Everything posted by greg775
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Bill Maher does something very stupid
I'm like Oprah I don't even like to write N-word much less write the full word. It's ugly and awful word. Yet there is an incident worth discussing IMO involving the word. Comic Bill Maher on Friday night has a Nebraska senator on his Real Time show and Bill uttered the N-word during a lighthearted give and take with the senator. The audience groaned and laughed a little and Maher said, "It's a joke." The senator blew an opportunity by not saying a word after Maher uttered the word. Not blaming the senator but he shoulda been ready for anything being on the Bill Maher show. Maher can't laugh this off. HBO today or last night issued a statement condemning Maher's uttering the word and said it would be edited out of the broadcast or bleeped out of the broadcast when it airs again. My question to you is ... How could Maher be so stupid? He said the N-word as punch line to a very bad joke about working in the fields ("I'm not a house xxxxx") And also my question is ... should HBO suspend the show or fire him?? Some HBO executive did say Maher's actions were awful and the word would be edited out of the show for future airings. My guess is he could still be fired depending on his response to the HBO statement on the matter. Kathy Griffin's 15 minute news cycle has about run out on her story as Bill Maher grabs the baton on the "aging comedians relay race" Who will be the next to grab the baton and do something utterly stupid for the third leg of the comic's relay?
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**2017 Films Thread** (Beware of spoilers)
Do you ever watch old movies on TV? I saw Butterflies are Free with Goldie Hawn and Edward Albert last night and found it fairly compelling. Then I watched the Odd Couple with Lemmon and Matheau and again was pleasantly stunned. Finally tonight I watched Paul Newman and Woodward and Anthony Perkins in a somewhat odd movie called WUSA. Were actors better in the old days? All 3 of these movies were well acted IMO. Have you seen any of these flicks? I'd give 3 of 4 stars to the first two mentioned and 2 of 4 to the third movie.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
The question is ... when Trump gets impeached and removed from office, is that an out of jail card for Kathy Griffin? I mean we know Trump is not going to last. So the moment he gets the hook from office, does Kathy get to go on tour again? You've probably seen every one of her concert dates have been canceled by the hosts.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Reddy @ Jun 2, 2017 -> 09:10 PM) I don't feel bad for her either. Either don't do it, or be willing to stand behind it if you do. Because she did NEITHER - that's the reason she "may not have a career anymore". If she'd stood by her art and not rolled over the split second someone got mad, she'd be killing it right now. But as it is, take f***ing responsibility. Whining about Trump ruining your life creates zero pity from anyone. Agreed. She had a chance to be the badass and tell everybody to f*** off, it's art. Ted Nugent never backed down did he? I still see him yapping on TV or youtube and he's still touring right? She probably was smart to have a news conference though. Fighting back is the right thing to do considering Trump is hated by so many. She probably should go on a few of the Late Night shows and resurrect her career by bashing Trump all day every day.
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June 2nd Game Thread: White Sox @ Detroit Tigers
So many games against teams in the division. Baseball made a big mistake doing that. My gawd. It's always the same games. Chisox vs Det, Minnie, Cleve, KC. ... Grows old.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
That Kathy Griffin press conference is pretty wild. At least they did call what she did "art." I always figured that was the way to go. The problem, Lisa Bloom (attorney) is your client did something very gross and nobody wants to see a fake severed head and what that severed head represents and as such, your client's career is over. Still, whoever is sending her death threats should be thrown in jail. Bottom line: CNN had a chance to save her career. But fired her from its New Years Eve gig, so she's done. All the venues are canceling her shows.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 07:08 PM) Greg, that news story is like two years old. Do you really think there are roving gangs of "white privilege monsters" accosting white people all over the country? But... you also posted today that we need to be worried about ISIS beheadings within the US of A. So... I'll just echo that you have an odd worldview. What is the white privilege thing then? A concept? The basis is to get whites to check their privilege or demand they state they are privileged. They are not setting up booths in restaurants and bars where you come up and check your privilege so what's the point of it then?
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:55 PM) Believe it or not, Mother Teresa had more than her fair share of critics...perhaps even more than Donald Trump if you count the entire world. Even some of the people who earlier in the day marched with the white privilege people got accosted in the library. I mean it should go both ways. The white privilege monsters don't even know who they are approaching in some cases. Take the time to get a clue and don't accost your own supporters. Don't accost anybody. Leave me alone, please.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:52 PM) http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/us/lebron-ja...hate/index.html America's Week of Hate As Smithsonian.com noted, in recent weeks someone hung nooses at the Port of Oakland in California, inside a University of Maryland fraternity house and outside a Crofton, Maryland middle school. That's in addition to the nooses and bananas found on American University's campus recently after students elected the first-ever black woman to head the student government. ... The 33-year-old LeBron James, who is no stranger to speaking out on racial strife, further found himself lamenting the state of race relations in the country. "No matter how much money you have, no matter how famous you are, no matter how many people admire you, being black in America is tough," he said. It's tragic that so many people are prejudiced. I don't get it. It's just sad. I can't think of one person on this board who even exhibits the slightest of racist tendencies. At least we can congratulate ourselves on being color blind. I'm glad I turned out to be somebody who does not see color. I've had best friends of all colors, worker friends of all colors. I don't want a medal, I'm just stating that I can't understand why somebody hates somebody else because of their skin color. Prejudice and racism is beyond bad but if it's not gone by now I guess it never will go away. Who would hate on LeBron James for gosh sakes? He's done a lot of good for people with his money. He's a good person. yet there are wackos who want him dead because of his skin color. Sick.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:49 PM) You have a strange world view. Trust me, I do things for others. I'm not going to be Trump like and list them or boast about them here or mention anything I may do here. I just don't appreciate gangs of people telling me to do things that won't accomplish anything like "check your privilege now!" I feel like that's very very rude of them when they don't know me.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 06:45 PM) Honestly, if you're doing what is good and right, who the f*** cares what others say about you? Internet critics are always going to be there no matter what you do. There's no pleasing everyone on everything. Being a good person and helping out your neighbor should be a part of your duty as a citizen of the world. If you're born in the lemon orchard, offer to show people born outside of the orchard not only how to make lemonade, but how to start their own orchards. I agree. My point is this goes two ways. Do all the things you suggest and expect nothing out of it. Do it cause it's the right thing to do. At the same time, I don't need to be Mother Theresa-like and then have somebody aggressively scream at me and tell me to check my white privilege. At least show me the respect to get to know me or leave me the f*** alone in the library or on the street. Don't scream "check your privilege" at me.
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I AM WHITE/AMERICAN PRIVILEGE
QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 04:03 PM) So, I'm still curious, now that we're all aware that we are privileged, what next? Be ready to check your white privilege and cite your white privilege when a white privilege mob approaches you in the library. Be ready to publicly cower and proclaim that privilege. Like you said in your post or implied, it's silly. The white privilege mob wants you to scream in agreement with them that you have privilege. That's all. And you could be the best person imaginable for all they know. You could be Mother Theresa in terms of helping people. They don't know and won't bother to find out. They'll just be furious that you have white privilege and you better be ready to check it. And if you have a shred of pride you won't state any privilege cause they don't have the right to threaten you or yell at you if you don't declare your privilege. I agree with your post. What next? My point is nothing will satisfy those who say whites have privilege because of all the past atrocities. Rather than put their energy 100 percent into being successful, they want you to check your privilege. Why?? Cause they said to do so. It accomplishes very little except to harbor resentments and fighting. So I state my privilege to them when they ask me to. What happens next? Nothing. They move on to the next person if you are lucky enough. QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 04:55 PM) You support those that don't have the same opportunities that you do - or are treated unfairly because they didn't win the "life lottery." You learn everything that you can about other ethnicities, cultures, and classes in America -read articles, talk to people, get to know them and where they come from. Don't pass it off as someone else's problem and don't jump to conclusions and pass judgement on others that don't live the same life as you do. Everything that we are is a product of our environment and opportunities. Go out of your way to use your connections and abilities to help raise someone else up that wouldn't normally have the same opportunity that you do. Put yourself in someone else's shoes and act upon that experience in a positive way. You could still do all these things (and a lot of people on this board DO do those things) and be lambasted by the white privilege gangsters if they approach you. Why? Cause they don't want to hear positive things like this. Would an angry person asking you to state your privilege care or even listen to you as you tell them you've done these positive things? Of course not. I love your post but like most things in life the only thing you'll get out of doing these things is the personal realization you are a good person (which is nice enough). But my point is you could still do all these things and be blasted if you refused to check your privilege or state it when approached by somebody who rudely tells you to do so. I like your post but like most positive things in life, the benefit it personal. You know you are a good person, a better person. But to the privilege monsters? They will STILL blast you. They're not going to listen to you rattle off these good things you've done. They'll just scream that you have privilege by gosh!
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Reddy @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 02:13 PM) Like at all. Greg, the world in this current era is still more peaceful and safer, statistically, than its ever been. Chill. The Arianda Grande concert incident could have happened here. North Korea is getting ready to fire bombs our way. We have a president who is too aggressive, some might say crazy. You have ISIS bastards capable of doing anything including beheading you whether you believe it or not. I still don't buy the stats. You think Chicago is safe? Let's hope this summer things settle down in Chicago compared to last summer. All the murders.
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Hawk to retire at the end of 2018 season
QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 12:17 AM) ...to you. You stopped liking him whenever you did. Many of us did not, and continue to like him to this very day. Yes sir. I still like him. He and Wimpy were awesome those last few road games. He's jealous of Stoney or sick of him and those broadcasts can be s***ty. QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 12:36 AM) To most people. Half the board here, all of the national media, various ranking sites. I like Ken Harrelson, but he's not fit to be in the booth anymore. Bull. He's fit to be in the booth. He's a legend and still has it.
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Red Sox vs. White Sox
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 02:11 AM) ALL OF THIS WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT STUPID BUNT THE INNING BEFORE...WHITE SOX GO AHEAD 2-0, the entire game changes in complexion. Blow the opportunity, you ALMOST always give up runs the next inning. This is not the NL. The AL teams just have way too much firepower to play small ball like it's 2005 the first two months. Starting to think the Cubs were right on Renteria....he's like Torborg/Manuel, good managers at working with youngsters but NOT the right man to lead them to the promised land. (But at least he played a major role in getting Luis Robert and will be around until the beginning of the 2019 season or halfway through that year.) He's got to go. The bunting thing is a huge deal. He's a relic. Bunts suck. Proven time and again.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ May 31, 2017 -> 09:35 PM) Yes, both are morons, but I applaud her for having the gonads to do it. It is so incredibly sad that somehow this is less socially acceptable than the fake Obama lynchings. In fact, this is more socially acceptable than the previously mentioned things. Trump deserves people being mean spirited to him. He is a hateful, mean-spirited, selfish piece of s*** who brings disgrace to the Oval Office. The fact that Andrew Jackson is his presidential hero tells you all you need to know about him as a human being and as a president. He is president for make benefit glorious nation of Trumpistan. The gonads to do what exactly?? All she did was hold up a head and didn't explain WTF. Man you really hate Trump.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2017 -> 08:55 PM) Does anyone actually like her as a comedian? Her positives are about as high as Sean Penn. It would be quite different if this was Tom Hanks, The Rock, Clooney or Bono trolling Trump, etc. They actually have viable careers to lose, just like The Dixie Chicks and Sinead O'Connor did. This is Don Rickles or Joan Rivers territory here, yet even less classy, which is quite difficult to pull off. What's funny is this is getting 5x more coverage than the seemingly more impactful issue of global climate change. Hey, don't rip my Don Rickles. Loved him. I didn't like Rivers much. I don't find Griffin funny. Her standup is mostly about celebrities and their TV shows, etc., and her dealings with them. It's OK. I don't despise her humor but I'm not a huge fan. I'm more a Louis CK guy or Barry Crimmins. QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ May 31, 2017 -> 09:18 PM) I applaud Kathy Griffin. Good for her. Like was said earlier, the right-wing nutjobs used to have mannequins with Obama's face on it hanging from a damn tree. What's wrong right wingers? Can't take a little free speech? Hypocrites. Pointing out right-wing hypocrisy is always fun. I may not agree with what people say, but I will defend their right to say it. Trump is a horrible businessman, a worse human being and an even worse president(if that is even possible for him to be a worse president than human being) I am embarrassed as an American to have to call him "President." Trump is, in fact, a national embarrassment and one can only hope he was put into office purely with collusion from the Russians, otherwise there is no hope for America in the future if this is found to have not been the case. We are witnessing Nero playing the fiddle as Rome burns to the ground. This isn't about getting even for the morons who hung Obama's fake body from a tree. Those people are morons as well. She didn't say that's why she did it, to get even. Griffin's actions were wrong on many levels. Mostly it was grotesque and not funny. The fact she apologized so quickly shows her intent was mean spirited not artsy. She is Sooooooo stupid for not saving her career by a.) doing what you said, just say she wanted to get even for all the Obama haters hanging him in effigy; that would have worked or b.) again, proclaiming it 2017 ART. Saying it's up to the individual person to decide what it means. She blew it by immediately apologizing for what apparently was humor. It's not funny to hold a severed head that looks just like Trump when we are in real danger from ISIS bastards running around the USA ready to chop our own heads off!!!! All you need to know is her beloved NY Rockin Eve co host, Anderson Cooper, was appalled and blasted her actions on Twitter.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Iwritecode @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:46 PM) So you don't like the host but continue to listen to the show. Wow, it's exactly like sports talk radio. No way in hell I believe he truly endorses those products through personal experience like he reads. That tells me he is only out for $$$$. However I do like his takes and rants on the anti-Republicans and the other things he rants about. I think it's entertaining s***.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
I am surprised my Warhol comparison hasn't sparked more comment. In the final analysis, her only way of surviving this in terms of her career was to not apologize and to discuss the artistic side of what she did. By apologizing, etc., she was admitting in a sick way that she condoned the horrible image of the severed head of Trump. By going the 'art' route, it would have been very interesting to see how this played out. Now she's 100 percent the villain and fired from all her gigs. I mean art is art. And she could have played the art card harder.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:30 PM) Why continue to listen? Pop on a podcast or something instead. I'm driving to lunch for gosh sakes. It's not like I'm planning my day listening to Rush-bo like some of his legions. Usually I do put on Classic Vinyl on sirius. Or I'll pop between 610 radio and 810 radio sports talk then hit 980 and see if Rush is in a commercial break or not. Sometimes I get Rush for the three minutes before he hits his commercial break. If he's ranting and raving about something the anti Trumpers did, I'll pick it up during that short period of time.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Iwritecode @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:17 PM) Where did this fear come from? I haven't heard of any random beheadings happening anywhere in the country. You just described every sports talk radio show in Chicago. a.) When we had all the beheadings on video overseas and there was talk ISIS would do it to us here. b.) Sports talk radio shows here go 10-15 minutes at a time before commercials hit. If you listen to Limbaugh, the most you'll hear is maybe 3 minutes of him yapping then he urgently says he needs to go to a commercial break. And reading those ads for those quack products/services lets me know the host is a flat-out moneymaking liar. Some of these commercials are for things as ridiculous as buying land in the middle of the desert.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (knightni @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:13 PM) You see Greg, Trump lied. Of course he lies. He's not a good guy, folks.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:01 PM) You listen to Rush. Nothing should horrify you I listen to Rush sometimes when I'm in the car at lunch hour. I get a kick out of a.) how he'll talk 'maybe' 2-3 minutes and then they immediately 'have to go' to a commercial and wonder how the hell people can listen to a whole program with so many commercials. b.) i am amazed by those those commercials in which that the host reads a testimonial statement in which he endorses the quack product and pretends sometimes he uses the product. That's all you need to know about the host. That he's endorsing some company that will get the IRS off your back or some such ripoff product. Sure. Anything for a buck. Even my idol, Howard Stern, reads these bulls*** ads. If no commercial is on when I click on Rush's show and I'm in the car driving to lunch, yeah I'm a fan of his takes. BTW: TMZ reports: "Trump family sources tell us Barron was in front of the TV watching a show when the news came on and he saw the bloody, beheaded image. We're told he panicked and screamed, "Mommy, Mommy!" As it was put to us, "He's 11. He doesn't know who Kathy Griffin is and the head she was holding resembled his dad." Melania called out Kathy, saying what she did was disturbing, wrong and "makes you wonder about [her] mental health." President Trump also blasted Griffin for posing with the head, saying, Barron was having a hard time dealing with it." Hmmm ... fishy. He was watching a TV show then the news mysteriously came on with the Griffin story?? I doubt that. First of all, what TV show is going to show the bloody picture?
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President Donald Trump: The Thread
CNN says "Comey to testify publicly about Trump pushing him to end an FBI probe into an aide's Russia ties" So Trump should be impeached/fired on an "obstruction of justice" charge by Christmas. I doubt he'll want to have long hearings on impeachment, so perhaps he'll pull a Nixon and quit. We'll have one year of Trump as president, then we get the Veep taking over. So Comey winds up being a huge factor in Trump winning and THE factor in Trump being impeached/fired. Interesting. Comey arguably is one of the most important individuals in history.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:53 PM) CNN canned her from their fake New Year's Eve broadcast. Good. The network called the photos "disgusting and offensive." Having her in Times Square with millions of people would have been a very bad idea. The chances of violence would be pretty huge.