some time this year but hopefully we won't have to rush them.
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QUOTE(daa84 @ Feb 28, 2005 -> 07:02 PM)
baseball america just came out with 75-100 top prospects, Fields lands at 95 with Iguchi right behind him at 96. i guess you consider him a prospect. interestingly enough angel guzman has fallen to 88 for the scrubs, who will probably have only pie and dopirak in the top 100, sox should land anderson sweeney mccarthy and maybe tracey

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Guzman has arm trouble. You should see Anderson, Sweeney and Bmac all appear somewhere on the list. I don't anticipate Tracey or Young (the other two guys BA really likes) making the top 100, especially since they've already had 75-100. Heck, there is an outisde shot that Sweeney doesn't make it simply based on his production, but BA and most scouts tend to rave about Ryan.
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QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 28, 2005 -> 09:47 PM)
Fair enough.  I agree with what you said, though I guess Bmac and Anderson could be ready some time this year but hopefully we won't have to rush them.
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Bmac is on the brink and I guess you could make a case for Anderson being there as well. Personally I think any guy within a years time given a good growht earns that right. I still think Anderson is farther away then most, but he's gonna be a good one.

Bmac's gonna be at worse a good #3 and I still think he's got ace potential if his velocity develops and even if it doesn't can be a good #2, but I've long been very high on Bmac. I like guys that can throw strikes and know where to put the ball. He can do that and mixes things up well.

Edited by danman for ridiculously bad grammar by Jason. 'I like guys who no where to put the ball?' You have to be really out of it to write that. How do you confuse no with know? /End rant

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In comparing the Sox and the twins guys, one thing stands out: the twins are depending on their guys like Mauer, Crain and Durbin to help them out now in order to win, the sox need their prospects to help out in the near future, yet can win now without them.

Putting all that pressure on the young kids is dangerous. Too many bad things can happen such as injuries, slow development, etc that make depending on the farm system for a teams major league success risky. With Mauer [who knows if he can stay healthy catching] and Kubel hurt, it shows some cracks in the Twins "armor"
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jw how you got the entire list?
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a guy who knows a guy posted it on a different board

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 1, 2005 -> 12:40 AM)
Edited by danman for ridiculously bad grammar by Jason. 'I like guys who no where to put the ball?' You have to be really out of it to write that. How do you confuse no with know? /End rant
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Give him a break, he was speaking Ozzie.
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QUOTE(TLAK @ Mar 1, 2005 -> 08:22 PM)
Give him a break, he was speaking Ozzie.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'll give you credit for the Ozzie remark, but I never let up on Jason. Besides, if I didn't do it, Heads would have (if he saw it).
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