Rounding_Third
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Hector wrong. Again. - Cruz back with Min
Rounding_Third replied to fathom's topic in The Diamond Club
With ya, makes more sense to judiciously spend the remaining budget to get a SP & DH combo, which means a lesser DH than Cruz. And La Stella is 2 roles of the price of one. After SP is signed and if not enough for La Stella, a cheaper version is Astrubal Cabrera do be the same duel role guy; a solid SH with good LH power And, not as critical but still smart, I would like to see a backup C. At only ~$2m, an astute tactical move. -
Garrett Richards to Boston, 1 year $10 million.
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You and I also debated this "all in" definition a while back, too. You seems to be locked in that it must mean this 1 year. To me, it means a 3-5 year window to be, on paper at least, a top end WS favorite for that time frame, beginning this year. It's a living, breathing, evolving process to stay there. I agree keeping a few aces up their sleeves to keep it going beyond this year is essential; $'s & prospects (for play or trade). Spending ~$140m this year is "all in" for a mid-market team in these uncertain times. JR is really taking a huge risk; respect & grateful to him for OK'ing it. Dealing a couple/few prospects can mean it too, if their return is key players for all or parts of that window. The main idea is that "all in" is more than just 1 year. Maybe we're saying the same thing. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yeah, he had the surgery in 2016 then some weird biceps nerve issue in 2017 that kept him out 5 months, then the TJ in 2018. Lots of harm done to that arm. IDK! -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The 5 TBD pre arb's are: Kopech, Cease, Heuer, Madrigal, & Foster = est $9.128m -
Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers
Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Richards scares the crap out of me. He hasn't thrown 100 innings since 2015. At ~$10m, his cost/risk factor seems awfully high. I'm afraid he'd be DL'ed by June. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Nice site. But they have the pre arb est (TBD) for the 5 guys at $9.1m. That's got to be too high. Half that maybe? -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Throw out 2020. He can be wild and give up some dingers but still eats innings at a decent era. He has a few blowups most mostly has solid outings. If has a good showing Tuesday, there'll be a lot of interested teams. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
What makes you think that? -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
And Teheran's only stumble was caused by covid and no significant injuries over his strong career. I'd be very happy with either. Both would be better! -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I completely forgot about Teheran. Hope Sox attend his session Tuesday. If his bad 2020 was due solely to his Covid issues, he could be a great bargain. Wonder what he's asking. His 7 years in Atlanta are really impressive! If he's back 100% healthy now, his arm has had virtually a year off, too. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yep, we know Castillo's a beast, we assume Vaughn will be. That alone is why I would do it, too. The 3 years of team control/arb with Castillo is a sweet bonus. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Dad? Is that you? -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
oh, lol, yeah, I did. Yep that was the one. Agreed, the Sox didn't let Yermin and Collins grind it out back then. McCann came along, too, and took off and kind of interfered with any other plans. Speaking of which, I didn't like the Grandal signing at the time. I like Grandal but was unnecessary. Thought so then. Both great catchers but could have signed McCann for 3/4 years, 6-8 AAV and saved 10-12m cap space. Silly, stupid move. The Sox overplay the "big splash" way too much. KW ego gets in the way of logical thinking. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yeah man, for a few years. For me this trade would be, Cinn say yes, I say "let's do it" but when ready to push button. go ummm wait, let me think about this again but then would probably follow through. lol -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Don't think this will happen. Payroll already too high. Sitting at ~$131m and they've hinted at ~$140m max. And they should spend a few mil more on DH & C. Doubt if they go past low $140's and that's a stretch. Personally, can't stand Bauer. Not enough clubhouse walls for all the mirrors he needs. Another Brice Harper. Hendriks at the opposite end of that spectrum; added bonus with his signing. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Though I like Walker as a FA, the payroll says its best for a trade. If its Musgrove then yeah, you trade Kelley. Agree that Pitt wouldn't want the others you mentioned, either. With due respect to Kelley; no guarantees. Musgrove is through all the finger crossing. Also, if target would be Castillo, virtually same 2021 salary, 1 more year of team control over Musgrove and a step up in quality, they should consider Vaughn if that's what it would take. They probably wouldn't though. Probably other similar candidates around the league. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You had previously posted in his thread that Williams was our DH. Not going to quote it, it doesn't matter not you opinion now, its just why I had referenced him. Yermin? Oh man, idk! I like him and Collins in Charlotte as 3rd string C options but DH? RH, 1 career MLB AB, he misses everything for me and an unnecessary risk. Besides, we need vets at LH (a must) DH & backup C; challenging positions best handled by vets. Also given the team youth, they provide leadership ala Keuchel last year. 1 year deals; max 2 if required (i.e. La Stella but not likely now). If that's the Sox idea, too, hope it is, then figure out the best fits and get em ASAP! Don't stop being aggressive! When the signings start, they may go quickly. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Hope that's true and they're still sitting around $131m. I have to respectfully disagree about Williams. His hard fall from year1 both statistically and lack of interest, with no injury history, signals at least one major flaw exposed; probably more, I.E. sucker for changeup in the dirt; fastball up & in, etc. High K-rate good indicator, too. Pretty awful defensively too. If still at $131, they could still sign Walker, if they crept up to low $140's, I think they possibly could still get DH & C combined for <=$5m. Say, Asdrubal Cabrera & Avila, maybe $4m combined. AC brings the same great versatility as La Stella at < 1/3 the cost. Still good SH from both sides and good power from LH. You know I like Murphy but if we're pinching pennies, he and Moreland might be a bit more and don't offer the defensive versatility. The key is the 4th SP, if a trade isn't possible, then Walker should be #1 FA target. He blows away Richards for potential, both having TJ but Richards also has a loooong arm injury history back to '16. Walker is a year further along from the surgery and is also a year further along than Kluber, pitching the 53 innings last year (said 60 before). Seems like a no brainer as to who is the best choice among the 3. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You had said earlier today, separately, about $13m payroll and 4th pitcher mostly likely from trade; a great point. Did the 2 arb deals today increase that # to $137m? How can the Sox find a way to sign this guy? ...and another 5/6m for DH & C. You think they would consider breaking through that $140m magic # that's been suggested by "insiders"? They'd have to approach $150m to get them all. -
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Rounding_Third replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Yeah, signing prediction/expectations vs actuals among pundits are all over the place. This guy seems like the real deal. With TJ in the rear view mirror, those 60 impressive innings could easily get ~150 for 2021; not unreasonable. 2/$15m in a heartbeat, hell, at his age, I'd even take a flyer for 3/4 years at $25/30m. Given that security, he might be interested. Maybe a little risky for Sox but what a steal if he's one of the TJ success stories. -
Arguably, you could add Lynn to the total even though it was a trade. I'm still holding out for a little "filling of the corners" as hobbits like to say, with some low cost, decent ceiling signings.
