WestEddy

I'm not sure where you're going with this. My point was that the only scouting group that seems to have had success in the last few years is the amateur scouting for the draft. They probably had full work-ups on Teel and Montgomery. It has been discussed previously that Eloy's goofball tendencies were probably known in the Cubs org, and they were happy to include him in the Quintana deal, just as Boston held onto Devers and let Yoan go.

Thanks for posting that podcast. Will give it a listen.

When Hahn was trading for top 5 in the game prospects, I'm wondering how well guys like Eloy and Yoan were scouted. Teel and Montgomery were scouted by the FO group that has not embarrassed themselves in the last few years, amateur scouting.

I'm 61, so calm down. No, YOU got really lucky to live during a time that Jerry Reinsdorf put together a championship MLB team, and 6 NBA titles. The concept of "tanking" is relatively new. Before, a team just got bad, tried to appease vocally negative fans by making bad moves that chased after an extra win or two, and stayed bad. Reinsdorf owned the team when Larry Himes started climbing out of a 69-92 hole in 1989. They drafted and signed their way out of that. Schueler added a few key pieces, and built that 1993 team. That's what you kids would call a rebuild today. When they hit 75-86 in 1999, they were already into a rebuild. Ask your grandpa about it, but boy did Sox fans scream when they traded established veterans for rookies in 1997. That "rebuild" led to the 2000 playoff run, and then the 2005 World Series. I'm flattered that you thought my post was so smart and spot on that God, Himself, must have directed me to post that. I assure you, that wasn't the case. I get considering your own attitude "show me". That's fair. It's silly when we feel we have to go to superlatives ("absolutely zero evidence", "incompetent") to stave off a wave of negative pushback that is not anchored in what we're actually watching happen. You're welcome for the knowledge.

Yes there is. The Sox rebuilt in the late 90's and they won a World Series. It's more wish-casting to be proclaiming that a guy who has taken a massive, positive first step in a rebuild is like a child in a glass shop.

Of course he does. It's a rebuild of the entire organization. The goal probably looks more like a healthy company somebody wants to buy as a "plug and play", rather than a championship by a certain date, tho I wouldn't rule that out, either.

Manager - Pat Leyland Pitching Coach - Blake Hickman Hitting Coach - Cam Seitzer Bench Coach - Pat Listach Performance Coach - Logan Jones Athletic Trainer - Austin Smith

He got rid of Grifol's guys.

If that transition ever happens, it's not going to be in 2025, unless they trade Robert for our future shortstop.

Beckham played 3B exclusively in his first season, then he was parked at 2B for the next 4 years. In that 4th season as 2B, he played 6 innings over two games at SS when Alexei Ramirez was subbed out.

What are you even talking about? They paid and locked up Eloy, Yoan and Luis Robert. You guys repeat this nonsense so much like facts don't even exist.

Jesus, we act like every baseball player's a quivering mass of broken psyche jello, and one bad game will ruin him for life. He had a back injury this last year which affected his mobility. He also had a personal issue that he played through.

Montgomery is going to come up as a shortstop. He's not going to move to 3B after 4 games. He'll get the rest of his rookie season to play shortstop. Rojas has a one year deal.

Thanks for posting.

I have no idea what these strings are pointing to. Are they all strings about the Front Office speaking positively about the future? I can't imagine being continuously surprised that a corporate spokesperson doesn't sound like a drunken, angry fan cloaked by the anonymity of the internet.

Mike Shirley was hired by the old regime, and seems to be part of the decision making team, now. I guess he sucks, now, too.

You mean how many teams with a bad 1B would be "lining up" to sign an equally bad 1B so that they have 2 bad 1B? I'm sure the number would be zero. I'm sure the Pirates will be buoyed by Anthony Rizzo's history of good production. LOL.

And outside people seem to be speaking well of what Getz is doing. I don't really remember too many people praising Hahn. KW was kind of made out as a dupe in Moneyball, and an intolerable a-hole in other reporting about his dealings with players. Hahn didn't get much separation from that.

He explained that pretty thoroughly. Sometimes, the problem isn't the line of coaches a team chews through, it's the fundamental approach of the team. It's not so black and white as, "the team didn't hit, the coach must have turned stupid". If coaches are so interchangeable, then maybe shoring up communication between departments, and targeting the use of analytics could be the problem, regardless of who the coach is.

Fair enough. I'll be wrong on this one.

Vaughn needed a year or two in the minors to not be ass with the glove. That's not even manipulation.

My point isn't that Henderson is now bad, it's that offense does go on a 2 day vacation while you still need top level starting pitching in the playoffs.

Not when he goes 0-7 in a 2 game playoff series.