WestEddy

I think everybody here agrees that Tim Elko is most likely not a major league hitter. Rereading my comments, the worst I said about Tim Elko was that the Sox don't need to see him go to the plate without a plan and strikeout - for 4 months - to say that he had a shot. All I did was put a name on the notion that the White Sox may take a shortstop if they get a high draft pick. They just took 4 shortstops in their top 11 picks in the 2025 draft. I don't think it's a stretch to draw from that a propensity to stick to the most athletic player on the diamond and move the weakest to other positions in next year's draft. I am truly sorry for confusing you with the thought that I might believe next year's draft already took place, and they drafted Cholowsky.

I agree with most of this. They're upgrading everything, beefing up minor league hitting with coordinators and coaches. At some point, they have to develop a power hitter, right?

Is that a "problem"? It's a baseball message board. If you're referring to me, I mentioned two names, then said, "We'll see if they can develop them". You seem to make up things to kill discussions over. Please explain what the "problem" is, because you're pointing out things that didn't happen. Do you not like too much baseball talk on a baseball message board?

Apparently, you don't know the new rule - you can't assume anything about the future because that's not "based in reality". Unless you're a seasoned professional, of course...

So when you say the Sox won't be competitive until 2030, you babbling like some other famous commenter here with no basis in reality? Because in case nobody's told you, 2030 hasn't happened, yet. Dude, you pick the weirdest s%*# to melt down over.

A play in 3 acts: ss2k5: You know you CAN draft power hitters anywhere in the draft right? me: The Sox have drafted guys like DePino and Wolkow. We'll see if they can develop them. ss2k5: So we are in your ridiculous phase. fin

The White Sox have taken power bats they just haven't drafted one dimensional power bats in the top rounds for the past couple years. The Sox have 3 shortstops in the system, and might get a top draft pick this year, where a couple shortstops head the prospect lists. Sorry to confuse you with hypotheticals. I'm glad you think the most important position on the diamond is irrelevant. Maybe that's why you hate GMs who think the shortstop will still be around for a few years. The Sox have drafted guys like DePino and Wolkow. We'll see if they can develop them.

No, Holden, I mean the words that I said. Getz was not GM when those three were drafted, and Shirley wasn't the scouting director. FWIW, you should probably look over the last couple of drafts before your barrel into a convo with non-sequiturs.

No. They've shown their philosophy of drafting up the middle. The shortstops and CFers who can't move the best off those positions will move to 3B, 2B, RF and LF. The guys who can't play those will be 1B then DH. Vaughn has shown it's a waste of a top draft choice to draft a one-tool 1B in the first round. Jac Caglianone doesn't refute that.

I find it funny that everybody kvetches that they don't get straight talk from the front office, and when they do, they fall down on the sidewalk and cry. He was right about Himes. Shoot, I'm a Sox fan, and I'm pissed for Cub fans about Maddux going to the Braves and Ryno retiring for a couple of years. And it was only after Himes was gone that Al Goldis drafted Kerry Wood.

Which of Colson Montgomery, Billy Carlson, Roch Cholowsky and Caleb Bonemer is unqualified to play 1B?

Nobody said he didn't build a great team. If was any bit the psycho on the White Sox as he was with the Cubs, it was Reinsdorf's duty to warn the rest of the world. Maddux wanted to stay with the Cubs. Ryno walked away from the game because of him. Was that Reinsdorf making up those stories?

Ramos making the roster out of spring training is kind of a longshot. If he does, he's the best defensive 3B on the team right now (maybe equal to Monty).

only if he wore Florsheim wingtips to the plate.

Sure. But my question is - should you be drafting and developing 1B? Use that draft pick on some CC hitting outfielder and bounce your Ryan Galanies over there until a true power hitter comes along. Our Venezuelan shortstops seemed to have moved to 1B quickly as they bulked up. Drunken, World Series commercial naval gazing - if you're doing it right, you're going to have the shortstops and centerfielders who grow out of the position, and the one hitter who can't field can concentrate on 1B.

So with the Cubs, Larry Himes was a hot-headed psychopath who blew apart the team with his "personality", but he was unfairly fired from the White Sox solely because he wouldn't kiss JR's heinie? LOL. Which team was it that takes swipes at an employee's reputation when they're fired? 2 funny.

Should they? Why can't they repurpose the worst fielding, best hitting outfield prospect? Right now, Galanie and Caden Connor are the AAAA first-basemen on the clock. They don't have as much power but probably strike out less.

GMs generally don't generally get plate appearances in games.

Weird how Himes didn't win big time with the Cubs.

No, they aren't. But Elko is a poor man's Andy Wilkins. He's a AAAA slugger.

the true irony is that the one guy who most likely finally got Reinsdorf to invest in the right things is the one everybody hates and wants gone yesterday. Moar Ron Schueller!!

For as overmatched as Elko looked, he got a nice loooooooong chance. As I responded to WSBFW, the Sox didn't need to watch the guy look like a blindfolded child wailing at a piñata for 4 months in order to see what they had. Every single player move doesn't need to implicate the White Sox as big meanies.

I was told that the goal posts should move, and real sports fans should expect more and more from their team. Seems like all the old guys loved missing the World Series every year after '59. Is that emoji the clown who gave you balloons in the stands instead of World Series Championships? And hey, a quick search tells me that guys like Seaver and Carlton were 16 around 1960. Why wasn't Veeck scouting and signing them? Was he too busy at the circus scouting the next year's distraction from him missing the World Series again?

lol