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I understand what Benetti asked for and why the Sox were not in agreement. Benetti just became too valuable of a commodity to restrict his work to one team. Good for him. Schriff is a relative youngster in his profession. I give him a lot of credit for trying to fill the shoes of Benetti, one of the best in the country who built a local following here in his home town.
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If there was one substantive aspect at which Mead was decent, much less excelled, I could see it. But Mead has no power, Ks too much, doesn't walk; and while he's probably a better defender than Sosa, he's still a below par defender. In the minors, his batting average kept him afloat. He just doesn't make enough contact for that to carry to the majors though. Sosa hit 22 homers last season; nothing in Mead's background suggests he can come close to that. If someone wants to give us a nice return for Sosa, then fine; but expecting Mead to do anything is a real prayer. As of now, I like the "have Sosa shag balls in left" idea.
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Because you are using a rate instead of actual production? It is an argument over back of the roster players with zero value. If you need to win on Mead, have at it. I will be here hopefully for actual decent players.
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Benintendi is always the problem, haha. Maybe you could get playing time for both Sosa and Mead at LF and DH if Benintendi was not here. But then again, Benintendi could also outperform both guys. Quite the conundrum. So maybe a trade makes sense even more due to the roster crunch, even with the risk involved. Benintendi isn’t going anywhere.
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MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It’s wild you can’t admit you were wrong on this one point and continue to deflect and move the goalposts. -
MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
100% it only makes sense if there is both a return you like for Sosa and you think there are some ways to fix Mead. But right now, Sosa is not going to get a ton of playing time (baring injury) and unlikely to maintain his value unless you find a way to get him more at-bats (and all for the OF idea, but not convinced yet the Sox are considering it). -
I don’t think so either — at least enough value to make it worth trading him.
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All for a dude who you hope to be as good as Lenyn? Cool. That's all you and Chris.
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I honestly don't think Sosa has any real trade value either. All bat, no D guys only have a market if they are HUGE hitters, and definitely more lefty than righty.
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MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
There is no hangup. You suggested that Sosa showed vastly better power in the minors, which is simply not true. You also suggested that Mead (who is a former top 35 BA prospect) is dead in the water because of 500 bad plate appearances in the majors despite the guy you’re comparing him to also sucking in his first 500 PA’s and then somehow getting better. -
It was pretty good. The random craziness is a bit unbelievable but I guess that’s why it’s a movie.
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The Future of the White Sox TV Broadcast Team
WhiteSox2023 replied to palehose1's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I don’t know how accurate Baseball Reference is but they have him earning $887,500 total in his entire MLB career from 1973 to 1982. I’m sure he also made some money from incentives and bonuses as well. He probably made some money from his Playgirl shoot too. 🤣 Obviously the value of a dollar was a lot higher back then so if he invested wisely, he should be fine. I’m sure he has made more money in his second career as a sportscaster than his playing days. -
I can see both sides of the argument. If you can get a decent return for Sosa, perhaps it may be worth it to deal him and give Mead more playing time since he can play all the same positions as Sosa and has had success hitting in the minors. However, Sosa actually hit in the majors last year while Mead has yet to do so. If you trade Sosa and go with Mead, you may not get much out of it. Sosa may not bring much back and Mead could continue to flounder. Also, Mead only has one more year of control than Sosa. I guess it would all depend on the potential return for Sosa to assess whether the above risk is worth taking.
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The Future of the White Sox TV Broadcast Team
Stinky Stanky replied to palehose1's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Or the Orioles where he got the Cy Young. If he needs the bucks at his age he did some dumb stuff along the way. -
I don't know what the hang up on Mead is here, but have at it. I honestly can't wait until we are actually good again so that other people's garbage quits looking so damned attractive.
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MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
So the guy who has been healthier and has hit more HR’s due to more PA’s has somehow demonstrated more power than the guy with higher ISO. Got it. -
The fact he has a history of actually hitting homers.
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MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Sosa showed a lot more power in the minors? Based on what metric? Age 20 season: Mead = .212 ISO | N/A - Covid Age 21 season: Mead = .208 ISO | Sosa = .131 ISO Age 22 season: Mead = .215 ISO | Sosa = .197 ISO Age 23 season: Mead = .192 ISO | Sosa = .236 ISO And thanks for ignoring the “cashing in on Sosa” and “limited role for 2026” points that are pretty important to the hypothetical. -
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White Sox sign Jarred Kelenic, non-roster invite
WhiteSox2023 replied to Sleepy Harold's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Thus is the life of a Sox fan. However, if Shaw is already considered to be a dumpster dive, then the Sox don’t have much hope. -
White Sox sign Jarred Kelenic, non-roster invite
Chicago White Sox replied to Sleepy Harold's topic in Pale Hose Talk
We traded for Periera and gave him a 40 man roster spot. Baldwin hit too good down the stretch to not get consistent at-bats somewhere and the lack of reps in the OF last year shouldn’t be used against him IMO. And then you have Hill who was also tendered and given a 40 man spot. If we assume Benintendi is the LF, it’s actually kind of a filled OF but with room for someone to overtake Periera or Hill. If they plan to make Benintendi mostly DH, then Kelenic’s chance to make the OD roster vastly improve. This is all assuming no other additions either. Don’t get me wrong, I could see Kelenic making the OD roster, but I don’t think it should be expected. And I don’t think that conflicts with Kelenic looking at the guys in front of him and saying “Chicago is my best spot for a major league job” with no guarantees he will got one. The reality is everyone ahead of him was some combo of good in the majors or AAA last year and he wasn’t. To me, it should be a cut and dry uphill battle for him to make the team, but one not impossible to imagine. -
If it was they certainly need an editor. Most of this really needs to be looked at in film because of the small sample size. Good advanced scouting will help fine tune the approach to each pitcher. What would be malpractice would be to have him passive to build a pitch count or see a pitcher. If the plate discipline issues become a thing then maybe you tone him down a bit on first strike, but a guy that misses 20% more than league average when he chases cannot give away free strikes. If I can find the time I’ll try and watch some his ABs to check it out.
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Sosa also showed a lot more power in the minors. I am not sure why everyone else's dumpster is so much more attractive than the dumpster we already know, but sure.
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Some lusted after this dude for the White Sox
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MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox
Chicago White Sox replied to WestEddy's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Because right now this is a very limited role and theoretically you’re cashing in on Sosa and replacing him with a guy who might offer similar production (eventually) who you will otherwise lose for nothing. Also, you’re ignoring the fact that Sosa has an additional season of development and was just as bad as Mead was before this past season. If 500 PA’s is some sort of death sentence for a young player, it should have been for Sosa as well.
