Controlled Chaos

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 02:27 PM) He has given up only 1 walk in 18 ABs this year. He gave up a bomb to a guy that has a 1200 OPS this season and 3 HR in 3 straight games and a HR to a guy that leads the league in HR. Are you kidding? and this.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 02:24 PM) It was a meatball to Shelton, there is no doubt. However, the conditions were pretty s***ty out there. Im just happy we came away with the W. Whatever works. They been dialed in to the mid to upper 90's speeds all game with Jose pitching. Bobby doesn't have the movement Jose has and it was pouring. I'll let it the homer slide without knocking Bobby too much. We have a streak going...

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 02:22 PM) Why because a hot hitter right now got a hold of one? Hell be fine I also don't know if this is affecting anything, but it is raining pretty good there.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 02:16 PM) Anderson broke back on Magglio's fly ball. misread the swing. came charging in. got there. dropped the ball after it hit his glove, about thigh high. should have been an error, definitely not a double. Annoucners said it shold've been an error too. Also said they thought maybe iguchi could have got it. Come on Bobby!!!!!!

Detroit annoucers are saying Jose painted the outside corner and got robbed on that walk.

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 12, 2006 -> 01:42 PM) http://www.thegamelive.com/ Click on baseball/american/detroit/ wtrx - flint feed. Wow espn gamecast is 3 pitches ahead of the radio call. Not that I don't appreciate steff.... Im just confused as hell now...what to do.

What is that link? Please

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ESPN Gamecast had it down as a homer too. They fixed it now..I wish I could say the same for the file cabinet I just kicked when I heard about the home run!!

I always slid headfirst into second. I needed the extra second. I jammed my finger once on the bag and it hurt like a mofo. You try to alwasys go in fingers up, but sometimes they come down and get jammed. I carried gloves after it happened to me. I just wasn't able to grab the bag as good as I was before, but I loved sliding like that. Too bad the umps back then didn't watch the whole play...it was kinda just like hey the ball is there so he is out. I used to be great at avoiding the tag and slipping my hand in there.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 11:05 PM) Does this mean that there was DNA evidence from someone other than a member of the lacrosse team? If so, that is where the DA should be looking, not at trying to win an election by going after rich white boys. I didn't know about the re-election or that his district was 85% black. I know I saw the students at North Carolina Central giving it to the DA pretty good yesterday. They were basically telling him we know which way this would go if the colors were reversed so he better make it happen. I'm sure he is feeling a lot of pressure to take this as far as he can whether he has evidence or not. It'll be interesting to see this unfold and get his side. It's playing out as black/white instead of rape/no rape.

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QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 01:22 PM) What your post showed was it was difficult to own Real Estate in Mexico. Actually damn near impossible. And I agree with that point. My point was it is easy to immigrate and work in Mexico which is what most of the illegals wish to do. So if we break it down and compare apples and apples, applying for a work permit is much easier for an American working in Mexico than a Mexican working in America. I happen to have worked in Mexico for two years so maybe I know something about the subject. Sorry for asking questions, I was trying to understand your point. I guess people who don't want to understand other people's opinions will just say f***ing and bulls*** a few times and think that is a worthwhile discussion. So if just saying f***ing and bulls*** is your posting strategy, well I've been down that road with people before. I learned there wasn't much to learn from those types. I don't have a strategy, I just post. As for the 'f***ing' and 'bulls***', what can I say...you bring out the best in me. Just to make you feel better though, I understood your point perfectly while using those words.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 11:52 AM) Your ancestors were not judged by Italian laws either. Are you saying that if Mexico had different laws, the illegals would have a valid argument? That if they were campaigning for similar laws from their country, it would somehow be more legitimate? For example with illegals were demanding the end to private gun ownership or capital punishment, it would then be valid because that is the law in their native country? Should the US base their immigration laws concerning a specific country based on that country's laws? If a Country allows free immigration from America, we should allow free immigration to America? SS, This is about objects, goods, that are entering, not people. I didn't see the connection between allowing freight to pass through unchecked and people. So the 12 million illegals doesn't appear on face value to be a fair comparison of freight policies. Dude you have to turn everything into a f***in headache. You said it was easy to immigrate to mexico. I just pointed out an article saying otherwise and you in turn start with your needling... Are you suggesting this? Should we do this? Do you think that? Blah blah blah. Same s*** with you everytime. Someone makes a comment and you start asking all these hypothetical questoins..."what if this...what if that" They answer and you have more "how about if this...are you saying we should do that." They answer and guess what...you have more hypothetical bulls***. It's like you have a posting strategy or something. Get the person to keep having to defend themselves against your ignorant suggestions instead of making their own points. Whatever...Been down that road before. This ain't a Q&A. I was simply f***ing saying that if I was an illegal mexican wondering what the big hooppla was about, I can look at my own country and say ...oh dam..we have our own policies as well. It isn't as easy as just crossing a border here either.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 09:53 AM) Alot of stories and examples of guilty people getting off as innocent in this page of the thread, but not many stories of women faking rape to gain access to easy money like this case was. My first look at how evil a woman can be was when I was 17 years old. I worked with a girl who had told me her boyfriend dumped her. I think he cheated on her or something... I guess they fought over it for like a week or so. Anyway, she told him she was pregnant and needed money for an abortion. I guess he said no at first, but she said she would go to the cops and say she was raped. She told me he was either gonna pay with his wallet or his ass. So he gave her the 300.00 she asked for. She brought it in to work one day and was like I got paid!! She did that just to take money from him cause he broke up with her. I was like that is just plain f***in wrong. I guess I was a bit naive at that time or too trusting in people, but a girl doing that kind of thing never even crossed my mind. I never imagined a girl could just make something like that up. For the record, I haven't come across very many 'evil' women out there capable of something like that. But they are around.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 10:46 AM) Most of those are accurate. Foreigners have very limited real estate rights in Mexico. Are you suggesting that should be the policy here? That foreign companies not be allowed to purchase real estate? Perhaps we should consider the relative lifestyles of both countries and believe our laws are better and resulted in ours being the #1 economy in the world. Why would we want to look at a country that clearly is behind us in almost every major area and think their way is better? What I am saying, is if you want to work in Mexico, and I did for 2 years, it is a very simple process. And once you are issued your green card, you may live and work anywhere within their borders. I wasn't saying we should model our laws after mexicos at all. I dont think that's what rush was saying either. I don't think it said their way was better anywhere either. I'm just saying illegal Mexicans, waving their mexican flags in this country,(due to what I can only assume is pride in their country cause why else to you wave flags) can take a look at the policys of their own homeland when trying to get the US to change it's laws. I know my ancestors didn't come here from Italy waving the Italian Flag and demanding citizenship.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 11, 2006 -> 09:17 AM) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ So we should be more like Mexico? You are dreaming big there. It is very easy to immigrate to Mexico. Basically fill out a form and they will accept as many as we can send. You will need a FM3, basically a green card, and yes they are green. Basically get a passport, and a Photo ID. That is much different than immigrating to the US. So the comparison fails on many levels. I'm not sure if you're right or rush and I don't have the time to look it up, but if this is at all accurate it doesn't seem like it's 'very easy' to immigrate to mexico. I guess he can be totally making this up, but I doubt it. I don't really ever read the guy. I was just looking for immigration policys to mexico and came across this article. The following is excerpted from Rush’s transcript quote: “All right, immigration proposals under discussion. Let me add mine to the mix. I want to call this proposal the Limbaugh Laws. …First, if you immigrate to the United States of America, you must speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor. [America is] not going to take unskilled workers…There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections, no government business will be conducted in your native language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote…nor will they ever be allowed to hold political office. According to the Limbaugh Laws, if you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled, ever, to welfare, to food stamps, or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If you don't know have that amount of money, you can't come and invest. You have to stay home. If you do come and you want to buy land, okay, but we're going to restrict your options. You will not be allowed to buy waterfront property in the United States. That will be reserved for citizens naturally born in this country.” “In fact, as a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to property… Another thing. You don't have the right to protest when you come here. You're allowed no demonstrations, you cannot wave a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies, or you get sent home. You're a foreigner. You shut your mouth or you get out, and if you come here illegally, you go straight to jail and we're going to hunt you down 'til we find you.” End of quote. From the transcript: “I can imagine many of you think that the Limbaugh Laws are pretty harsh. I imagine today some of you probably are going, "Yeah! Yeah!" Well, let me tell you this, folks. Every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico, today. I just read you Mexican immigration law. That's how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country.”

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France surrenders. France scraps youth job law By Matthew Bigg 11 minutes ago PARIS (Reuters) - French President Jacques Chirac scrapped a youth job law on Monday after weeks of angry unrest, in a climbdown that undermined his prime minister and handed protesters victory. Chirac's decision was a personal blow to Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, who had championed the First Job Contract (CPE) as a vital job-creating reform of the French economy but had seen his popularity slump as mass opposition grew. The government U-turn over the CPE makes it unlikely France will attempt broader reform of its highly-regulated labor market before 2007, some economists said. Villepin said in a television address he regretted that the strikes and street protests showed the CPE could not be applied but gave no hints about his own political future, on the line over his handling of the dispute. "The necessary conditions of confidence and calm are not there, either among young people, or companies, to allow the application of the First Job Contract," Villepin said, adding he would open talks with unions on youth employment. A protest march in Paris planned for Tuesday should show whether student anger over the contract has abated. In one sign student protests could be dwindling, the education ministry said only five universities were closed or disrupted by strikes and 30 others functioned normally. Villepin had said the CPE would reduce youth unemployment of 22 percent. Lack of jobs is the country's number one political issue and a major reason for weeks of rioting in poor suburbs late last year. The "easy hire, easy fire" CPE would have allowed firms to sack workers under 26 without giving a reason during a two-year trial period. The prime minister's poll ratings plunged as opposition to the measure mounted, damaging his chances of becoming the ruling UMP party's candidate for president in elections in 2007. "The president ... has decided to replace article 8 of the equal opportunities law with measures to help disadvantaged young people find work," the presidency said in a statement. A DROP OF CHAMPAGNE Chirac and Villepin were careful to say that the CPE, part of a wider law on equal opportunities, was being "replaced" rather than repealed. Unions who had opposed the measure, arguing it would create insecurity for young workers, declared victory. "Perhaps we will drink a drop of champagne. This is an undeniable victory for a social movement," said Gerard Aschieri, secretary of the FSU union. "The CPE is dead and buried. That means the goal of securing the withdrawal of the CPE has been achieved," said Jean-Claude Mailly, secretary general of Force Ouvriere union. "The question is whether this has signed away the possibility of reform in the longer term," said David Naude, economist at Deutsche Bank. The new measures include increased financial incentives to employers to hire people under 26 who face the most difficulties in getting access to the labor market, Employment Minister Jean-Louis Borloo said in an interview with Le Monde newspaper. That would apply to approximately 159,000 young people currently hired under government-subsidized job contracts and the cost to the government would be around 150 million euros ($180 million) in the second half of 2006, Borloo said. The new measures, financed by an increase in tax on tobacco, could be introduced in parliament as early as Tuesday, said a senior UMP deputy. Marchers vilified the prime minister and his rival for the UMP presidential candidacy, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, but analysts said Monday's decision was especially damaging for Villepin. Chirac is not expected to run in the 2007 election. "The presidential hopeful Villepin is practically dead, the prime minister Villepin is in big difficulty," said Christophe Barbier of the L'Express magazine. "Villepin the man, as we have seen, seems quite hurt, worn out." The opposition Socialist Party has yet to name its candidate for the 2007 elections and has failed to translate popular anger at the right-wing UMP into solid gains in opinion polls.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 10, 2006 -> 09:25 AM) Besides watching the game and not standing up and going to the bathroom during play, what other stuff so you like to do? I always enjoyed playing mound ball. The rules are simple. Have everyone hand a dollar to the person sitting on the end. After the conclusion of that half inning, if the baseball winds up on the dirt part of the mound, the person holding the money wins. If it doesn't, he adds a dollar and passes it to the next person. It is generally understood that the position of rest occures at the point a player tosses the ball towards the mound, however, if an umpire catches the ball before it stops moving and tosses it towards the mound, or drops it, we will count that. Of course, Steff feel free to substitute pocket portraits of Ben Franklin to keep your friends interested I've played that before. Paulie almost always keeps the ball so if it's a ground out and you have the cup you're pretty screwed. I played another one where everyone starts off by putting a dollar in a cup. Whoever goes first has the first batter. If he gets a single - take a buck, double - two bucks, triple - three bucks, Home run - the cup is yours and start over. If he makes an out you put in a buck. A walk or sacrifice is wash. Pass the cup to the next guy. I could be forgetting some stuff, but that's the gist. Game can get expensive if you're only playing with a few people. It's usually best to play with a group in your section.

Carter fittingly used a parable to illustrate how he'd like to see the political/religious debate unfold. "I was teaching a Sunday school class two weeks ago," he recalls. "A girl, she was about 16 years old from Panama City [Fla.], asked me about the differences between Democrats and Republicans. "I asked her, 'Are you for peace, or do you want more war?' Then I asked her, 'Do you favor government helping the rich, or should it seek to help the poorest members of society? Do you want to preserve the environment, or do you want to destroy it? Do you believe this nation should engage in torture, or should we condemn it? Do you think each child today should start life responsible for $28,000 in [federal government] debt, or do you think we should be fiscally responsible?' "I told her that if she answered all of those questions, that she believed in peace, aiding the poor and weak, saving the environment, opposing torture ... then I told her, 'You should be a Democrat.'" http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobas...oid=oid%3A57592

QUOTE(whitem0nkey @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 03:26 PM) why not Cause it is so much cooler to spend over a hundred dollars on a jersey of a player that is traded or leaves via FA the following year. It's even more cool to keep doing that year after year and collect non sox player jerseys!!

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 6, 2006 -> 02:23 PM) Using "f**" for cigarette is also unacceptable. Let me provide an example for the kids. "I'm gonna go smoke a f**" Now that can be taken a number of ways depending on your context of "f**" and/or "smoke." Once again...no good here. Please stay away. Thank you!! Being a indoors facility you shouldn't be smoking in here anyway!!

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Do Not under any circumstance call anyone or anything "gay" I don't care what context you use it in. For example....."The old man felt young and gay on his birthday" See.............no matter what, it's just no good here. Stay away from it...we'll all be better off.