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you talk just like a cubs fan. If. If. If. If. If Prior pitched. If we played at our place. If. If. If. What was the final score of that game? Michigan is a damn great lot better than Purdue. I have no opinion on what Purdue's ranking should be right now. I know Michigan devastated Purdue in every area. Seldom - and I suspect that I have seen a hell of a lot more football games than you and have seen Purdue play more games than you've seen Big 10 games in person in a life time - seldom have I seen a team dominate as Michigan dominated Purdue in 2003. Didn't matter where that game was played. Not one bit. Purdue will finish at best and maybe at worst the 3rd place team in the Big 10. They should get a New Years Day bowl. That sounds exactly right to me. I am not trashing them at all. But they at worst and at best the 3rd place Big 10 team. That is it. They are no more, no less.

when Michigan and Purdue's defenses met this year, what was the final score?

exactly what I am thinking - and fear - wonder if we will win 72 games in 2004

I bet I do - which answers the question of whether those two things work together - great work Alex! Now I will always have to be on anonymous status to keep the blue on and the green off of my posts!

by the way, that beautiful blue color is telling me my status is offline when indeed I am very much online - but not from my usual computer of course since I am 250 miles from home

green for online status? I hate green I hate scarlet too why can't everything be Blue! (Nice work, Heads - I am posting this from Chicago - in town to see Michigan @ Northwester tomorrow - glad to see soxtalk up and running!

HB! and don't til Monday to Pm me if you get anything good

that's cuz the Sox don't like either of you they always play on my birthday, almost always at home and once again, this year, we have a home game on my day! truth is, you have to be a Demorat before the schedule makers accomodate you! by the way: a baseball game in January: best I could do, mr eye

welcome to soxtalk

I want Robbie back - is was nice to see 2nd base played well defensively for a change, for the first time since maybe Bobby Knoop. Jas: the incredibly intelligent person you have in your signature is on the cover of Rolling Stone. Could a human being be any dumber?

post of the year

Be fair, my friend. I am not saying quit your job and love on the dole. I am saying that all medical and dental care, housing - safe, heated, and secure and lead paint free, and education and food, be provided for all children regardless of citizenship status - that is doable. It is very doable for less than the $87 billion gift given to Iraq. We have the money to do much. We put opur money in places where it does not do any good. Halibuton could give back all of its excess profits it is making on the no-bid contracts and make mnoney for their shareholders and have billions to donate for human need - the meney is there, just in the wrong places. Social service folks in your own community could take you on a tour of a world that so few of us come into contact with. Hey, you want people to work, well, then child care must be provided for parents to work at minimum wage jobs or then most loving parents will be forced to not work to stay with the kids rather than leave small children alone untended. Go to the local social service agency - Catholic Family Services is where I worked, Lutheran Social services the same good programs - and volunteer. I am not advocating your life of ease and unfair to say that is what I said. I spoke of providing for the alreay born with more than a few prayers and "be well." In fact, Jesus condemns responding to those in need by saying a few prayers and "be wells" and not supplying the single parent and chilren with what they need to live on a decent level. I never even see RTL lobbying for full medical coverage and nutritional needs and parenting skills classes offered for pregnant women - not very much putting their money where their mouth is on right to life, just a lot of moral posturing to be seen and heard in the markeyplace, doing nothing that is real for people in need.

I am not sure what the obstetric and gynecological education levels of everyone here are - and I don't mean that in an infantile "ha ha ha women's sexual organs" way. I mean seriously, realisticly, in real life. As a pastor, I do not have the luxury of looking at things like abortion as some kind of theoretical construct. It is real life, real people, real situations. There is no "one size fits all" philosophy that works for every person in every situation, despite the attempts of some to make real life seem that way. The medical procedure of dilation and extraction is not used on a healthy fetus, and I wish everyone would grasp that fact. Under Roe v Wade there has never been an unlimited right to an abortion for a second and third trimester sitruation. Dilation and extraction is not a procedure that is routinely used, and anyone who suggests that is ill informed. There are real life situations where a fetus is so malformed that its continuence within the woman's body will kill her, if not while it it is in utero or at the time of delivery. Of course this fetus will either be stillborn or die miserably shortly thereafter. Under those certain medical circumstances the medical procedure of d&e may be particularly advised so that the woman can live and the woman can later conceive and give birth. This is a private decision between a woman and doctor - or should be. This so-called scam law of "partial birth abortions" is aimed at gutting a woman's right to choose. The attempt is to get everyone worked up her about a mediucal procedure that sounds grotesque. No medical procedure is dainty and bloodless. This law passed Congress and signed by Bush makes "findings" that a woman's right to life is not a medical priority. Think about that one. That is why the courts have been so swift to declare this thing unconstitutional, again, and enjoin it. Do you reall think that the courts and those who vigorously oppose this law, like me, are monsters? Do you think we are that evil? Do you think we crush healthy babies heads for pleasure? That totally wrong and I suggest deliberating lying mis-representation of what a d&e is, is astounding. It is a PR ploy. It is not reality. The facade of this law is to eliminate a woman's right to choice. Make no mistake. For those who say that all abortions in all situations are wrong, this law is an attempt to get to that place. For those of us who struggle to preserve the right of a woman to make medical decisions in her best interest, this law represents a real attack on choice. Unlike many, this is not an issue I discuss in school as theory, or even in church. I have driven women to the doctor's office to get the medical reports on the fetus' situation in problem pregnancies. I have held their hands while they get the news from their doctors and I have sat with women and their families as they struggled to make the best possible situation when presented with only horrible scenarios. and no good choices, and to choose the best option when no options are good in light of their faith and their conscience before God. I have taken some women to get the medical procedure done that will preserve her life and health. I have also baptized infants that were born when the medical risks did not indicate that an abortion was not the best medical alternative. This is not theoretical to me. This is a real life issue. And I will fight to my dying breath for a woman's right to choose. As far as care of the born - a few church collections and you think that solves all of the needs out there? Again, I ask for a fully funded program that provides for all medical, housing, clothing, educational, and any opther needs of all children, of all people, without respect to age or citizenship status or any other factor - when that happens, then I will stop believing that Right to Life is about the most cynical and hypoctitical outfit out there.

For those ancient ones amongst us, such as myself who remember the Go Go Sox, stealing and sacrificing, bunting, and all of that in the Go Go game would be great to see again - but I do wonder if it could win in this era. That was a different game almost than what is played today. But I do wish that we could do those things better. Having those weapons in our arsenal could only enhance the offense. Not to make this thread any longer which I have, I am at work and all my books and resources are at home, does anyone know offhand the details of how we once scored - and I may have the numbers a tad bit off - 11 runs in an inning with only one hit? Manufacturing runs is a lost art. And I don't think the Sox will win until we stop playing Earl Weaver style (waiting for the 3-run home run) and at least include some Go Go Sox offense in our skill set.

Here are 4 more sentences that i got into. I am amazed to see this thread day after day at the top of the charts. Are we even talking about Koch in this thread anymore? Amazing how a thread can take on a life of its own! This is one of those threads that will not die!

every once in a while someone puts together 4 sentences that just say so much - GOWT, you are exactly right.

still getting fatal messages when one tries to access My Controls... is everything fixed yet?

That is true for everything from Twinkies to nuclear power. Anything can be used for good or for ill. Big deal. Stem cell research needs to proceed for the tremendous good it can do. And thigs like CloneAid will never be more than big talk in tabloids. Unless it is like FarmAid and they get Willie Nelson to sing.

The chief should be dropped, pronto. Not going to debate it. Just always interesting to hear peeople say I don't care that someone gets offended when we insult and stereotype their culture. If I said that was a typical redneck comment, there would be people offended by that stereotype. And that is the point. Last time I was at Illinois for a football game, I walked out on that travesty.

I was going to use your thread first but the sexy dancing babe in DK's avatar checked your Hawks hockey player over the boards and into the crowd and then unimpeded she scored the goal

I merged the two separate threads on the same subject - hope that is ok, I saw no reason for 2 competing threads on the same thing I am glad ELo got 2nd

that would mean only rich people get to use it

Jas, check the Fatal Error thread - I get the same fatal error message too

that is the way that I feel - and I think Haladay deserves it a bit more

I fixed it by praying!