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The Sox claimed they offered "the most" to Machado too. Difference is in the Machado one the concept of "most" was called to question.

Yeah, but you're not hearing about the % from a teams mouthpiece about how they offered more. Sometimes the Sox act like their doing the players a favor when they offer big money, and not that the player earned this money. Machado and Wheeler. I'm not insinuating it was a fake offer, btw. They offered it, they thought they'd get him and they didn't. They've still yet to sign someone over 100 million in the history of their organization (matched by only teams like the Pirates and Rays) and every season there are multiple Sox fans here linking the Sox to 30AAV+ guys and guys that would shatter the Sox largest contract; as if the Sox are the favorite or make sense. The Sox will never be a favorite for the marquee FA's on the market until they actually sign one for once.

How is admitting that you offered a guy more money and he accepted to go elsewhere using the media to your advantage? lol

How many teams run out right after a guy takes another offer to scream about what they offered him through their mouth piece?

Yes, the Sox will set the market in markets that have caps that are well under the amount of money Robbie Ray and Marcus Semien are going to get. If you play a position that doesn't get 9 figure contracts the Sox are all-in on setting the market for you.

Im pretty sure the Sox aren't the market setters you may think they are with this post. Actual teams that spend big money will be engaged with Ray and they will push the market up. The Sox are the team waiting in the weeds hoping someone falls through on the cheap.

I think Toronto prioritizes Ray over Semien because of their need for pitching over bats.

I'd certainly give him half that, but 138 is a bit much. Gausman is awesome and the real deal; that splitter has just changed who he is as a pitcher and put some value back in his fastball. I'd be worried about him going from the best ballpark in baseball to pitch in to a decent hitters park, that's for sure. That said, I'd give Gausman a 4/90-95 or possible a 5/100ish type offer.

Eduardo Rodriguez has made 25+ starts once in his entire career before this year. Thrown 138+ innings in a season twice. Syndergaard missed 2 full seasons, he had much more problems with his arm than just suffering from basic TJ surgery. Since 2017 he's basically missed more time than he's pitched. I'm arguing id give them all QO's. The difference between Carlos and those two is he was very good last year. They ALL have risks with injury and inconsistency.

Syndergaard has thrown 2 innings since 2019. Eduardo Rodriguez missed all of 2020 and then had a 4.74 ERA last year.

That's pretty crazy, but a lot of risk with some of those and selling out can be difficult. I'm in $OMI token; I bought in at about .00146 - it's gotten up to a penny. I think $OMI actually has a viable and long term position - it has by far the best licenses in the NFT game (Disney, Star Wars, Marvel, USPS now, Back to the Future, WB and etc just to name a few of many) and their token is deflationary meaning as long as the business holds viability for a long enough period of time (ie the digital collectible market maintains it's presence), if you hold the value of OMI could really sky rocket 6-8 years out at their current burn rate. The more popular VEVE (their digital marketplace) continues to become the faster they burn and get into circulated supply. I've got 900,000 of them as I was a bit skeptical on NFT's and that market which cost me around $1300. Right now that's worth about $7200 but I'm holding for the long term, betting on the company, and hoping with the deflationary aspect we're looking at a 10-50cent run in the next 5-7 years. If it zeroes, it zeroes. Their licenses are so damn good.

Amazing that they got to 1 trillion in less than 2 years from this post. Up 1000% feels pretty good. So again I don't give much invest advice in public, but my next big play is Li-Cycle (in them large) and some Ford. Moreso li-cycle though. I think you're looking at the soon-to-be fastest growing market in the world (battery recycling) and I've been in LICY since June 2021 as I love how far along they are compared to competition. I think you're looking at a 20-40b market cap in the next 4-5 years and then a possible huge explosion 6 years out as EVs start to need battery swaps and etc for the market that is really taking off. Recycled lithium a huge component here too

I don't disagree, I just think you give the benefit of the doubt to the Sox far too often.

So he's not 100% healthy, but they would rather bring him back for multiple years than for one year. Hmmmm, makes a lot of sense!

But... in a way they are? Again, Verlander, Syndergaard, Ed Rod and etc were all extended QO's. I noted earlier if Carlos has off-season surgery I would 100% understand. If he doesn't, he signs somewhere, and then passes his physical then this is a horrible move. It's really that simple. Could he fail his physical or have surgery? Sure. Do the Sox deserve the benefit of the doubt that they're not being cheap? Absolutely not. All Carlos costs was money. Instead the Sox will probably end up trading more assets for "affordable" arms like they did with Lynn. This team should be pushing 190+ million dollar payroll, but we know that won't happen. How is that not frustrating? If they really trade Kimbrel, they're at about 140 now. Carlos puts them at 158. They could still sign a 2B and another SP/RP if they acted like an actual heart-of-the-contention window organization.

If $18 million is 75% of what this team has to spend then that's the entire issue.

Look around the league. There's nothing absurd about it. Verlander, Syndergaard, Ed Rod all got QO's. Carlos had the 2nd highest projected WAR of all players who could have been offered a QO.

1. You need more than 5 starting pitchers. The sox have no minor league depth. 2. How is a rotation with two complete question marks at 4-5 a good thing? Kopech isn't gonna throw more innings than Carlos did this year and keuchel is absolutely terrible.

To those who think the sox could sign scherzer. Sox have 14 guys under contract. They're at 156 million. Let's say they swap kimbrel and eat zero money (seems unlikely but we'll assume) They're now at 140. Scherzer would out them around 175. We'll say 4 million (but may be more given the new cba) for the 5 young guys. 179, roster is at 19. They still need a 2nd baseman and at least 1 BP arm. 15 million combined would mean some bad guys there, but let's say 15. 194 Then they round out the last 4-5 guys on the roster with what? I'm assuming they role with vaughn/sheets in the of here too,

That the Sox are close to their ceiling and are hoping to free up some Kimbrel money to go dumpster diving to fill some holes. Still think Carlos had more trade value than Kimbrel but think you have to hold for a certain amount if time if a guy signs a QO so they couldn't trade him and free up money to spend on a 2b and of'er at the dollar store in time.

no room for a starter, that's why Carlos is gone. Keuchel and Kopech super duper reliable and great. The fact that this messaging/narrative is already being pushed by the organizational PR team isn't great news.

Yeah, sox have given a lot of 3 year deals over 100 million. That's right up their wheel house.

Yeah, which wouldn't be surprising and wouldn't be something the sox would offer imo.

He was unreal for the dodgers down the stretch but his last 240 innings have shown a sign of aging and some diminishing skills. Still very good but never know when that cliff comes.

He said he'd never play for Tony La Russa. He said he wouldn't play for Tony la russa for any amount of money lol