WestEddy

What "same point" are you talking about? The comparison was between Francona and Venable. The reference to TLR was in passing. I'm really not understanding your point at all. Are you really policing whether people can mention two managers in the same comment? I mean, surely you're not saying that Chris Getz did such a great job assembling a roster that a truly masterful Terry Francona could have made the playoffs with it.

I didn't have an argument, here. My argument is the "are we actually comparing [x] and [y]" is a nonsense deflection. Pretty much all baseball talk is about comparing players, teams and eras. I am surprise you would barrel in and shoehorn your same "I hate Chris Getz" BS into every single string. Maybe just pay attention to the discussion and participate in that? And seriously, when a team squeezes into the playoffs with 83 wins, there was nothing "tough" about their path.

It's a joke, I'm making.

Are we actually comparing Tony LaRussa and Max Muncy now?

You're not in the game thread.

The actual comparison was "what if Francona was hired and put up the same season as Venable"? If he put up the same 60-102, nrockway surmised people would wail about the game having passed Francona like they did with TLR. TLR and Francona were not "compared".

Are we actually comparing Connie Mack to today's managers? Wow.

Yeah, one's in the HOF, and the other probably will be. How crazy for them to be mentioned in the same string.

Venable was a great hire. There's really no arguing that.

Weird. Neither of those guys would have helped the bullpen in the last two years. And if Mena has his current shoulder woes with the White Sox, you and Liptak would be dancing around and high fiving each other over how another White Sox player was injured.

You would have argued with it, anyway. Sure, Francona was more coveted than Venable.

Hyperbole personified. Pretending to laugh, golf clap or being a mini-me hasn't disproven a thing I've written.

Yes, paying a guy $3M who would have worked for scale proves that JR is cheap.

it's a weird take that some of the most competitive people on the planet walk into a job thinking, "Yeah, I can f*** up for years and still get paid to play Wordle at work". Something tells me you have no grasp of the motivation of the people who take sports front office jobs. and Jesus, how is it NOT impressive that the most coveted managerial candidate jumped at the Sox job? Just repeating the same thing multiple times across multiple threads daily doesn't make it true.

The most generous I can be is to imagine there was harm threatened to loved ones. You're not going to trick the casinos. d

You didn't say the Sox were cheap. You made a bunch of lazy assertions, most of which were wrong. Venable was the "it" girl of managerial candidates that winter. All the people I listed were not "jobless" when the Sox hired them. Gellinger is paid too well for another organization to easily hire him away. Sure, if the Marlins had to have Venable, the Sox probably had a ceiling of what they'd pay, and they'd have moved on to their secondary candidate.

Why would you say this? They pried Venable, Bannister, Walker McKinven and Joel McKeithan from jobs. Another team looked at Mike Gellinger as a hitting coach, and he was already too highly paid to increase his salary.

I haven't seen anything beyond this one set of listicles dropping a bunch of names: 10 potential candidates to become the next White Sox hitting coach | Sox On 35th 10 potential candidates to become the next White Sox pitching coach | Sox On 35th

Thinking Elko has any trade value is "head over heels". Hitting a HR off a mistake pitch doesn't make somebody MLB-ready. Elko looked seriously overmatched in his at-bats. After being sent back down to Charlotte and called up again, he still had no clue in his 3 pitch strike outs. He did get a decent chance here. He failed miserably. "A chance" doesn't mean 3 solid months of hitting .041 as a starter. Tim Elko is not a major league player, and he has no trade value.

Good accounting of the paperwork the White Sox have before them right now. Our own @ChiSoxFanMike gets name-checked. Offseason Outlook: Chicago White Sox - MLB Trade Rumors

It hit the yellow line after his mitt. Isn't that a HR?

19 HRs in AA or AAA in each of the last 3 seasons. He's an interesting lefty bat who hasn't clicked. There's always that catch.

For real. While the rest of the league plays checkers the Pirates are ... chewing frayed lamp cords?