WestEddy

"Giving the benefit of the doubt" is moronic? ok

How is it that everyone who disagrees with you must be "washing Getz's balls", fluffing players, or whatever sex acts that spring into your addled mind? Am I to assume that your job is to stand in an alley and "reward" anybody who agrees with you that Getz is a bad GM? As has been explained multiple times, 2 different ownership groups. I don't care about the Bulls. Maybe you can find one of his Real Estate holding companies, and tell me about their vacation policies. I'm sure that would "fluff" your narrative.

That's an amazing admission by you. Congratulations on recognizing that a bunch of grumps cheering for injuries is the dirt standard for fact-based, injury-related analysis. Now that we've established that mopes who want pro athletes to immediately go under the knife without consultation at the first twinge in their arm - have no idea what they're talking about, maybe we can admit that their jeering the immediate guess that a player has a sprain (as he's limping off the field) and the eventual, correct diagnosis should hold zero weight, whatsoever.

I was asking a question. And yeah, the next time I see Luol Deng on the el, I'll tell him he was making "it" up. L(u)oL. Please tell me what "underlying data" I'm relying on. The fact that the team x-rayed his foot and found the problem tells me they know way more about player health than random posters on a Sox board. Can you direct me to the topic string where all the people who call for TJS immediately after a pitcher has elbow pain are mocked for their terrible record of dealing with player injuries?

Great brown-nosing. Why do I care about the Bulls?

I would think the people making the claims that the White Sox are so much worse than the rest of the league could provide the numbers they're relying on. I will confidently correct you and say it is not equally moronic to call out blow-hards mocking an organization for things they're making up in their heads. I'll back up my claims and say that zero teams x-ray players on the field. Your turn.

When was Luol Deng on the Sox?

I like how a guy who is part of the collective that should be fired and cleared out by a new regime to get rid of the "losing stink" of the old, suddenly becomes a sage baseball evaluator when he casts doubt on anything the Sox did.

It's weird how the people who want the team to immediately call for TJS when a pitcher feels elbow discomfort also mock the team for initial guesses at what might be wrong with an injured player.

I think he's secretly wishing for a Sox player to get paralyzed so that he can gloat about how morally superior he is by assigning blame to Jerry Reinsdorf. Guy who runs a team poorly = evil Guy who posts laughing emojis on injury news = good

Nobody is claiming that 70 and 120 are the same number. It's not crazy to expect a pitcher who threw 70 innings from the middle of June through the end of 2024 to throw 120 innings in a full season. Garrett Crochet threw 146 while never seeing the 5th inning after June 30th. I suppose every pitcher in a Sox uniform could forget how to pitch, and all get shelled every single game. It's probably as likely that each of about 8-10 competent pitchers continue to pitch as they have for their short careers.

Of course not. They're different pitchers.

Who's not being realistic? Burke has a high ceiling. He had more of a starting pitching repertoire going into his opening day than Crochet did. Crochet's the better pitcher. Nobody debates that. Crochet being a better pitcher doesn't mean that nobody will ever be a good pitcher again. If it was up to you and your group of "experts", Crochet would be starting this year in AAA, building his workload up to a 2025 ceiling of maybe 120 innings. So, you didn't even think Crochet was Crochet a year ago.

Crochet wasn't that, either. He threw 3 nice starts, then fell apart for the next 3. Took some retooling to get him back on track.

The person not to be taken seriously is the one throwing around more strawmen than the wicked witch's flying monkeys.

Hot dog eating.

James Shields was the most recent one that sticks in my craw.

Why can't you imagine a staff of Cannon (161), B. Wilson (102), Thorpe (102), Burke (90), S. Smith (94) and Davis Martin (70) throwing 120 IP each? That's 4 IP for 30 games. You're saying that none of these guys are major league pitchers and won't be able to handle pitching loads they just threw last year. This also presupposes they all will completely forget how to pitch to major league hitters. That seems fanciful.

Sosa hits 20 HRs. Drury, Robert, Perez, Booser, B. Wilson, Murfee, Tauchman all traded by the TDL. Vargas puts up 110 RC+. Davis Martin - All-Star rep. Colson up in May, 2+ bWAR by end of year. 60 wins.

Lineup looks strikingly opening-day-ish LF CF RF DH P 22-Feb Colas Robert Tauchman Dalbec Shuster 23-Feb Benintendi Taylor Slater Baldwin Gilbert 24-Feb Fletcher Robert Tauchman Drury S. Smith 25-Feb Benintendi Taylor Slater Lee Martin 26-Feb Julks Robert Tauchman Gallo Burke 27-Feb Taylor Robert Slater Benintendi Perez 28-Feb Julks Fletcher Tauchman Gallo Cannon 1-Mar Slater Robert Veras Drury S. Smith 2-Mar Colas Fletcher Tauchman Ramos Martin 3-Mar Julks Robert Tauchman Gallo Burke 5-Mar ss Gallo Robert Tauchman Thaiss Perez 5-Mar ss Julks Fletcher Colas Ramos B. Wilson 6-Mar Julks Fletcher Colas Narvaez Cannon 7-Mar x Taylor Robert Tauchman Sosa S. Smith 8-Mar Taylor Robert Tauchman Vaughn S. Smith 9-Mar Gallo Fletcher Mitchell Drury Adams 10-Mar Taylor Robert DeLoach Teel Perez 11-Mar Gallo Baldwin Fletcher Mitchell Cannon 12-Mar Fletcher Robert Taylor Drury Dunn 13-Mar Jankowski Robert Mitchell Vaughn Leasure 14-Mar Fletcher Taylor Tauchman Lee Adams 15-Mar ss Taylor Robert Fletcher Mitchell Perez 15-Mar ss Baldwin Jankowski Tauchman Maton Burke 16-Mar Maton DeLoach Julks Ramos B. Wilson 16-Mar bo Wolkow B.Montgomery Veras Teel H. Smith 17-Mar Jankowski Taylor Tauchman Robert Cannon

Meidroth at SS, again C 1B 2B SS 3B 22-Feb Thaiss Drury Meidroth Montgomery Vargas 23-Feb Lee Vaughn Rojas Amaya Sosa 24-Feb Narvaez Gallo Gray Meidroth Vargas 25-Feb Thaiss Drury Sosa Montgomery Rojas 26-Feb Lee Vaughn Meidroth Amaya Vargas 27-Feb Narvaez Drury Rojas Gray Sosa 28-Feb Thaiss Vaughn Baldwin Amaya Vargas 1-Mar Lee Gallo Sosa Meidroth Rojas 2-Mar Narvaez Vaughn Baldwin Amaya Vargas 3-Mar Thaiss Sosa Rojas Meidroth Drury 5-Mar ss Lee Vaughn Rojas Amaya Sosa 5-Mar ss Narvaez Drury Meidroth Baldwin Vargas 6-Mar Thaiss Gallo Baldwin Amaya Drury 7-Mar x Narvaez Vaughn Rojas Meidroth Vargas 8-Mar Lee Vargas Meidroth Rojas Sosa 9-Mar Thaiss Vaughn Baldwin Montgomery Dalbec 10-Mar Narvaez Sosa Rojas Amaya Vargas 11-Mar Teel Lipcius Maton Bergolla Sosa 12-Mar Narvaez Vaughn Rojas Meidroth Vargas 13-Mar Lee Vargas Sosa Meidroth Rojas 14-Mar Thaiss Drury Baldwin Amaya Dalbec 15-Mar ss Lee Vaughn Sosa Amaya Rojas 15-Mar ss Narvaez Vargas Drury Meidroth Dalbec 16-Mar Thaiss Lipcius Antonacci Gray Sosa 16-Mar bo Quero Elko Bergolla C.Montgomery Meidroth 17-Mar Lee Vaughn Drury Meidroth Vargas

These guys play every day. If they're not in a scheduled game, I'm pretty sure they're in drills and B-games in the morning. I think Bergolla has solidly put himself on the map in the middle infield picture.

As a 3rd rounder, the guy was always a dude. He just needed to return from the injury.