Rounding_Third

It doesn't matter. There're still going to try to get him a full MiLB 2021 season before making any decisions. Even RH alluded to that.

I am also very bullish on Vaughn. But I also challenge anyone to name at least 1 non-pitcher in the last 10 years who hasn't spent at least 1 full competitive season and/or 150-200 games working their way up the MiLB ladder; or Japan & Cuba (other?) leagues with whom MLB holds in high regard. White Sox intrasquad is not competitive baseball and I doubt if it carries much weight. Its just the way baseball is run. Orgs just don't start the FA clock with so little to go on. Vaughn is probably on a fast track as much as anyone ever has but he'll still have to pay his dues and prove he's ready.

Terrible news! What a hero! Endured so much! RIP Mr. Aaron!

= Lots and lots of >6 inning starts. Lots of guys can have nice inning totals and still not do that consistently. He does it better than most. Efficient with his pitches.

All you Leake'rs, nice option. Like him. Not sure if he'd be any cheaper though. At least a half dozen of these guys will probably sign for basically the $ give or take a mil unless Q takes a discount with Sox. Hopefully they find the one who outshines the rest.

His era kept improving through his full SP years; 15 through '17 until TJ. For most of that time, Richards' velocity was zero! Too many meaningless analytics. Just give me they guy who's best at keeping runs from crossing the plate over the longest # of innings vs his salary.

Is it just my perception or isn't notorious for getting ahead early in the count then picking at and missing the edges until 6-7 pitches later 2-2 & 3-2 counts? If so, this seems like it could be easily corrected by STOP DOING THAT!

2018 gives me glimmer of hope. If not SP, maybe give him a shot at long R. But if he's traded, I'd get over it quickly. Added: if he's traded and does well then no fault to RH. ReyLo got chance after chance.

This. I'd throw SH Asdrubal Cabrera in there too; a cheaper version of La Stella (2/3 discount) with good power from left side.

ReyLo's so very interesting. He's got the stuff. Sone day its going to click for him. Sox and others know it. It makes him good trade material and good to keep. Obviously, I'm right down the middle with him.

Not necessarily, I think I'd give that tag to Walker. Given both had TJ, Walker's younger and similar resume. Not sure going back 5-7 years ago with Richards, after all his arm trouble (bicep nerve shuts down bicep from working - crazy), is all that useful for measuring reward.

Me too. Sure would be great if he would take a bit of home town discount so we could squeeze La Stella in, too.

I think we're the same here. I don't want him because of his limited innings and extreme injury history. That's why his risk/cost ranks #1.

Why's that? Besides, $10m for a month or two? What?

Sort that list by risk factor/cost and he's #1.

What's his spin rate the last 5 years after 70 innings?

Does Arrieta appeal to anyone?

Roster resource as good as any payroll site, I guess. The have it sitting at $131.5m. But they also estimate 5 TBD pre arb guys, Kopech, Cease, Heuer, Madrigal, Foster, at $9m. Based on 2020 examples of same types, that correct pre arb $ total should not be more than $4.5m. Therefore, the actual payroll should currently stand around $127m. if I got that right (kind of fuzzy with this payroll stuff), they better have more to do. KH, don't tease the $130m-$140m number, if you really meant $125m-$130m. There are holes to fill and money to do it with. Do it ASAP for SP. It's the hottest part of the market right now. Could be a flurry and who would be left? Get your man, now!

However they do need a future 1B......

Agreed on Richards, too much medical stress on that arm over 5 years. Has a reasonable chance to be DL'ed by June. Not a good way to spend $10m, too risky with so many other options available.

I guess we'll continue to disagree. The strategy of poker is to win the night, not the hand. You can win the hand and still lose the night. Same applies to Sox. You have too much tunnel vision to understand my point.

With ya, makes more sense to judiciously spend the remaining budget to get a SP & DH combo, which means a lesser DH than Cruz. And La Stella is 2 roles of the price of one. After SP is signed and if not enough for La Stella, a cheaper version is Astrubal Cabrera do be the same duel role guy; a solid SH with good LH power And, not as critical but still smart, I would like to see a backup C. At only ~$2m, an astute tactical move.

You and I also debated this "all in" definition a while back, too. You seems to be locked in that it must mean this 1 year. To me, it means a 3-5 year window to be, on paper at least, a top end WS favorite for that time frame, beginning this year. It's a living, breathing, evolving process to stay there. I agree keeping a few aces up their sleeves to keep it going beyond this year is essential; $'s & prospects (for play or trade). Spending ~$140m this year is "all in" for a mid-market team in these uncertain times. JR is really taking a huge risk; respect & grateful to him for OK'ing it. Dealing a couple/few prospects can mean it too, if their return is key players for all or parts of that window. The main idea is that "all in" is more than just 1 year. Maybe we're saying the same thing.

Yeah, he had the surgery in 2016 then some weird biceps nerve issue in 2017 that kept him out 5 months, then the TJ in 2018. Lots of harm done to that arm. IDK!

The 5 TBD pre arb's are: Kopech, Cease, Heuer, Madrigal, & Foster = est $9.128m