Rounding_Third

Not necessarily, I think I'd give that tag to Walker. Given both had TJ, Walker's younger and similar resume. Not sure going back 5-7 years ago with Richards, after all his arm trouble (bicep nerve shuts down bicep from working - crazy), is all that useful for measuring reward.

Me too. Sure would be great if he would take a bit of home town discount so we could squeeze La Stella in, too.

I think we're the same here. I don't want him because of his limited innings and extreme injury history. That's why his risk/cost ranks #1.

Why's that? Besides, $10m for a month or two? What?

Sort that list by risk factor/cost and he's #1.

What's his spin rate the last 5 years after 70 innings?

Does Arrieta appeal to anyone?

Roster resource as good as any payroll site, I guess. The have it sitting at $131.5m. But they also estimate 5 TBD pre arb guys, Kopech, Cease, Heuer, Madrigal, Foster, at $9m. Based on 2020 examples of same types, that correct pre arb $ total should not be more than $4.5m. Therefore, the actual payroll should currently stand around $127m. if I got that right (kind of fuzzy with this payroll stuff), they better have more to do. KH, don't tease the $130m-$140m number, if you really meant $125m-$130m. There are holes to fill and money to do it with. Do it ASAP for SP. It's the hottest part of the market right now. Could be a flurry and who would be left? Get your man, now!

However they do need a future 1B......

Agreed on Richards, too much medical stress on that arm over 5 years. Has a reasonable chance to be DL'ed by June. Not a good way to spend $10m, too risky with so many other options available.

I guess we'll continue to disagree. The strategy of poker is to win the night, not the hand. You can win the hand and still lose the night. Same applies to Sox. You have too much tunnel vision to understand my point.

With ya, makes more sense to judiciously spend the remaining budget to get a SP & DH combo, which means a lesser DH than Cruz. And La Stella is 2 roles of the price of one. After SP is signed and if not enough for La Stella, a cheaper version is Astrubal Cabrera do be the same duel role guy; a solid SH with good LH power And, not as critical but still smart, I would like to see a backup C. At only ~$2m, an astute tactical move.

You and I also debated this "all in" definition a while back, too. You seems to be locked in that it must mean this 1 year. To me, it means a 3-5 year window to be, on paper at least, a top end WS favorite for that time frame, beginning this year. It's a living, breathing, evolving process to stay there. I agree keeping a few aces up their sleeves to keep it going beyond this year is essential; $'s & prospects (for play or trade). Spending ~$140m this year is "all in" for a mid-market team in these uncertain times. JR is really taking a huge risk; respect & grateful to him for OK'ing it. Dealing a couple/few prospects can mean it too, if their return is key players for all or parts of that window. The main idea is that "all in" is more than just 1 year. Maybe we're saying the same thing.

Yeah, he had the surgery in 2016 then some weird biceps nerve issue in 2017 that kept him out 5 months, then the TJ in 2018. Lots of harm done to that arm. IDK!

The 5 TBD pre arb's are: Kopech, Cease, Heuer, Madrigal, & Foster = est $9.128m

Richards scares the crap out of me. He hasn't thrown 100 innings since 2015. At ~$10m, his cost/risk factor seems awfully high. I'm afraid he'd be DL'ed by June.

Nice site. But they have the pre arb est (TBD) for the 5 guys at $9.1m. That's got to be too high. Half that maybe?

Throw out 2020. He can be wild and give up some dingers but still eats innings at a decent era. He has a few blowups most mostly has solid outings. If has a good showing Tuesday, there'll be a lot of interested teams.

What makes you think that?

And Teheran's only stumble was caused by covid and no significant injuries over his strong career. I'd be very happy with either. Both would be better!

I completely forgot about Teheran. Hope Sox attend his session Tuesday. If his bad 2020 was due solely to his Covid issues, he could be a great bargain. Wonder what he's asking. His 7 years in Atlanta are really impressive! If he's back 100% healthy now, his arm has had virtually a year off, too.

Yep, we know Castillo's a beast, we assume Vaughn will be. That alone is why I would do it, too. The 3 years of team control/arb with Castillo is a sweet bonus.

Dad? Is that you?

oh, lol, yeah, I did. Yep that was the one. Agreed, the Sox didn't let Yermin and Collins grind it out back then. McCann came along, too, and took off and kind of interfered with any other plans. Speaking of which, I didn't like the Grandal signing at the time. I like Grandal but was unnecessary. Thought so then. Both great catchers but could have signed McCann for 3/4 years, 6-8 AAV and saved 10-12m cap space. Silly, stupid move. The Sox overplay the "big splash" way too much. KW ego gets in the way of logical thinking.

Yeah man, for a few years. For me this trade would be, Cinn say yes, I say "let's do it" but when ready to push button. go ummm wait, let me think about this again but then would probably follow through. lol