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Great great win. Exciting and Wimpy was a pleasure to listen to. GO SOX.

QUOTE (hi8is @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:14 AM) What a fantastic game. Maybe Q gets a 1 hit complete game loss? There is no doubt we're getting walked off folks.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:13 AM) Stop trying to make Anderson a leadoff hitter Agreed

Damn the Sox are gonna get walked off again.

Do you guys honestly believe this is it for Trump? This is not the end. Not enough stuff unless he just decides to quit. Howard Stern was so right in advising him to not stay in the race. Trump is so much fun for the media right now. They are in a race to see who gets the story that will be remembered all time like Watergate. Trump is going down, but the reason has yet to be unveiled. It's gonna take more than this, folks. It will happen, but there has to be more than this.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 19, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) In 2013 they won 92 games and made the WC. Lebron was in Miami. The Indians drew more than 100,000 less than the White Sox lowest total this century, and every couple of months we read on this site how the White Sox have to move. It is the risk of getting very bad. The fans find something else to do, and they don't come back. To get a good seat at a baseball game, you have to pay a ransom. Just to eat a little bit and drink a little bit you have to pay a fortune. A lot of people find out they don't need it. Some diehards still want to go watch baseball, but if the Sox finish last this year and the next two years and are out of it in May all 3 years, I'd expect the franchise may not survive that. Also the product is very boring thanks to the umps who allow snail's paced play. Also the chess games after the sixth inning and the shifts. Baseball is very boring right now. Many teams have horrible hitters, the White Sox right at the top of the list. I would assume the rules of the game will change drastically, but it may take several years for the older traditionalists to pass on. I don't know what it will take for the umps to try to help the game. THey are playing a little game in which they do what they want to do and there's not much that can be done to get them to care about the game of baseball and speed up the pace of play.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 19, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) The chances of Trump starting a large war to distract from his bulls*** is very high. Dont underestimate his stupidity. That is an excellent point. I do expect war soon.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 19, 2017 -> 06:45 AM) This stuff gets annoying. You're allowed to enjoy this team however you want but don't tell others what they can or can't do either. El Rockin is the "best fan" on this site. He's saying a good fan does not want his team to lose, not calling anybody out. Look this is a modern thing rooting for your own team to lose, started by Sixers and their fans. This tanking thing is a new phenomenon and a lot of us think it is UNHEARD of to want your team to lose, that's all.

I think we have two warships right in the vicinity of North Korea now (CNN). You wait, this is extremely serious, folks. My question is, what would happen if we actually drop a bomb or two on them or try to take out their leader? Who would respond against us if anybody? Would China or Russia attack the USA? Hawaii or ? Or would we be OK. I think Trump is unstable and I am fully expecting some type of incident in Korea sooner rather than later. Their leader is endangering the USA with his threats of striking us and I feel like Trump is gonna send the dogs out so to speak. Comments? Caulfield? Somebody assure me we're ok.

I'd close this thread now el rockin as you and me will probably get in trouble cause WE WANT TO WIN GAMES!!

QUOTE (fathom @ May 19, 2017 -> 05:22 AM) Two games was the difference between being able to draft Benintendi instead of Fulmer. Everyone should remember that when hoping they win pointless games this year Who cares? Sox probably would have taken Fulmer anyway knowing the Sox scouts.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 19, 2017 -> 05:29 AM) There is no such thing and you don't wish for your team to tank for a draft pick Amen elrockin. I am in your corner! I HATE losing and hate the draft. GO SOX.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 19, 2017 -> 05:19 AM) Sorry but I'm not buying into a good loss I agree elrockin. Horrible loss. Sox as expected are going to have one gawd awful road record this season. I don't see how Hawk wants to broadcast so many losses. I mean they'll win a handful of home games so to speak. I fully expect this Sox team to have the worst record in the AL. That will please you draft lovers. Like the Sox will draft and sign the right guy like Fulmer and Rodon. They'll probably draft a pitcher again. Sad that this team blows. Glad to see Anderson wake up though. Only bright spot, along with Avi and Davidson. he has 7 homers which has him on pace to have a pretty good power year maybe. Pitching is embarassingly bad as well as the lineup. The draft lovers are gonna get their wish. Worst team in the AL.

Good to see Anderson fight back and get his average going upward.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 18, 2017 -> 02:13 PM) Man, after yesterday, the big lesson is clear: Do NOT piss off the media and intelligence community together We finally agree on something 100 percent. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 18, 2017 -> 03:02 PM) He pissed off the media during the entire election cycle yet here we are with him as President. Not a bad point. However, at that time the media was somewhat preoccupied with other stories like Hillary and Bernie. Now it's all Trump, all the time. Hillary and Bernie (for a while until his 15 minutes of fame ended) were worth writing about as well. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 18, 2017 -> 10:52 PM) Nothing is easier or more pathetic than being a critic-Trump during his commencement speech. That is comedy gold coming from him. Reality doesn't exist in his world. I recommend everybody youtube Will Farrell commencement speech at USC. Not perfect humor but funny and worth a listen IMO.

QUOTE (FT35 @ May 18, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) I think a lot of it has to do with the removal of the expectation of winning. The focus for the team is on developing a good culture, playing hard, developing into the best player you can be, learning from your mistakes and having fun doing so. That "vibe" has made its way to the crowd. I noticed a big difference in the atmosphere last Friday too. The last few times I've been to games, the fans (along with the players) have almost been tense--pressing. The focus was on the mistakes the team was making because they were sold as a team who was all in and going for it. Now the environment is more positive and more forgiving as fans encourage the team to play better--we're maybe even a little surprised when they win--it's an added bonus instead of a temporary exhale before getting back to the frustration mindset. We know there is money coming off the books at the end of the year, we know there's a historically large FA class coming up, we know there's big promise in the system, we know we have a few guys performing now who we NEVER thought would be in the mix, we know the weather is getting nice and tickets are cheap--when all that comes together, you get a sense of satisfaction. I thought the rebuild would be brutal, but it's actually a great time to be a Sox fan and consume baseball at the park. And for new fans, it's a great time to get in on the ground level of what could be an exciting time in the franchise's history. Man, I'd hire you for the P.R. department right now. You spin it to where people would really want to go to a game when the product on the field is horses***. I'm not being sarcastic. Nice job. You did say "I thought the rebuild would be brutal." Hey, give it some time. This team by all accounts is really really lousy and is about ready to start losing at the same clip as of a year ago. If they don't and somehow sniff .500 Renteria should be manager of the year in the AL.

QUOTE (turnin' two @ May 18, 2017 -> 08:40 PM) Since becoming a full tine closer, Robertson has a save % just above 85%. The NL East: Jeurys Familia is 86% AJ Ramos is 82% Jim Johnson is 80% Hector Neris is 55% (very few opportunities) So, Robertson would pretty much become the best closer in the division. Some others, for reference. Kenley Jansen has a % of about 89% Francisco Rodriguez is about 85% Huston Street is 86% Roberto Osuno is 83% Zach Britton is 94% Aroldis Chapman 90% Seung Hwan Oh 85% Wade Davis 87% Mariano Rivera 89% So by comparison, Robertson is a serviceable closer, and more importantly a huge upgrade over anything the Nats currently have. Nice post by you. Hopefully teams will look at that and give the Sox some good return.

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ May 18, 2017 -> 07:54 PM) There is no way in hell that Robertson brings back Robles. Rizzo would hang up the phone on that ask and instruct Hahn to call back when he is serious. Robertson is severely overvalued around these parts. He is not that good and won't bring back much at all. I'm not piling on Hahn (I'm not convinced he's a great GM candidate yet), I'm just saying Robertson was lights out until his last what, 2 outings? Now he's human again, so good luck trading the average version of Robertson. If you can get an organization's top 10 prospect, grab that along with a couple projects from A ball and make it 3 for 1 and be done with it. I realize "nobody was willing to trade" a couple weeks ago when Robertson was hot. So either wait until he gets red hot again, or try to dump him to the Nats now while they need a closer and see if you can get a top 10 prospect from them.

QUOTE (hi8is @ May 18, 2017 -> 06:43 AM) I could see us losing about 30 of our next 40 games. Definitely, this is the team built for the long haul we're seeing. Mediocre to crap starting pitching on paper. Horses*** bullpen cept for the above average closer on paper. Ridiculously bad lineup on paper. Also horrific defense and only average speed to a bit below average on the basepaths. Losing 30 of 40 is a good prediction.

Sox will acquire Maybin when he's 33 and he'll have a Melky like career with the Sox luck.

Sox need to trade Q and Robertson ASAP cause Robertson already has hit the "being human" stage. Nobody else is tradeable.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 18, 2017 -> 04:07 AM) So about that trade value for Gonzalez. He has nothing 3rd time out of last 4 Not saying you thought we would, but no way we were getting anything for Gonzalez for gosh sakes. He's just another guy. Ditto Holland. Ditto Frazier. Ditto Melky. These guys are worth little to nothing. Nate Jones as well. He aint bringing anything useful folks.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ May 16, 2017 -> 07:49 PM) It's entirely true, though. The Bulls literally couldn't have done worse than they did this year. They're bad, out in the first round, they don't have a tier 1 superstar, their front office is still in tact. The Bulls are lodged in NBA hell. Those are two long innings.

Just my opinion: This one won't be the end of Trump. The next one will be the impeachable offense. He still probably won't last a full year.

QUOTE (FT35 @ May 17, 2017 -> 06:58 PM) This is a solid investigation of stats and reasoning! I like Tyler, but I never saw what many others did when they were calling for him to start. I see him more of a journeyman bench player--a Tony Graffanino player comp. Gloves have a way of finding roster spots in MLB. I think he's better than what he is now--but I couldn't tell you exactly what he is right now. It looks like someone watched him hit a few bombs in batting practice and told him that he had what it takes to be a power hitter in this league and to swing as hard as he can ALL the time. I don't remember this being where he found his success in the past. I think you are right. He does swing awfully hard. I think he's done. Too old to reinvent himself now. Just another flop. I was convinced he was an above average hitter.