Rey21

Think this might have more to do with the holidays than anything else, no?

Kjerstad has to headline or pass

They have a lot of pitching that they will trade to the Sox and simultaneously trade those same pitchers for hitters is how I interpreted Morosi’s comments.

If Elias isn’t willing to give up Kjerstad just move on, not worth the discussion then IMO. O’s forum is trying to sell off “studs” like Mountcastle or Westburg as the headliners for any good starter, instead of any of their top 5 guys.

Morosi and Getz are tight, I’m sure this has legs but he’s not saying anything we didn’t know already.

Giants, Angels, Rangers, Cubs, Phillies, Red Sox, Yankees, Mets.

Sale only pitched 100 innings last year don’t think AA is anywhere near done with that pitching staff

Wow Braves getting Chris Sale for Vaughn Grissom

Reds gave Montas $16 mil… Cease asking price is gonna remain high throughout the offseason

Nightengale said this morning Yankees are checking in on Cease, price is high understandably so but the Yanks are involved as I’m sure the Red Sox are as well as many others who haven’t made public yet.

Exactly this, I guess both our and the O’s fanbase overvalue our pitchers, if it were up to me I’m taking Dylan Cease over Kyle Bradish and GRod 9 times out of 10, im sure SportsGuy and others over there will feel differently

Don’t mind holding out for Cease, have to maximize the return as much as possible, if the guys like Kjerstad aren’t on the table don’t move him, as much as other fanbases may not agree, Cease is a top of the rotation arm and should net the proper return. Not saying he’s Sale but he’s gonna be a Cy young candidate next season

Especially when his value is virtually nothing

Yeah I still want Kjerstad, hope Cowser figures it out and Beavers becomes what you guys think he could be but Kjerstad’s left handed power is too promising to pass on if it’s a pick between Cowser and Kjerstad for the Sox, they need to strike gold with trading Cease, can’t bank on Cowser simply figuring it out.

Watched some of Cowsers highlights from last season, looked like Joey Gallo without as much power. Get Kjerstad his bat is ready now

Kjerstad+Ortiz/Norby+Povich nothing less. I don’t trust Cowser to hit velocity, Kjerstad seems to handle major league pitching much better.

Cool, then Kjerstad can replace Andrew Vaughn’s lack of power.

Kjerstad/Norby or Ortiz/Povich Cowser stunk in the bigs last year for the short time he was there

Did you hear any rumors about Bummer and Atlanta? I’m sure the Yankees, Red Sox, and multiple others are talking to Getz about Cease.

Kjerstad, Ortiz/Norby, and a pitcher while the Sox may be valuing pitching, this would get it over the line.

Now imagine you’re Dylan Cease who was coming into the year ace of the staff, year prior you came in 2nd for Cy young in an LONG 81-81 season, 2023 have been struggling with your mechanics all year, the clubhouse is a complete joke, the entire organization is being dragged about everything and anything, Giolito, Lance Lynn, ReyLo Graveman have all been traded, it’s deadline day your team is 25 games under, your name was being thrown around all day to be traded to a contending baseball team, your hyped ready to go only to stay with your dog crap team. Next day you face the Rangers, he looked like he had no intention of trying to pitch and It’s no surprise his August stunk, the fact that he turned it on come September tells you what you need to know about him. He’s gonna be a Cy Young candidate wherever he gets dealt. The price should be high, Chris Getz should not budge.

If the broadcasters, pre/post-game media couldn’t wait for the season to be over in June, imagine the players in a 90 degree game when you’re 20 games out. Of course there is professionalism involved but this is a fantasy world where a bunch of dudes are paid millions of dollars to play a game.

Nah guaranteed Cease would have sucked with zero shot of regaining any sort of motivation by getting traded to a contender.

If it is so be it, Sox need everything

One of them actually went to a contender and was bad, the other didn’t get a chance to.