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97 pitches .. he could have finished and probably should have finished, but I understand why Oz would give it to Bobby. It's what managers do.

I don't know how many pitches he's thrown, but in the old days he'd have gotten the shutout. As you know, nowadays it's automatic to give it to the closer.

Oh no. The Wise topic will be back, cause you are right, he'll probably be in the lineup.

I don't think we're going to have to worry about Ozzie bunting and playing NL ball in the early innings. I seem to recall us messing up some bunts in late inning situations which probably necessitated his outburst. I'm more interested in tonight's outburst on Cowley's twitter. Who is he going to bench if he said the guys have quit on him and changes are coming?? Bobby was the key goat tonight, so he has to be one of them, but judging from his look in the dugout when Ichiro got his hit ... I don't know if he's quit. He just got hit. That would leave Dye, Rios, Liney (he also might have just got hit rather than quitting), maybe Lexi? AJP went 0-6 but he's been great. Quote of the year: "They horse(bleep)? Yes, they are.” (Oz on his team after tonight's game. “If they give up on me, I give up on them.’’

I don't think you can say we should never bunt. Occasionally, like in an extra inning game when you are the home team and the guy gets a lead off hit, bunting is in order. Or usually in order. I mean you get him to second and whack a single. But we more often than not can't put down a f***ing bunt. How can you argue that a bunt isn't called for in extra innings sometimes??

Wow. Well, he better mean Bobby as well, cause up to that point we had an efficient victory. Juding from the ENTIRE game, he better mean Dye, Rios. WHo else? And Liney.

Good point on the speed. You make good arguments there. CQ definitely has to get healthy and not be a .230 hitter. Little concerned if Pods, AJP and Paulie can repeat these kind of seasons. Maybe they can. We kind of wasted excellent seasons from all of them. Rios may need a new approach more than a fresh start. We have to replace Dye and solve the bullpen issues. If Peavy is a true dominant ace, maybe he'll set the tone for a strong rotation. We shall see.

Just think, if poor Jermaine had blooped a single in extra innings, we still probably would have won this game. He's in the worst slump in the history of humankind. Bobby giving up 2 dingers????

Not trying to argue with you. I just am not convinced. Pods, AJ and Paulie ... can they continue this excellence as they continue to age? Dye, Rios? Bobby, Liney? Bullpen questions. Not a lot of speed. Hope Oz can push the right buttons next year. As an Oz lover, I fear for his job if we have a disappointing season again.

I don't know about that Balta. Another way to look at it is it's a very weak division and we have never even come close to excaping the .500ism. I guess we can chalk it up to a bad year and start anew in the spring. The hope is we'll magically be a .600, not a .500 team. Not saying it can't happen, but now we have to add closer to our list of possible problems.

Can't argue with that. They might just decide all we need is a fresh start next spring, however. That might be dangerous trotting out Liney again next season.

5-7 since that win over the Cubs. Losers. Hope next year it all changes. I'm afraid Oz is gonna be on the hot seat if we don't get off to a good start next year. Team just drops too many games. Next year needs to be a different story.

Long plane ride home for the losers.

Liney makes a lot of money to suckkkkkk.

That pitch sucked.

get us out of this to Silva!!

If Liney gets out of this inning, anybody can hit Silva, right? Oops, man on base, hard hit off Liney.

Aha, Liney gets the loss unless he decides to man up.

One has to think we're about to check it in tonight. At some point, there's the "give up" factor. The offense can't score tonight since Bobby f***ed up.

This is simply hard to believe ... all the horrific at bats.

wow. hitting ineptitude.

Well, it's pretty obvious we're not gonna score. Unless ... Gordon HR?

That pitch mighta hurt a lot, though. Wasn't it gonna hit Pods on the knee?

I take it back; Dotel with strikeout stuff. Nice. Can't we score some runs??? WTF. Our bullpen exceot for Bobby has been great tonight. Why no runs?

Here it comes. Octavio doesn't have his strikeout stuff. Chopper off the plate setting up the winner. We is in trouble albeit some bad luck there.