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Yeah, poor Tony, he's really suffered immense consequences for alcohol and his decision making

Do you even remember what you typed 10 minutes ago? You highlighted and bolded the following in the post you responded to: Do you realize how poor your judgement has to be, to drive so drunk, that you FALL ASLEEP at the wheel you then went on some diatribe about legal limits in Arizona and told the poster he didn't know what he was talking about and didn't understand science. What the poster said was 100% accurate. Tony la russa was so drunk he passed out at the wheel. He wasn't wrong and your post was nonsense. Thanks.

Guys, I was drunk driving but I'm an alcoholic so it's cool.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=2807935 Tlr fell asleep at the wheel for his first dui. It appears you struggle with facts.

I've explained why, given the volume of balls in play and the amount of plays that are effected by the shift (there has been a very small decrease in BABIP), but there's no point in presenting it to you since you're not really one who is willing to listen and understand the math behind it.

Yes, Tony has shown a real willingness to listen to others thoughts and ideas throughout his career.

We're really reaching with the term advanced analytics and the distance of the fence.

Could have used Zach this post season that's for sure.

This cannot be a serious comment. Tony LaRussa is literally on record saying data is great and all, but at the end of the day he trust "observational" analytics... which is a stupid fancy way of saying he trusts the eye test and his gut. Last year, with Ricky in charge and shifting on 30% of plays, the White Sox ranked SECOND in baseball in DRS. This year, with LaRussa in charge and shifting 20% of AB's, The White Sox ranked third from LAST in baseball in DRS. Fielding analytics are volatile, but they're not that volatile. This team took a 20 year step back by hiring LaRussa to run the team. Calling Tony La Russa one of the pioneers of analytics in baseball is one of the most delusional things I've ever read.

The Sox are who they always have been; sure they "rebuilt" but that was a concession Jerry could live with because it saved them some money. They'll always be the "serious talking" half-assed walking organization when it comes to operating like a contender. They have always talked the talk, but they don't walk the walk. The organization is riddled with nepotism, the "advancements" and tech were just getting 5 years behind other teams instead of being 10, and the payroll is going to be the same spend high at positions that high doesn't cost much so you can claim you were playing with the big boys. The Sox won't pony up big cash to supplement the core like they claimed, instead they'll claim that cash was used to keep the core... whatever that means. Fact is, the Sox don't know how to act like big boys, and their owner is stuck in a game that existed three decades ago. As long as LaRussa is in charge, we'll continue to see shit like this: 28 Chicago White Sox -12 -21 -6 -14 3 2 0 7 -11 3 14 -5 -40 29 New York Yankees -10 -5 -7 -12 -5 -15 -5 -5 6 -1 16 2 -41 30 Philadelphia Phillies 10 -8 -9 4 -11 -18 -9 0 -9 -9 9 -4 -54 White Sox -40 defensive runs. 20% shifts compared to league average of 30% and compared to 46% from Astros and 50% from Dodgers. As long as the Sox have a dinosaur in the dugout, they'll continue playing a game that hasn't existed since the Mesozoic era.

It's funny to see the Tony stans, like CTSF, explode and say enough is enough in the game threads, and then come running back with their tail between their legs claiming there's no point in doing anything.... Imagine if Chitown had this same energy when Ricky was manager when he demanded over and over again that Ricky get replaced and fired, no questions asked.

Oh I know, the guy I responded too was ripping the Grandal contract.

So they pitched him with greater frequency because they were worried about stressing the hamstring? Huh? If anything spreading his appearances out would be beneficial for the muscle.

Seriously, what is wrong with people? Grandal was worth his contract this year despite getting hurt and missing 6 weeks. I swear to god people will complain about anything. Grandal just had one of the highest wRC+ for a catcher in MLB history this year.

Before the injury, Kopech made 14 appearances, of those 14 appearances only three were 1 inning, 5 were more than 2 innings. In July and August after he returned, Kopech made 20 appearances, of those 20 only THREE were over 1 inning, and of those three one was for 1 1/3. The Sox executed the plan exactly as they wanted, and it is very clear they did not want his innings to go above the level he reached. They waited until September 15th to let Kopech throw more than 35 pitches in an outing. He reached 70 innings, which was quite obviously - to me at least - the goal they wanted him to reach. Why obvious? Because they had two months between July and August to give him more innings but they chose to make him a one inning guy during that period of time.

If the spin is tight, I wouldn't say this is true; as long as he's releasing from the same point. Sliders travel on the same plane even longer than change ups. They are both really effective pitches, but again... your last point states the level of mismanagement. It's very very difficult to throw 3 pitches out of the bullpen as a one inning guy. It's very infrequent you have a feel for all three pitches in your first inning. You find feel for pitches as games progress. By throwing Kopech 1 inning for so long, you basically forced him to scrap the change up. There was no time for experimentation given his role

The logic you are presenting here makes no sense... Stretching Kopech out and expanding his innings was derailed by a hamstring injury... also, they could have stretched him out towards the end of the year but then he wouldn't have been available for the post season. So... how did the hamstring derail stretching him out if he couldn't be stretched out anyway without losing postseason eligibility? It can't be both. And the excuse that the injury prevented them from doing something they clearly never had any plans on doing is nonsense imo. People insinuating he wasn't stretched out because of that injury are simply making things up and drawing their own conclusions without an inkling of evidence. The Sox managed Kopech how they did, it was poorly, and based on that mismanagement they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt that they would have done it correctly if not for some 2 week hamstring injury.

He hurt his hamstring/leg.

Edit. Nvm

Sure - Sox Starters: vs Yankees - 4.76 ERA vs Seattle - 3.20 ERA (Ouch Bullpen) vs Houston - 4.66 ERA vs Tampa - 4.37 vs Boston - 6.84 (Lucas... whoops) vs Milwaukee - 2.25 (ouch Bullpen)

You haven't refuted a single thing I've stated. you've made blanket statements that were misleading or incorrect. Sox outperformed their yearly OPS vs a majority of good teams they faced (teams over .500). The Sox didn't pitch and defend vs good teams which led to a poor record and a poor run differential. The offense is not the #1 issue with the team, it's literally the issue of least concern. That doesn't mean they shouldn't improve it, but calling me not smart enough to analyze or comprehend a statistical argument is pretty hilarious. The name calling and ridicule also is basically you surrendering to the point. Statistical analysis is one of the few things in life I am very well educated in, in addition to having an extensive real-life background in it's utilization and processing. Confirmation bias, correlation vs causation, lack of data integrity, and misleading usage of statistics is something you see endlessly in sports conversations. In this case, you have hit a grand slam. Congratulations.

White Sox ERA: vs Yankees - 4.99 vs Seattle - 5.12 vs Houston - 4.7 vs Tampa - 5.07 vs Boston - 4.81 vs Mil - 4.32 Total for the year - 3.73 It was the OFFENSES fault they didn't hit more flyballs and that's why they didn't beat Good teams! It wasn't the defense and pitching staff that struggled. Any other questions, @Tony The offense on the other hand had better OPS than their year-long average against more than half the playoff teams they played in the regular season and more than 65% of the winning teams they played.

How can OPS be wrong? Isn't it the same stat you just used to claim they struggle offensively against good teams? Did you ever think maybe the pitching and defense struggled against good teams? I guess my OPS stats vs those teams were wrong but yours (against two teams) were right. Riveting stuff.

You implied that Jimmy was correct saying hitting more ground balls but having the 3rd ranked offense in baseball was WORSE than being one of the actual worst defensive teams in basebal. It's pure nonsense guy. Then you posted misleading statistics against two pitching staffs to sell your point. Yankees and Boston had better staffs than Houston and Tampa and the Sox hit them just fine. Cinci pitching staff was damn near identical to Houstons and the Sox hit them fine. Any other misleading points you want to make?

Houston OPS against Tampa: 629 Against Yankees: 662 Against White Sox (regular season): 684 A lot of dishonest statistical analysis happening in this thread.