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Oz talking to Griffey; he's one of a kind. No managers have the personality of Ozzie. Most are PR machines. He is awesome.

I'm on the record as saying, "Bring in Thornton."

Lots.

This guy is battling like AJ did.

Freddy has pitched so well; why can't he get a break and a win?? Cmon Octavio.

We are sort of a laughingstock on the road.

Agreed, not a great play, but a good bunt regardless.

Hope we get the good Dotel. f***, a bunt single. Not good.

I don't know about the mental thing. We just sucked on that road trip. It is crazy to me how one 10 day stretch (plus the 3-3 vs. the Royals and O's) can virtually end a season. Road games I guess have always been mental as well as physical. Teams rarely excel on the road, but 3-8 was really bad.

Paulie cares as well as AJP. Professional hitters both of 'em.

At least AJ is battling.

Bad at bat Pods; bad at bat Gordon.

How come the Sox can't execute?

A lot of teams' fans have been singing the "wait til next year" song for a long long time. Talent wins games. On paper we have a lot of talent next year just as we had on paper this year. We also have some holes.

I don't know about that. Many threads I've read just assume next year is our year. I guess it's because of Peavy.

I hope he doesn't come back just so somebody else can be the new whipping boy.

Why not games against the Cardinals more often than not?

What I don't get is why everybody thinks magically next season's lineup will be fine and score plenty of runs. Are people just assuming we're going to be a .600 team all of a sudden? Or are they assuming there will be changes?

The same ol does suck. Toronto will be good when we play 'em and Boston is impossible to beat on the road during the part of the season when things really matter. Hopefully we can start that 10 game road trip by beating Cleveland 2 of 3.

I meant to say in a court of law they could argue no way he'd be worth 18 mill next year. Why would the team automatically lose such a lawsuit?

This thread served as bad luck. We've dropped another game to them in the loss column since it was started and they haven't lost since it was started. I'm still trying to figure out how one season can go down the drain on one roadtrip. I hope we have no obvious losing roadtrips like that 10 gamer next year. It was patently unfair. No team in the Central is going to win at NY and boston that time of year and making us go to Minnie added insult to injury.

I'd rather see Jake than Torres. I bet you if we were mathematically eliminated, we wouldn't see Peavy this year. It's probably a way to say we haven't given up and it might add some fans in the stands, too. I just hope he doesn't get hurt in a meaningless outing or two.

I believe you, southsider, but if the clause is he has to reach a certain number of at bats, why couldn't the team go to court and in its defense say, 'Yes, your honor, we decided to not play him so we wouldn't have to pay him 18 million next year. We feel that is our right as an organization, that's why we put that in the contract." I just wonder why it would be a no brainer for the player to win over the team. The stats prove he's not worth 18 mill.

Because the season is almost over. Those other guys have been playing every day. This guy has been out most of the year. It just seems stupid to me to trot him out there 5 innings in one or two starts if we can't win the division. If you tell me we still are in the race, fine, I guess. I for one am not counting on what would be probably the greatest comeback of all time. We're running out of games and I just see no reason to pitch him. I guess I'm in the vast minority. I'd rather have him come back in the spring and earn the opening day start, etc., in what most feel could be a much better year for our team.

I'm already looking forward to spring training while doing the normal things in life today. I do think something has to give next year. If we are mediocre to sub .500 again, I wonder if Jerry will have to let Oz go. I love Oz, but our team is passionless or at least appears to be. I hope our rotation kicks ass, our bullpen becomes serviceable, and Oz is here a long time.