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QUOTE (Iwritecode @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:17 PM) Where did this fear come from? I haven't heard of any random beheadings happening anywhere in the country. You just described every sports talk radio show in Chicago. a.) When we had all the beheadings on video overseas and there was talk ISIS would do it to us here. b.) Sports talk radio shows here go 10-15 minutes at a time before commercials hit. If you listen to Limbaugh, the most you'll hear is maybe 3 minutes of him yapping then he urgently says he needs to go to a commercial break. And reading those ads for those quack products/services lets me know the host is a flat-out moneymaking liar. Some of these commercials are for things as ridiculous as buying land in the middle of the desert.

QUOTE (knightni @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:13 PM) You see Greg, Trump lied. Of course he lies. He's not a good guy, folks.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:01 PM) You listen to Rush. Nothing should horrify you I listen to Rush sometimes when I'm in the car at lunch hour. I get a kick out of a.) how he'll talk 'maybe' 2-3 minutes and then they immediately 'have to go' to a commercial and wonder how the hell people can listen to a whole program with so many commercials. b.) i am amazed by those those commercials in which that the host reads a testimonial statement in which he endorses the quack product and pretends sometimes he uses the product. That's all you need to know about the host. That he's endorsing some company that will get the IRS off your back or some such ripoff product. Sure. Anything for a buck. Even my idol, Howard Stern, reads these bulls*** ads. If no commercial is on when I click on Rush's show and I'm in the car driving to lunch, yeah I'm a fan of his takes. BTW: TMZ reports: "Trump family sources tell us Barron was in front of the TV watching a show when the news came on and he saw the bloody, beheaded image. We're told he panicked and screamed, "Mommy, Mommy!" As it was put to us, "He's 11. He doesn't know who Kathy Griffin is and the head she was holding resembled his dad." Melania called out Kathy, saying what she did was disturbing, wrong and "makes you wonder about [her] mental health." President Trump also blasted Griffin for posing with the head, saying, Barron was having a hard time dealing with it." Hmmm ... fishy. He was watching a TV show then the news mysteriously came on with the Griffin story?? I doubt that. First of all, what TV show is going to show the bloody picture?

CNN says "Comey to testify publicly about Trump pushing him to end an FBI probe into an aide's Russia ties" So Trump should be impeached/fired on an "obstruction of justice" charge by Christmas. I doubt he'll want to have long hearings on impeachment, so perhaps he'll pull a Nixon and quit. We'll have one year of Trump as president, then we get the Veep taking over. So Comey winds up being a huge factor in Trump winning and THE factor in Trump being impeached/fired. Interesting. Comey arguably is one of the most important individuals in history.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:53 PM) CNN canned her from their fake New Year's Eve broadcast. Good. The network called the photos "disgusting and offensive." Having her in Times Square with millions of people would have been a very bad idea. The chances of violence would be pretty huge.

QUOTE (Tony @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:46 PM) Your exact words: "OK fine but I can't believe many people on here aren't horrified by Griffin." This isn't about having a discussion. We are already doing that. You made the statement that you are surprised more people aren't "horrified" by her. So I ask again. What more do you want from people? Read some of the initial posts from people on here. The best you could get out of them was a "yeah, but...." response. Yeah I was surprised more people weren't horrified by Griffin and her actions. But I defend her right to do this. She didn't break any laws and free speech is the best. In some countries she'd be murdered by now for what she did. Here you have the right to do it and I applaud that right 100 percent. However I did expect more condemnation on here from the Trump haters because Griffin's actions were pretty horrific. UNLESS I'm missing the Warhol-excellence of her artisticic display. Maybe this will be remembered as one of the great expressions of art of all time, like Warhol's Campbell soup display. If I'm missing something excellent, shame on me. Though I was never a big fan of Kathy Griffin, I did think she was moderately funny on New Year's Rockin Eve show with Anderson Cooper.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:43 PM) So Trump tried to hint Barron was affected by it. Did they show it to him or did he find it on his own? If he found it on his own, I'm sure he would have easily found the grab em by the p**** stuff. What was his take on that? Personally, while I think the entire thing was wrong, I think Trump is using his kid for sympathy. That is also disgusting. Maybe not as much, but disgusting. Not a bad take. It's pretty obvious Trump's kid hadn't seen it yet until Donny showed him the pic. Nobody's going to talk about that at school, if school is still in session. I doubt the kid at 10 surfs all the news websites like tmz.com and Twitter. Your take is reasonable. Nobody ever said Trump wasn't disgusting himself. He is a creep no doubt. And assuredly he lied about this. Somebody should call him on it and figure out if Trump's kid did see it, how did he see it? Trump probably showed him the pic.

QUOTE (Tony @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:37 PM) It's 2017 and we just went through the election. Using the word "horrified" to describe ANYTHING Kathy Griffin does is ridiculous. She's an idiot. It was a terrible PR stunt gone wrong and her career is going to pay for it, as it should. What more do you want? Well, I personally saw it on Twitter where it was posted and HAD to look at it as I use Twitter. So it was thrust upon me giving me the right (I thought) to express displeasure about it during the news cycle of the incident. What more do I want? I don't think it's unreasonable to discuss it and give an opinion on it since we're not even 24 hours removed from the initial post of it on Twitter where I had to look at it and go, OMG that's Trump's head, WTF is this? What kind of question is, 'What more do I want?" Can't we discuss things that happen, even when it involves criticizing a Trump hater?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:28 PM) I thought you hated the PC police, Greg? I thought you were all about people speaking their mind? She definitely has the right to do what she did. I applaud her use of Free Speech. I have no problems with her doing "what" she did. Personally? I was grossed out by it. I don't think it was funny. As you may recall I wrote some stuff on here about how we have to add having our heads chopped off to the list of things we need to worry about every day walking the streets or going to the movies. At any moment somebody might come out of nowhere and chop our heads off. So PERSONALLY I didn't like it. Generally I didn't like it as it depicts murder of the president. As far as her right to do it? I applaud her for using her free speech ticket. But like Sinead O'Connor, she will pay with the end of her career. In short ... I love we live in a country where you can do something like that and not get arrested or killed in response by the president who you implied you wanted dead (I know, it's a joke) ... but I also am PERSONALLY turned off by it and feel with free speech comes repercussions and for her that means the end of her career. But I am all for her speaking her mind. I think I have the right to be personally grossed out and offended and concerned. I mean nobody can really explain the joke or the message it was supposed to convey. We haven't had Andy Warhol-like humor in a while; I guess it was Warhol-ish.

Man this disgusting incident is bringing out the "yeah, but ...." crowd. It's pretty horrifying to hold up a decapitated fake head with fake blood dripping down in the video portion. And it's clearly Trump being depicted. Pretty gross and inappropriate and f***ing stupid all at the same time. Definitely not good comedy. Yeah I guess we could bring up all the other incidents like the hanging in effigy of President Obama and Ted Nugent and all that and get mad about them as well. But this one is current. It was despicable and yeah, I do hope her career is ruined over it. There's a chance it could be. She mainly does standup gigs. Vegas now wants nothing to do with her and the smaller venues won't touch her as well. Maybe we who hate it are snowflakes. I just don't care to joke about cutting peoples heads off when that actually is a tactic of one of our enemy's. I guess some of you want to bring up all the horrible examples of inappropriate behavior. OK fine but I can't believe many people on here aren't horrified by Griffin.

Golden State in four or five. Granted the regular seasons means nothing, but GS had a much better season and it's the Warriors' year. Bet the house on GS in four or five, covering the spread in the wins.

So Kathy Griffin the comic thought it was wise/funny to hold a severed bloodied head (fake of course) of Trump in a photo shoot that was all over TMZ and other outlets. The head was pretty grotesque as in the video portion of the shoot, the head is dripping fake blood, etc., pretty gross and the immediate response of anybody with a brain is it's very unappealing to the eye. Some might even conjure images of ISIS beheading people. Any way... There's been an uproar on social media. She's already issued an apology on Twitter and Facebook. Already MGM resorts in Vegas says she has no concerts with them in future; some casino canceled her upcoming appearance; CNN says it will assess her role on New Year's Rockin Eve; Anderson Cooper denounced what she did. People are calling for boycotts of anybody who has anything to do with her. All I can say is ... unwise career move for Ms. Griffin. The photo looks pretty realistic. It's not funny in any way. Makes you wonder how people with a brain make these type career decisions. Even if it went over well with the anti Trump people (which it hasn't; Chelsea Clinton called it "vile") you would think she'd know it's career suicide. How can anybody risk having her perform in their club/casino/TV show when there could be violence at said club/casino/TV show in response to her violent picture? What do u guys think? I think Griffin made a big mistake and the country is outraged. Free Speech is AWESOME but with it come consequences. And by holding up a severed fake head of Trump, she probably has pulled a Sinead O'Connor and could be done. What do u say?? p.s. This has been a weird Tuesday for greg. Melky becomes one of my all time faves by batting and getting a hit after getting hit HARD in the face with a foul ball and Chelsea Clinton is one of the first celebrities to denounce what Griffin did. I'm already a fan of Melky for life now. And I am feeling pretty positive vibes toward Chelsea at this time, taking a stand so quickly against Ms. Griffin's distasteful display.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 31, 2017 -> 04:12 AM) One thing about this team is they don't give up That's something I've never taken too much stock in. I don't think many teams flat out quit, sports cliches be darned. I do LOVE what Melky did tonight. So cool. He showed guts. I respect you Melky.

They should eject the nut on the broadcast who is doing the Howard Dean scream.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:56 AM) We can still win this year Yes! Leave it to Elrockin to end on a high note! Elrockin I worship you, but how can you look at this roster and see anything but last place in the Central?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:17 AM) I don't think he's a starting pitcher, but also if the Sox lost two more games that year, they would have got Benintendi Cool. At least you admit Fulmer may be a bust. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:31 AM) You keep saying Pedro Alvarez and Mike Trout like they are ultimate trump cards in this argument you keep dragging out. A draft is tricky for any team, any sport. Players improve at different rates, they regress, some of them plateau. That doesn't mean you completely discount draft position and say "who f***ing cares where we pick? I might get a Mike Trout anywhere." Some players like Bonds and Harper and Griffey actually live up to the billing where they are drafted and made their teams contenders. Fulmer might be a bust he might figure it out and be a mainstay in the rotation. Nobody knows what he is yet Yeah, but if you are looking at this logically, the risk of the draft is what "should" prevent teams from tanking and fans wanting their team to lose. The obvious pick might be a huge bust. In the meantime the joy of winning can not be denied. Look at this season, what if you are a 7th grader Sox fan. You are watching the game with your dad and all excited, but dad inexplicably gets mad and says, "Dammit we need to lose this game!" "Why dad?" "Cause we need the best draft pick possible during this rebuild, son! Don't you get it??"

You will never hear me blast Melky again. For him to do what he just did was legendary. Melky baby! I now am OK with Melky signing an extension if he wishes.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2017 -> 04:10 AM) Arguing that Fulmer is a bad pick and believing meaningless wins in a non-contending season are important is just comical to me Do you agree Fulmer has been trash this season in terms of his stuff? I'm really surprised a guy as smart as you thinks it's OK to root for losses. I mean the reward from rooting for losses is a .... better draft pick. Pedro Alvarez ... Mike Trout are calling you on this one.

It's obvious Q will be a White Sox the rest of the season. Nobody's going to give up anything of note for him. The question is ... why does he reek? He had that one game where he was the old Q, but aside from that he's been Humber-like. So let's settle down and forget about trading him. It ain't gonna happen so let's hope for the best and hope he becomes Q again.

Too bad our bats have died. This would have been a nice game to outscore the Bosox.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2017 -> 04:02 AM) You know who was managing the White Sox 10 years ago, right? Ozzie was bad at the end, but I contend he's the best manager in Sox history. Yes, he beats out Al Lopez who led the Sox to the World Series in 1959.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) Just more flippant comments. Biden runs for president, despite his family's personal difficulties, and he beats Trump, we're not having this conversation. Merrick Garland is still probably blocked by the GOP for some other lame excuse, though. Then again, Rabbit investigative journalism on the Biden sons' marital relations might have turned the tide to the GOP. Biden couldn't run for gosh sakes, he'd have been lambasted by all Demos. It was Hillary's turn, it was Hillary's time, it was Hillary's right to be President and she had to be the nominee. Biden would have been seen as the creep who ruined the Demos chances of winning by splitting the party during the primaries. Bernie was seen as too clownish to be a real threat. The Democrats put up with him for a while.

QUOTE (Tony @ May 30, 2017 -> 08:58 PM) It's worked out real well the last 10 years. You know who our manager was, right?

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ May 31, 2017 -> 02:08 AM) If the Sox had role players like Yolmer, Leury, Davidson etc playing well in previous seasons the rebuild likely never would have started. If we had a manager the rebuild would not have been necessary. Robin was that bad. Second worst manager in Sox history. To Bevington of course. QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2017 -> 02:24 AM) Between Q, Rodon, Giolito (until recently), Lopez, Fulmer...it's a mystifying season for almost all of the Sox pitching prospects other than Kopech. And this game's on a 4+ hour pace. Good god, it has been slow. More like 4 1/2 hours. Fulmer looks like a miserable first-round pick. And many of you live for the draft, for shame. Rodon meanwhile could go either way. QUOTE (oldsox @ May 31, 2017 -> 02:37 AM) This loss is on Renteria. ?????? QUOTE (flavum @ May 31, 2017 -> 02:44 AM) This is Quintana's 162nd career start. The Sox are 74-87 in his starts. I've been told so many times on this board wins and losses mean NOTHING. So throw that stat out please. I'm surprised Sale sucked tonight. Thought he'd throw a one-hitter or no no with about 15 Ks. His pitches were for the most part screaming "hit me" just like Q's pitches.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2017 -> 02:16 PM) One thing I think we can take from the season so far is that the AL Central is pretty bad. We have done very well against it, but pretty badly against the rest of baseball. That's what I was saying, why I want to try to win it every year. Our division sucks.