WestEddy

Isn't the premise of the TV show House that every patient lies?

Even taking Crochet and Fedde into account, I think they enter '25 with a stronger and more reliable rotation (1-5) than they did in '24.

the "maybe even" indicates that I didn't consider him to be among the guys who would obviously be dealt.

54. I got overly exuberant in the bold predictions thread and yelled out 60, but they're just not going to score enough runs, and if they do, Drury, Robert, Tauchman, Thaiss, maybe even Vaughn will be out the door sooner than later.

And if they held him out, y'all would have clucked at how lazy and unmotivated he was.

He kind of crossed the line with the Bush and Carella TJS announcements. Couldn't contain his glee and called it "karma", for some reason. I read the comments. When a small bunch of people descend into a hateful muck, criticizing every aspect of a baseball team, it kind of hurts to put that garbage in your head. I try to "ignore" the people who do nothing but, but some strings just explode with invective over an injury.

Not a sex act.

Sports medicine is, in itself, questionable. The whole purpose is to patch up players and get them back onto the field. There is an entire genre of non-fiction that tells players' stories of their journey through the system. Yes, tell us about White Sox specific incidents of abuse. But people crowing over a broken toe, and "laughing their asses off" over a non-medical spokesperson surmising at the time of the incident that a sprain occurred, then further testing revealing it to be a fracture has nothing to do with the stories of abuse. A few of the TJS strings here are a group of people yelling at me that the White Sox should be cutting open pitchers' arms at the first sign of a twinge so that they're not "lying" to grumpy fans (who will consider themselves lied to no matter what transpires). I'll wait for an actual misdiagnosis until I declare it so.

No, you wouldn't be. Those of us trying to inject reason into the "LMFAO!!!" discussions were the first to admit that. When you finally admit to this, you would be, maybe, the one thousandth or so to finally admit it. The perception exists because of people like you who are announcing to the world you are laughing your ass off at another injury, and then a bunch of grumps join in and create the perception of incompetence. The drug was neither "questionable" nor "illegal". I would think that somebody with your particular relationship to journalism would understand how inappropriate it is to imply he's injecting something illegal into an athlete. The trainer (one of a group of professional trainers who have been disciplined) skipped a step and administered the medication himself, rather than waiting for a licensed practitioner to arrive and do it.

I guess you have Liptak's comments on "ignore". Dude is absolutely gleeful whenever there's an injury. I can't count up the other "LMFAO!!!" comments whenever there's an injury. Maybe I'm the weirdo, and the appropriate thing to do when somebody tells me they had an accident and broke their arm is to bust out laughing in their face. I find it amazing that the grumps don't compute that maybe somebody feels a twinge in their off-season throwing program, and since they're 3 weeks away from reporting, they're told to wait until they get to the best facilities in the organization to check them out. Everything doesn't have to get smooshed into the same, tired narrative.

"Giving the benefit of the doubt" is moronic? ok

How is it that everyone who disagrees with you must be "washing Getz's balls", fluffing players, or whatever sex acts that spring into your addled mind? Am I to assume that your job is to stand in an alley and "reward" anybody who agrees with you that Getz is a bad GM? As has been explained multiple times, 2 different ownership groups. I don't care about the Bulls. Maybe you can find one of his Real Estate holding companies, and tell me about their vacation policies. I'm sure that would "fluff" your narrative.

That's an amazing admission by you. Congratulations on recognizing that a bunch of grumps cheering for injuries is the dirt standard for fact-based, injury-related analysis. Now that we've established that mopes who want pro athletes to immediately go under the knife without consultation at the first twinge in their arm - have no idea what they're talking about, maybe we can admit that their jeering the immediate guess that a player has a sprain (as he's limping off the field) and the eventual, correct diagnosis should hold zero weight, whatsoever.

I was asking a question. And yeah, the next time I see Luol Deng on the el, I'll tell him he was making "it" up. L(u)oL. Please tell me what "underlying data" I'm relying on. The fact that the team x-rayed his foot and found the problem tells me they know way more about player health than random posters on a Sox board. Can you direct me to the topic string where all the people who call for TJS immediately after a pitcher has elbow pain are mocked for their terrible record of dealing with player injuries?

Great brown-nosing. Why do I care about the Bulls?

I would think the people making the claims that the White Sox are so much worse than the rest of the league could provide the numbers they're relying on. I will confidently correct you and say it is not equally moronic to call out blow-hards mocking an organization for things they're making up in their heads. I'll back up my claims and say that zero teams x-ray players on the field. Your turn.

When was Luol Deng on the Sox?

I like how a guy who is part of the collective that should be fired and cleared out by a new regime to get rid of the "losing stink" of the old, suddenly becomes a sage baseball evaluator when he casts doubt on anything the Sox did.

It's weird how the people who want the team to immediately call for TJS when a pitcher feels elbow discomfort also mock the team for initial guesses at what might be wrong with an injured player.

I think he's secretly wishing for a Sox player to get paralyzed so that he can gloat about how morally superior he is by assigning blame to Jerry Reinsdorf. Guy who runs a team poorly = evil Guy who posts laughing emojis on injury news = good

Nobody is claiming that 70 and 120 are the same number. It's not crazy to expect a pitcher who threw 70 innings from the middle of June through the end of 2024 to throw 120 innings in a full season. Garrett Crochet threw 146 while never seeing the 5th inning after June 30th. I suppose every pitcher in a Sox uniform could forget how to pitch, and all get shelled every single game. It's probably as likely that each of about 8-10 competent pitchers continue to pitch as they have for their short careers.

Of course not. They're different pitchers.

Who's not being realistic? Burke has a high ceiling. He had more of a starting pitching repertoire going into his opening day than Crochet did. Crochet's the better pitcher. Nobody debates that. Crochet being a better pitcher doesn't mean that nobody will ever be a good pitcher again. If it was up to you and your group of "experts", Crochet would be starting this year in AAA, building his workload up to a 2025 ceiling of maybe 120 innings. So, you didn't even think Crochet was Crochet a year ago.

Crochet wasn't that, either. He threw 3 nice starts, then fell apart for the next 3. Took some retooling to get him back on track.