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All Time White Sox 122 Year History Fans born after October 1, 1967 have never lived during the best ten decade stretches in White Sox history. Eight of the ten included the Go-Go Sox Era. Best Decade Stretches in White Sox History 1-4. .568 1955-1964; 1954-1963; 1953-1962; 1952-1961 (162 Game Equivalent 92-70) 5-6. .567 1956-1965; 1951-1960 (162 Game Equivalent 92-70) 7. .563 1957-1966 (162 Game Equivalent 91-71) 8. .560 1956-1967 (162 Game Equivalent 91-71) 9. 553 1911-1920 (162 Game Equivalent 90-72) 10. .551 1901-1910 (162 Game Equivalent 89-73) Fans born after October 4, 1972 have never lived during the best generational stretches in White Sox history. Six of the ten included the Go-Go Sox Era, the remaining four included the first three White Sox American League Pennant winning teams (1906, 1917 & 1919). Best Twenty Year (Generation) Stretches in White Sox History 1. .558 1901-1920 (162 Game Equivalent 90-72) 2. .550 1949-1968 (162 Game Equivalent 89-73) 3. .549 1950-1969 (162 Game Equivalent 89-73) 4. .548 1951-1970 (162 Game Equivalent 89-73) 5-6. 547 1904-1923; 1902-1921 (162 Game Equivalent 89-73) 7-8. .546 1953-1972; 1952-1971 (162 Game Equivalent 88-74) 9. .545 1948-1967 (162 Game Equivalent 88-74) 10. .544 1903-1922 (162 Game Equivalent 88-74) Nine of the ten of worst decades (.422-.450) in White Sox history occurred between 1922-1939 (1941-1950, 9th worst, was the exception). All eleven of the worst generational stretches in White Sox history (.447 - .463) also occurred after the Black Sox Scandal (1920-1951). Jerry Reinsdorf Era 85-86 win carrot seasons defined the best six Reinsdorf decades, all occurring between 1990-2009. Best Decades during the Reinsdorf Carrot Era 1. .529 2000-2009 (162 Game Equivalent 86-76) 2-3. .528 1991-2000; 1990-1999 (162 Game Equivalent 86-76) 4. .527 1997-2006 (162 Game Equivalent 85-77) 5-6. .526 1999-2008; 1992-2001 (162 Game Equivalent 85-77) 84-85 win carrot seasons defined the best six Reinsdorf generational stretches, all occurring between 1989-2012. Best Generational stretches during the Reinsdorf Carrot Era 1-2. .523 1991-2010; 1990-2009 (162 Game Equivalent 85-77) 3. .521 1989-2008 (162 Game Equivalent 84-78) 4-5. .519 1993-2012; 1987-2006 (162 Game Equivalent 84-78) 6. .518 1992-2011 (162 Game Equivalent 84-78) You likely intuitively knew GM Rick Hahn was part of most (6) or all (10) seasons during the five worst decades and generational stretches during the Reinsdorf Era. Worst Decades (33 possible periods) during the Jerry Reinsdorf Era 1. .459 2010-2019 (162 Game Equivalent 74-88) 2-3. .463 2011-2020; 2009-2018 (162 Game Equivalent 75-87) 4. .469 2013-2022 (162 Game Equivalent 76-86) 5. .472 2012-2021 (162 Game Equivalent 76-86) All five of the worst generational (20 year) stretches (23 possible periods) during the Reinsdorf Era (1981-2022) occurred between 1998-2022 (.490-495).

There have been at least a dozen internal and externally driven decisions and incidents I'd rate worse / more detrimental to the Chicago White Sox. In terms of strictly owner / front office baseball decisions, I would have to rank Tony La Russa's hire among the Top 5 since 1975. Would say Omar Vizquel was the most vile hire. Rick Hahn was the most destructive long term hire. Robin Ventura was the worst managerial hire (least qualified) followed by Terry Bevington and Tony La Russa third (2020) and fourth (1979). Chronological Fall 1977 Roland Hemond hires Tony La Russa 8/2/1979 Roland Hemond promotes Tony La Russa 10/2/1985 Jerry Reinsdorf replaces Roland Hemond with Ken Harrelson 6/6/1986 Ken Harrelson fires Dave Dombrowski 6/22/1986 Ken Harrelson hires Jim Fregosi 9/16/1990 Jerry Reinsdorf fires Larry Himes 11/5/1990 Jerry Reinsdorf hires Ron Schueler 10/11/1991 Ron Schueler forces out Jeff Torborg 6/2/1995 Ron Schueler hires Terry Bevington Summer 2011 Kenny Williams extends clubhouse snitch Don Cooper behind Ozzie Guillen's back 10/6/2011 Kenny Williams hires Robin Ventura 10/26/2012 Jerry Reinsdorf promotes Rick Hahn 12/4/2017 Chris Getz hires Omar Vizquel 10/10/2019 Rick Hahn promotes Frank Menechino 10/29/2020 Jerry Reinsdorf hires Tony La Russa 12/1/2020 Tony La Russa hires Shelley Duncan

La Russa appears to be one of the few people who is not aware of what the sentiment is within his "family". Sure there are several rookies or guys like Jose Abreu who just bite their tongue, at least in front of media.

It was one of many examples of Steve’s predictions of the La Russa era failing miserably, starting with the day of Tony’s hire when Steve tweeted “A Tony La Russa team would never be out managed” and stating Tony would hold his players accountable. This 2022 Stone preseason prediction of Tony’s base-running approach is once again completely opposite of what has transpired. Steve may end up taking potshots at the team and eventually the manager to close out the season. He also did this in his final days with the Cubs. He needs to own the fact that he everything he predicted about Tony La Russa era from October 2020 through at least June 2022 have been completely wrong, and in contrast with what the rest of the world has observed since Opening Day 2021.

Every time I read this thread title, this Elton John song lyric runs through my head. ”Someone saved, someone saved, someone saved my Sox tonight”

That was his speech in 2020. He choose instead to be Jerry and Tony’s lapdog at that moment and stay on the payroll. No way he can lead an organization and have people respect him at this point. It must be earned, and between his results and actions, he hasn’t in a decade. He couldn’t even stand up to a 13 year old kid. Gar Pax, Pace Nagy, Hahn La Russa. Need to clean house as one cannot stay without the other, and have a chance at future success.

I’m not necessarily saying he should be the top candidate, just saying we know nothing about him or what he could do. Honestly, I stumped here for Joe Espada in October 2020, and he would be my first choice now. Joe may end up taking the Houston managerial job in October, and no way he comes here over staying with a solid organization. I do know my answer if Jerry presented two options to Hahn, Tony or Miguel.

He’s only allowed to speak when La Russa is out of state. https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/video/cairo-on-win-at-field-of-dreams?q=Miguel Cairo&cp=CMS_FIRST&qt=FREETEXT&p=0

No, Hahn’s October 2019 extension of Ricky was through October 2021. Still like Joe Espada on Houston. Hard to judge for or against Miguel Cairo, who did a good job in NY. Players like him here as well. The Sox played their best game in the La Russa 2.0 Era when Tony was away in Florida, and Miguel Cairo managed the White Sox to a cone from behind victory in the Field of Dreams game.

When are season ticket down payments due, in mid to late October? Not sure if they slow-rolled announcing the Tony La Russa hire until after the 2021 down payments were due. Jerry planned on hiring Tony sometime between the Winter of 2020 and September, when Jerry unleashed Stone, Garfien and the rest of his paid media hacks on Ricky Renteria who did the best he could with one solid starter. I believe Hahn and Tony are signed through at least October 2023, and wouldn’t be surprised if both received an extension beyond this last October.

Fuck this jabroni lying sack of shit. 50 more games of this asshole until he’s gone, and it can’t come any sooner. Pepperage Farm Remembers.

Rick Hahn hired Menechino on October 10, 2019. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/white-sox-move-quickly-name-frank-menechino-new-hitting-coach

So Lopez, Graveman and Hendricks will have pitched in one game since Friday heading into the Detroit series. I wonder if Tony will use them, or will they instead continue resting in a close or tied game without a lead. Not like any of these games in August are important.

Rick Hahn enjoying a day on the playground.

Fifty more games until "He Gawn" for good.

Kenny Williams disguises himself as Rick Hahn for a day to see how he gets away with it.

He's getting over $4M per home run this season. Oh, Tony made Rick sign him. LOLz

Handing out saves and holds is far more important than trying to win the game you are playing. Lopez, Graveman and Hendriks only pitched once since Friday.

So glad Hawk retired, because he would have certainly died of a heart attack broadcasting this sorry ass team and dealing with Stone for another season. "And they find another WAY!!!" Hawk did the right thing in 1986. Period.

Was 9-5 in game threads last season. Likely 0-2 unless the Sox miraculously turn it around. Thought they would go 11-8 during the 19 game stretch that started with Colorado. They are 8-8 and need to sweep Detroit to reach that low bar threshold against the "easy part of the schedule".

My oh my, Jason's getting a chubby with Nicky Lopez up.

Nearly every baseball fan in America is a Tony La Russa fan. Just about every Twins, Tigers, Guardians, Royals, Astros, Athletics......... fan loves Tony La Russa and hope he and Jerry are in their roles into the 2030s.

They need to be gone as well after this season.

WTF? Hahn spent $200 million this season on absolute horseshit. He extended Ricky and then fired him 60 games later. Just about the entire organization from top to bottom needs to be flushed down the toilet, but Hahn is most certainly the first or second crap you take in the process.

This is all on Hahn. He had $5.5M / year tied up in Mazara and Madrigal in 2020, and turned that into Harrison / Garcia / Sheets at $11.6M, and the 2022 options are worse.