Everything posted by greg775
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Bill Maher does something very stupid
QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 07:41 PM) He's on HBO. He ain't getting fired for calling himself that. It was stupid to say something so ignorant in such a loose manner but anyone who says Maher is racist knows nothing about his track record of support. It's hilarious that people on the right label him as a liberal after this when he has no affiliation to either side outside of donating to Obama in 2012, which he has said on the show he kind of regrets because he wanted Obama to legalize weed nation wide. I'm a little surprised people are backing Maher. If Hannity had said this, people would DEMAND his firing. He said the N word on his show for gosh sakes. Also the Kathy Griffin thing. The Washington Post says to forget about it? Cmon. If somebody did this to Obama or Hillary, hold their fake severed heads? That person might have to move to Canada. For sure that person would not work again.
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Bill Maher does something very stupid
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 07:47 PM) Maybe someday you will hold politicians to the same standards you hold comedians. Here's some things your boy Rush has had to say over the years. I bet you tune in on Monday without hesitation. And when you do and he calls for Mahers head, just remember who is talking. http://www.alternet.org/20-most-racist-thi...h-has-ever-said I guess you don't believe me and think I'm a liar when I described my Rush listening habits consisted of occasionally listening to a 3 minute segment prior to one of his liar commercials in which he pretends to use the product. To summize: When driving (I don't listen to radio on internet ever), I switch from 610 radio to 810 radio sports talk to classic vinyl on sirius over to 980 radio and rush. If Rush is not in a commercial I'll listen for a segment, change when it hits a commercial and maybe get one more segment. If it's really good stuff, I may delay going in the lunch meeting place for one more 3 minute segment. I enjoy his defense of Trump and rips of the media and can't believe these radio hosts pretend to use these products during the fake commercials.
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Yet another attack in England...
Awful. Horrible. I'm sickened.
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The environment thread
QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 02:28 AM) Greg I'm no expert. If that was sarcasm then funny funny. I just meant by Mr. Environment that I'm one of the many that really cares about the issue. I just always thought this whole deal was a big f***up waiting to happen. As someone above mentioned, without the battery technology this is a giant waste of time and money. And it was like a free pass to wait 5-10 years to address the issue, because Nicaragua is right, there's no accountability. The $100B slush fund (as a baseline i believe) was basically going to line the pockets of major energy companies because obviously many countries that would "benefit" from the money haven't the technology or infrastructure to do it themselves or utilize any of the money properly. So BigBoyOil and BigBoySolar and BigBoyFilter were going to travel the world "helping" these countries but running out of money immediately to do anything substantial. "We need trillions more". All this money needs to go to research IMO, all of it. I mean all these countries are agreeing to limit emissions already, why does the world need to shell out trillions on something that doesn't work like bandaids without adhesive. Or using chewing gum to help the titanic float for another minute. If we all figure out a way to harness and store the sun correctly then that is the time to invest and save the planet. Meanwhile, everybody do what you can and share what you discover. I think what Trump did was bring more attention to an issue that needed it. It's pointless without policing it. Thanks for the post!
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2017 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 07:48 PM) No, he is not technically a democrat, which is one of the issues in my opinion. You know why Biden didn't run, right? Of course he is a democrat, just as Trump is a republican, wink wink on both. I know why Biden didn't run. Sure it was family reasons. But you don't think he'd have run if the DMC made it clear he was the person the party wanted and the country needed? Biden isn't dumb. It was all Hillary all the time and he'd have been considered a traitor to the party by running. He knew it was Hillary coronation time and he couldn't be the rat who spoiled Hillary's coronation. Do you really believe Biden wouldn't have run, even though he was grieving, if the coronation was his?? Again ... everybody on the democratic side was convinced it was Hillary's turn, Hillary making history. Perfect scenario. She would roll to victory, be rewarded for her lifelong service and be the first female president to boot. Biden couldn't spoil that party. He'd have been such a rat for trying to get in the way of the Hillary train. The Democrats didn't want a competitive primary season yet outside of the higher ups in the party, Hillary was despised by so many voters she actually faced decent competition from old, socialistic Bernie (who I happen to love). I'm not trying to be insensitive to Mr. Biden, whom I love as a politician. His grief was real and true. I'm saying if it was made clear to him he was the popular choice of everybody, he'd have run.
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Just Sayin: 17-13 Against The Division
QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 10:06 PM) Because losses position the White Sox to situate themselves close to winning a championship, which is the goal. Through a draft pick? Give me a break. Alvarez was picked SECOND; where was Trout picked? Beckham? Just be smart and pick the right guy. Fulmer? Great pick. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 02:07 AM) If they end up with the 3rd pick or the 5th pick instead of the 1st, it doesn't really matter. Exactly. I can't believe there are Sox fans who want the team to lose every game it can for six solid months. It's ridiculous. This team is going to lose so many games it will make your head spin. You don't have to root for that, it's going to happen. But as far as the draft, geez, if you have a s*** record you are going to get a good pick. Then it's up to your scouts to pick a good player. Like you said it matters not whether you get the third pick or the 13th. You ought to be able to get a star. Oh wait, there are no guarantees in baseball. Also, you are counting on a front office that drafted Rodon and Fulmer high, an organization always in love with pitchers. You guys give Hahn too much credit. Give me free agency and sign some proven players to go with the stars we already have. And the draft picks we get naturally for sucking. No need to root for losses; Sox will lose 90 plus this season in their sleep, still could lose 95 or more.
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Bill Maher does something very stupid
QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 07:11 PM) This is ridiculous. Maher says insensitive nonsense like this every week. Simply because he uses a particular word shouldn't set people off. It strikes me as faux outrage and disingenuous that because he said a certain word that should implicate the audience in something they weren't already implicated in by the same exact substance simply without the N word explicitly used. It's a big deal. He just apologized and the network statement prior to that was forceful. The Black Lives Matter leader called for his firing.
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The environment thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 06:58 PM) The rest of the world has already told Trump to f*** off and said they're not renegotiating. Abandoning a global agreement that almost every country in the world signed on to while not offering any actual criticisms of the agreement and having your entire administration shot through with climate denialist isn't taking leadership. We have an expert on this thread in Jerksticks and nobody wants his opinion? Hmmm. I'll bite. Jerksticks, please tell me more about how the Paris accord fails and tell me about your concerns of the future? And answer this Q: Was Trump smart in doing what he did? Or was it a bad move? What is your opinion of the latest glacier breaking off? http://www.businessinsider.com/antarctica-...king-off-2017-6
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Just Sayin: 17-13 Against The Division
QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 2, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) I maintain that there is no reason for us to root for losses, the losses will come. That is an excellent sentence by bmags. He's right. I fully endorse that statement. Why root for losses? They are coming in droves and will continue to come in bunches. QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 05:03 AM) Like in any sport, worse you do, better the draft. Why does anyone want this team to win right now? Absolutely idiotic, hence the reply to the thread.... Cubs rebuild, they sucked, that's good........... Uh, you asked the question, do you really want my answer? I'll spare everybody my answer just put in the code words (Fulmer, Alvarez, Trout, Rodon), but I should print it again since you called my stance "idiotic." I'll conclude by saying, "Just.Win.Baby!"
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2017 Democratic Thread
QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 07:36 PM) Why should the party leadership have supported Bernie? He isn't a democrat. I gave you two choices, Bernie, somewhat radical, and Biden, always professional, very likeable by most all. In answer to your question, well, he ran as a Democrat, so technically he IS a Democrat no matter what you suggest. If he's not a Democrat, why was he allowed in the Democrat debates and primaries? Party leadership backed the wrong person and is partly to blame for the mess we are in, cause like I said, Biden or Bernie would have been fine as president. With Trump it's a matter of WHEN he's dismissed, not IF. Hillary had another awful week this past week. Trump is ALWAYS having a bad week. Meanwhile, Biden and Bernie say, "Hi."
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The environment thread
QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 07:21 PM) Please respond to Jerksticks' post. My feeling is he is gonna KILL on this issue since he's an expert on it.
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2017 Democratic Thread
Hillary had a bad week blaming the DNC, reminding people that she was not the answer. Trump is Trump and has bad weeks every week. That said, will people finally admit to me that Bernie and/or Biden would have been great? The Democratic party would be on Cloud Nine right now with either. Biden woulda been the safer choice, a guy who everyone probably would have loved. Bernie a little more radical, but lovable as well.
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The environment thread
QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 07:09 PM) I'm glad we took the lead here. Took some balls. Now let's fix the climate the right way, whatever that is. As a climate activist myself, I feel like the Paris Agreement just kicked the can down the road. The CEOs of the major energy companies are pissed because the money won't be as easy and the idiots are mad because they think this means "pollute, pollute, Trump hates the Earth." Such idiocy. We can do better than "let's each put a filter on a smokestack", which was basically what this deal was. Always hated it, and I'm Mr. Environment. Great post Jerksticks. Folks, here is "Mr. Environment" who thinks the Paris Agreement "kicked the can down the road." He "always hated it." So once again over-reaction to Trump who has said he wants to re-negotiate the USA's participation. Jerksticks knows this issue and realizes we have to DISCUSS this to "fix the climate the right way, whatever that is." The national reaction to Trump's decision like Conway said is "hysterical." As in hysteria. Folks should listen to Jerksticks and CALM DOWN.
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Bill Maher does something very stupid
I'm like Oprah I don't even like to write N-word much less write the full word. It's ugly and awful word. Yet there is an incident worth discussing IMO involving the word. Comic Bill Maher on Friday night has a Nebraska senator on his Real Time show and Bill uttered the N-word during a lighthearted give and take with the senator. The audience groaned and laughed a little and Maher said, "It's a joke." The senator blew an opportunity by not saying a word after Maher uttered the word. Not blaming the senator but he shoulda been ready for anything being on the Bill Maher show. Maher can't laugh this off. HBO today or last night issued a statement condemning Maher's uttering the word and said it would be edited out of the broadcast or bleeped out of the broadcast when it airs again. My question to you is ... How could Maher be so stupid? He said the N-word as punch line to a very bad joke about working in the fields ("I'm not a house xxxxx") And also my question is ... should HBO suspend the show or fire him?? Some HBO executive did say Maher's actions were awful and the word would be edited out of the show for future airings. My guess is he could still be fired depending on his response to the HBO statement on the matter. Kathy Griffin's 15 minute news cycle has about run out on her story as Bill Maher grabs the baton on the "aging comedians relay race" Who will be the next to grab the baton and do something utterly stupid for the third leg of the comic's relay?
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**2017 Films Thread** (Beware of spoilers)
Do you ever watch old movies on TV? I saw Butterflies are Free with Goldie Hawn and Edward Albert last night and found it fairly compelling. Then I watched the Odd Couple with Lemmon and Matheau and again was pleasantly stunned. Finally tonight I watched Paul Newman and Woodward and Anthony Perkins in a somewhat odd movie called WUSA. Were actors better in the old days? All 3 of these movies were well acted IMO. Have you seen any of these flicks? I'd give 3 of 4 stars to the first two mentioned and 2 of 4 to the third movie.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
The question is ... when Trump gets impeached and removed from office, is that an out of jail card for Kathy Griffin? I mean we know Trump is not going to last. So the moment he gets the hook from office, does Kathy get to go on tour again? You've probably seen every one of her concert dates have been canceled by the hosts.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Reddy @ Jun 2, 2017 -> 09:10 PM) I don't feel bad for her either. Either don't do it, or be willing to stand behind it if you do. Because she did NEITHER - that's the reason she "may not have a career anymore". If she'd stood by her art and not rolled over the split second someone got mad, she'd be killing it right now. But as it is, take f***ing responsibility. Whining about Trump ruining your life creates zero pity from anyone. Agreed. She had a chance to be the badass and tell everybody to f*** off, it's art. Ted Nugent never backed down did he? I still see him yapping on TV or youtube and he's still touring right? She probably was smart to have a news conference though. Fighting back is the right thing to do considering Trump is hated by so many. She probably should go on a few of the Late Night shows and resurrect her career by bashing Trump all day every day.
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June 2nd Game Thread: White Sox @ Detroit Tigers
So many games against teams in the division. Baseball made a big mistake doing that. My gawd. It's always the same games. Chisox vs Det, Minnie, Cleve, KC. ... Grows old.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
That Kathy Griffin press conference is pretty wild. At least they did call what she did "art." I always figured that was the way to go. The problem, Lisa Bloom (attorney) is your client did something very gross and nobody wants to see a fake severed head and what that severed head represents and as such, your client's career is over. Still, whoever is sending her death threats should be thrown in jail. Bottom line: CNN had a chance to save her career. But fired her from its New Years Eve gig, so she's done. All the venues are canceling her shows.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 07:08 PM) Greg, that news story is like two years old. Do you really think there are roving gangs of "white privilege monsters" accosting white people all over the country? But... you also posted today that we need to be worried about ISIS beheadings within the US of A. So... I'll just echo that you have an odd worldview. What is the white privilege thing then? A concept? The basis is to get whites to check their privilege or demand they state they are privileged. They are not setting up booths in restaurants and bars where you come up and check your privilege so what's the point of it then?
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:55 PM) Believe it or not, Mother Teresa had more than her fair share of critics...perhaps even more than Donald Trump if you count the entire world. Even some of the people who earlier in the day marched with the white privilege people got accosted in the library. I mean it should go both ways. The white privilege monsters don't even know who they are approaching in some cases. Take the time to get a clue and don't accost your own supporters. Don't accost anybody. Leave me alone, please.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:52 PM) http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/us/lebron-ja...hate/index.html America's Week of Hate As Smithsonian.com noted, in recent weeks someone hung nooses at the Port of Oakland in California, inside a University of Maryland fraternity house and outside a Crofton, Maryland middle school. That's in addition to the nooses and bananas found on American University's campus recently after students elected the first-ever black woman to head the student government. ... The 33-year-old LeBron James, who is no stranger to speaking out on racial strife, further found himself lamenting the state of race relations in the country. "No matter how much money you have, no matter how famous you are, no matter how many people admire you, being black in America is tough," he said. It's tragic that so many people are prejudiced. I don't get it. It's just sad. I can't think of one person on this board who even exhibits the slightest of racist tendencies. At least we can congratulate ourselves on being color blind. I'm glad I turned out to be somebody who does not see color. I've had best friends of all colors, worker friends of all colors. I don't want a medal, I'm just stating that I can't understand why somebody hates somebody else because of their skin color. Prejudice and racism is beyond bad but if it's not gone by now I guess it never will go away. Who would hate on LeBron James for gosh sakes? He's done a lot of good for people with his money. He's a good person. yet there are wackos who want him dead because of his skin color. Sick.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:49 PM) You have a strange world view. Trust me, I do things for others. I'm not going to be Trump like and list them or boast about them here or mention anything I may do here. I just don't appreciate gangs of people telling me to do things that won't accomplish anything like "check your privilege now!" I feel like that's very very rude of them when they don't know me.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:45 PM) Honestly, if you're doing what is good and right, who the f*** cares what others say about you? Internet critics are always going to be there no matter what you do. There's no pleasing everyone on everything. Being a good person and helping out your neighbor should be a part of your duty as a citizen of the world. If you're born in the lemon orchard, offer to show people born outside of the orchard not only how to make lemonade, but how to start their own orchards. I agree. My point is this goes two ways. Do all the things you suggest and expect nothing out of it. Do it cause it's the right thing to do. At the same time, I don't need to be Mother Theresa-like and then have somebody aggressively scream at me and tell me to check my white privilege. At least show me the respect to get to know me or leave me the f*** alone in the library or on the street. Don't scream "check your privilege" at me.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 04:03 PM) So, I'm still curious, now that we're all aware that we are privileged, what next? Be ready to check your white privilege and cite your white privilege when a white privilege mob approaches you in the library. Be ready to publicly cower and proclaim that privilege. Like you said in your post or implied, it's silly. The white privilege mob wants you to scream in agreement with them that you have privilege. That's all. And you could be the best person imaginable for all they know. You could be Mother Theresa in terms of helping people. They don't know and won't bother to find out. They'll just be furious that you have white privilege and you better be ready to check it. And if you have a shred of pride you won't state any privilege cause they don't have the right to threaten you or yell at you if you don't declare your privilege. I agree with your post. What next? My point is nothing will satisfy those who say whites have privilege because of all the past atrocities. Rather than put their energy 100 percent into being successful, they want you to check your privilege. Why?? Cause they said to do so. It accomplishes very little except to harbor resentments and fighting. So I state my privilege to them when they ask me to. What happens next? Nothing. They move on to the next person if you are lucky enough. QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 04:55 PM) You support those that don't have the same opportunities that you do - or are treated unfairly because they didn't win the "life lottery." You learn everything that you can about other ethnicities, cultures, and classes in America -read articles, talk to people, get to know them and where they come from. Don't pass it off as someone else's problem and don't jump to conclusions and pass judgement on others that don't live the same life as you do. Everything that we are is a product of our environment and opportunities. Go out of your way to use your connections and abilities to help raise someone else up that wouldn't normally have the same opportunity that you do. Put yourself in someone else's shoes and act upon that experience in a positive way. You could still do all these things (and a lot of people on this board DO do those things) and be lambasted by the white privilege gangsters if they approach you. Why? Cause they don't want to hear positive things like this. Would an angry person asking you to state your privilege care or even listen to you as you tell them you've done these positive things? Of course not. I love your post but like most things in life the only thing you'll get out of doing these things is the personal realization you are a good person (which is nice enough). But my point is you could still do all these things and be blasted if you refused to check your privilege or state it when approached by somebody who rudely tells you to do so. I like your post but like most positive things in life, the benefit it personal. You know you are a good person, a better person. But to the privilege monsters? They will STILL blast you. They're not going to listen to you rattle off these good things you've done. They'll just scream that you have privilege by gosh!