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If the Sox pick him up and he pitches in the bigs, do the Sox take on the contract? If he's free we should pick him up. AAA pitcher right now.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 12:02 AM) I would put serious money on the whipping boy of 2013 or 2014 being Rios. Probably with good reason. I don't know about that. I think a lot of this is human nature. Rios is still considered "full of talent" by many and I think that makes him immune to criticism in some's minds. It's a weird phenomenon. I know SOME people on here rip Rios and Dunn, but really not many. For some reason a lot of people think Rios and Dunn are decent members of the team when in reality they in their own way are as bad as Pierre. Those are 3 very weak links in our order. Also, Mr. Ground ball/Can't throw anybody out AJ is a weakness along with Beckham. How anybody can consider us a true contender is beyond me, unless 3-4 of those five get going.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 03:46 AM) Well, I am officially hoping for Juan Pierre to pull a hamstring. And if that was not the prototypical Twins defeat of the White Sox, I don't know what is. QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 03:53 AM) The Sox are just mentally weak. There is no other explanation. QUOTE (southsidepride15 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 03:59 AM) Exactly. It's still only one game. Let's all cry ourselves to sleep now. QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 04:05 AM) They cant beat their own division. They havent been able to beat the twins in years. They cant beat the Tigers over the last year or so. I understand its one game, but this was the f***ing Rochester Redwings we faced tonight. Not the twins. 1.) I don't think it's luck anymore. The Twins laugh their asses off because they know how to beat us and do beat us over and over. 3-0 this year. I think it's going to be another lopsided season series in favor of Minnesota. Will we beat them once in Minnesota? Ever year it gets worse ag. them. 2.) How many games have we won after trailing after 7? I would say very few. I agree with you. One of the team's weaknesses is being mentally weak. 3.) Spare me. It's always one game but these Twins games are very annoying. 4.) We can't beat Minnesota. It's going to drive us all insane. Law of averages won't even take over. s***, just the fact when AJ is playing every Twins single turns into a double means the percentages are also against us when we play Minnie. How many runs will that mean for Minnesota in a 19-game season series?? Can Castro throw any better? We almost have to sit AJ. He can't throw any Twin player out!!!!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 02:24 AM) I thought we'd win both games to be honest. This Twins lineup is pathetic, and I thought Dunn would crush Pavano tonight. Seriously? After Minnie took 4 against KC in KC, I knew they weren't horrible enough to lose to us. We can't beat Minnesota. Case closed.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 02:23 AM) be honest none of you thought we had a prayer in this series right? the fact that MIN has the f***ing rochester red wings taking the field makes no difference only way we had any shot in this series would have been if Peavy and Humber were the starters (imo, the two guys in our rotation who i trust to get a win, too bad Peavy is in Charlotte...) As much as I hate Peavy's brittleness physically, I sort of agree. I think he'd welcome grabbing the ball and facing the Twinks despite the fact they own the Sox. Except ... It'd be 0-0 after nine with Jake and we'd lose in 10.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 02:21 AM) I want to get mad, but I think it's good that I don't care that much anymore. Prevents stress. Same here. I hope I revert back to my old self at some point, but for now, rattled by our April/May stinkbomb, I just simply expect us to lose every night, certainly against the Twins.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 02:18 AM) What else is new? What I don't understand is why Floyd was still in the game at that point with our bullpen so well-rested? Makes absolutely zero sense. I think there is some truth to the allegations Ozzeroo sort of gives up in certain games (vs. Minnie and when we are in the midst of losing streaks like in April/May). I think he just kind of leaves the s*** out there to see what will happen. Cause remember, this team doesn't erase deficits. When we're down, we are out (almost always).

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 02:15 AM) Jeez, have a clue Quentin. Stone was quite annoyed there. Stone also sounded annoyed at AJ's stellar defensive play(s). Kidding of course. Don't know how to make it green. But Stoney sounded flustered at AJ's s***tiness.

LOL. Two hours and five minutes. What an easy win for Minnesota. Sweep tomorrow. Good job, White Sox. You are owned.

If we lose, we should call up our AAA team for one night and let them try to beat the Twins. Go with our regular pitchers, however.

QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 02:01 AM) Every single is an automatic double against us, unless maybe it was Konerko hitting against us somehow, and even then it'd be close. It is laughable that the Twins' strategy always against the Sox is to steal almost every time a runner is on first. Throw a bunt in there once in a while. The automatic double does not help our chances of beating Minnie. Ha, another run.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 01:58 AM) They'd need a new GM and manager. That'd be fine with me.

It probably would be easier as a Sox fan to just forget about watching when we play the Twins, especially on the road. At home we might win one out of five or something.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 01:54 AM) 2 games, thankfully Thank God. I can't even imagine what the Sox need to do to win a series against the Twins.

Is this a 3-game sweep or just two game series?

And they play good defense against us.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 01:06 AM) The question is, why do all of our pitchers die against the twins? Whether it's by power or small stuff, we give up everything. It wouldn't look worse if they had our signs. They hit to all fields, they bunt, they steal at will against us. And they can hit the bomb against us occasionally.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 01:53 AM) Well that should just about do it tonight for another summer heartless effort by the sox. You could strap a twins uni on some girl scouts and they would frighten and beat our team. That is a good point. If you put the entire Twins AAA team on the field and let them use a ML pitcher, would they still own the Sox? Maybe so. Sox can't touch the Twinks. Don't know what it will take for it to change. Sox look beaten already with their little pop ups and weak grounders compared to good, grinder baseball.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 10:21 PM) Whatever year it is, we all know that you will be sniffing out the whipping boy of the year and letting us know about it Yeah, why wouldn't I? It's no fun seeing one player getting piled on unfairly.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 02:42 PM) I know you guys don't want to hear this but Juan isn't going anywhere and Dayan will not be replacing him anytime soon. It's amazing how every year there's that one guy the fans want to DFA more than win games it seems. Pods one year. This year it is Juan Juan Juan. If juan wasn't here, who'd be the whipping boy? Beckham? Cause Rios and Dunn still have a lot of internet supporters.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 09:20 PM) True, my leadoff hitter with the .324 OBP needs to do more than pull a 3-hit night out of his ass once a month for me to not hate him. Yet you don't blast Rios or Dunn or Beckham, who have sucked major balls? Pierre is not the devil, folks. The Sox can't replace four guys at once. If we lose tonight, I sense an epic meltdown in the game thread. If we get swept, the game threads will be monumentally brutal, wanting many heads to roll, Ozzie's being the first.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 06:55 PM) Wrong. There's definitely people that believe he deserves a roster spot. They just don't yell about it everyday, 10 times a day. Juan deserves a roster spot. He's not a .195 hitter like Dunn.

QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 08:40 PM) I'd like to see thornton back in there right now, personally, to see if he can hack it. It would be nice to see this team make moves before their non-decisions bury them. I think it's fair to say Matt is NOT a closer. We don't need to go there any more. I think Crain (gulp, I said it) could maybe do it for a while. I'm not crazy about Crain's control. I'm saying I wouldn't mind him closing once in a while, but it's sink or swim with Sergio this year. Matt can't do it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 04:40 AM) Greg, check out these twitter posts that show up when searching Ron Roenicke: AndrewSa888‎ And finally Ron Roenicke, Your way better than Ken Macha but your decisions are really annoying with the Bullpen and possible INT walks. Twitter - 99 1 minute ago ‎ cgbryant24‎ Ron Roenicke's completely incompetent bullpen managament and line-up construction are going to cost the #Brewers a playoff berth. Fire him. Twitter - 135 2 minutes ago ‎ detassler‎ Ron Roenicke may be worse than Ned Yost at managing a bullpen. Twitter - 194 3 minutes ago ‎ Chumpnasty‎ RT @BadgerNoonan: Ron roenicke should be fired for the last 2 games. Amazing incompetence. Twitter - 341 5 minutes ago ‎ BerniesCrew‎ The bullpen arms still have to get the job done -- but terrible job managing the bullpen tonight by Ron Roenicke. Just brutal. #Brewers Twitter - 346 5 minutes ago ‎ thegnc‎ Dear Ron Roenicke, STOP WASTING OUTS! Twitter - 490 8 minutes ago ‎ BadgerNoonan‎ RT @eznark: Ron Roenicke could not be worse at his job. #brewers Twitter - 527 8 minutes ago ‎ BadgerNoonan‎ Ron roenicke should be fired for the last 2 games. Amazing Wow. I think some managers don't believe in intentional walks to load the bases, cause it puts pressure on the pitcher to not walk the next guy, blah blah. But if he's against 'em completely, wow. I dont know anything about Ron R, but I do think most fans of teams rag on their manager when the team loses. It's too easy not to.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 03:35 AM) Greg, you'll be very happy to know that I've found a manager worse than Ozzie! Whom? Brewers' skipper? Cubs?