WestEddy

They're all "prospect rankings". I'm not sure where your question comes from. No rankings guarantee success. Yet, while claiming a prospect is a "bum", just because, the rankings do introduce an air of credibility around a player's prospect. But because a player isn't rank high doesn't mean he can't develop.

How much of a troll do you have to be to roll into a thread celebrating the 20 year anniversary of the WS victory, and start babbling your "White Sox sux" BS? You literally have thousands of strings here to whine about how the White Sox aren't dominating baseball, and you choose a celebration of 2005 to complain? My 43-year-old brother died 6 years before this, and the World Series was a very emotional catharsis for my family. Everything isn't about you. I guess I'm making this about me. Sorry. Said in my own voice.

What are you even talking about? None of this has anything to do with my comment you're responding to.

And you've played zero.

Ratings are a snapshot. They're not something to be attained, they're just a photo of what some "scouts" think of your system. Fajardo, matt Thompson, Cristian Mena, Aaron Combs, Luis Rodriguez, - none of these guys would have helped this team, and none have helped their new teams yet. I haven't seen anybody wonder here whether Will Venable could have motivated that Reds team to finish four games over 500 and make the playoffs on a participation seed. I may even be the first here to suggest that Francona's "manager's war" added a win to the Red's effort and got them past the Mets. Again, the discussion was that when Francona managed the Sox to a 60-102 record, or a 61-101 record, the usual suspects would not have praised Francona for his managerial prowess, and Getz for his wisdom in hiring Francona.

Players don't get paid during a strike or lockout. I think the hesitation would be for teams to see how any changes to the CBA roll out pertaining to salary caps and so forth. there's probably also a collusion-y agreement to not sign anybody in that 3 weeks between the end of the world series and the lockout.

Having dudes to pitch in the major league bullpen probably trumps a guy who was coming back slow from his injury, and most probably would have not lasted 90 days on the major league roster, thus pushing his Rule 5 status to the next season. I'm guessing Getz decided to cut bait. Perhaps you would have rather the Sox lost 125 games because they were short a man in the bullpen. Seeing how that 121 losses eats at you on a daily basis, I'm sure you'd appreciate Getz trying to get a better option on the major league roster than a rehabbing Rule 5 pick who wasn't tearing it up at the moment. But by all means, please tell me how a guy who was walking 9 per 9 IP at AAA could have been easily retained. I'm not sure what Cam Booser has to do with this. As far as the rest, you seem to be throwing sand in the sandbox because you don't want anybody comparing Will Venable to Terry Francona. I'll put the same question to you, Do you actually think that Terry Francona would have taken the 2025 White Sox team to the playoffs? That seems silly.

FanGraphs had him at #41 on their Red Sox prospects list. Thanks for pointing out another Getz development success. I hope he does better than Matthew Thompson or Cristian Mena, your last guaranteed ROY candidates.

Thus, proving my point that some pitching prospects go unprotected. Thank you, Holden.

I believe players become unrestricted free agents the day after the World Series ends, but can't sign with anyone for 5 days, and the current CBA expires on December 1, 2026.

He's a lefty who put up a WHIP of 1.007 and an ERA of 2.27 at AAA. Yes, he's a pitching prospect.

Apparently, they are.

Where has anybody said any of that? If you want to get on me for anything I said, like saying the 2024 bullpen was "lockdown", or calling Shane Drohan a pitching prospect (although you should look at his line at AAA for the Red Sox before you make fun of that), have at it. I don't think the guy's salivating at putting Chris Getz' name on his resume, but I could see working in a wide open environment under Brian Bannister as an exciting career move, and why wouldn't it be? Oh, Drohan - Shane Drohan College, Amateur & Minor Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com

A postseason berth is phenomenal for the Reds, and would be for the White Sox, too. You should probably take pictures of these strings, then take notes on the Polaroids and keep them in your pocket, as we have to tell you the same thing over and over and over. 60 wins is a benchmark, it was my highest expectation for the season, and they met it. I don't know why I should think that's bad. You seem to think mocking simple facts cancels them out, but this is a rebuild. If you thought the organization Getz took over in August of 2023 was capable of posting a .500 record in 2024, and of making the playoffs this season, I can't fathom the level of delusional you occupy.

What "same point" are you talking about? The comparison was between Francona and Venable. The reference to TLR was in passing. I'm really not understanding your point at all. Are you really policing whether people can mention two managers in the same comment? I mean, surely you're not saying that Chris Getz did such a great job assembling a roster that a truly masterful Terry Francona could have made the playoffs with it.

I didn't have an argument, here. My argument is the "are we actually comparing [x] and [y]" is a nonsense deflection. Pretty much all baseball talk is about comparing players, teams and eras. I am surprise you would barrel in and shoehorn your same "I hate Chris Getz" BS into every single string. Maybe just pay attention to the discussion and participate in that? And seriously, when a team squeezes into the playoffs with 83 wins, there was nothing "tough" about their path.

It's a joke, I'm making.

Are we actually comparing Tony LaRussa and Max Muncy now?

You're not in the game thread.

The actual comparison was "what if Francona was hired and put up the same season as Venable"? If he put up the same 60-102, nrockway surmised people would wail about the game having passed Francona like they did with TLR. TLR and Francona were not "compared".

Are we actually comparing Connie Mack to today's managers? Wow.

Yeah, one's in the HOF, and the other probably will be. How crazy for them to be mentioned in the same string.

Venable was a great hire. There's really no arguing that.