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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 31, 2017 -> 04:12 AM) One thing about this team is they don't give up That's something I've never taken too much stock in. I don't think many teams flat out quit, sports cliches be darned. I do LOVE what Melky did tonight. So cool. He showed guts. I respect you Melky.

They should eject the nut on the broadcast who is doing the Howard Dean scream.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:56 AM) We can still win this year Yes! Leave it to Elrockin to end on a high note! Elrockin I worship you, but how can you look at this roster and see anything but last place in the Central?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:17 AM) I don't think he's a starting pitcher, but also if the Sox lost two more games that year, they would have got Benintendi Cool. At least you admit Fulmer may be a bust. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:31 AM) You keep saying Pedro Alvarez and Mike Trout like they are ultimate trump cards in this argument you keep dragging out. A draft is tricky for any team, any sport. Players improve at different rates, they regress, some of them plateau. That doesn't mean you completely discount draft position and say "who f***ing cares where we pick? I might get a Mike Trout anywhere." Some players like Bonds and Harper and Griffey actually live up to the billing where they are drafted and made their teams contenders. Fulmer might be a bust he might figure it out and be a mainstay in the rotation. Nobody knows what he is yet Yeah, but if you are looking at this logically, the risk of the draft is what "should" prevent teams from tanking and fans wanting their team to lose. The obvious pick might be a huge bust. In the meantime the joy of winning can not be denied. Look at this season, what if you are a 7th grader Sox fan. You are watching the game with your dad and all excited, but dad inexplicably gets mad and says, "Dammit we need to lose this game!" "Why dad?" "Cause we need the best draft pick possible during this rebuild, son! Don't you get it??"

You will never hear me blast Melky again. For him to do what he just did was legendary. Melky baby! I now am OK with Melky signing an extension if he wishes.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2017 -> 04:10 AM) Arguing that Fulmer is a bad pick and believing meaningless wins in a non-contending season are important is just comical to me Do you agree Fulmer has been trash this season in terms of his stuff? I'm really surprised a guy as smart as you thinks it's OK to root for losses. I mean the reward from rooting for losses is a .... better draft pick. Pedro Alvarez ... Mike Trout are calling you on this one.

It's obvious Q will be a White Sox the rest of the season. Nobody's going to give up anything of note for him. The question is ... why does he reek? He had that one game where he was the old Q, but aside from that he's been Humber-like. So let's settle down and forget about trading him. It ain't gonna happen so let's hope for the best and hope he becomes Q again.

Too bad our bats have died. This would have been a nice game to outscore the Bosox.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2017 -> 04:02 AM) You know who was managing the White Sox 10 years ago, right? Ozzie was bad at the end, but I contend he's the best manager in Sox history. Yes, he beats out Al Lopez who led the Sox to the World Series in 1959.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) Just more flippant comments. Biden runs for president, despite his family's personal difficulties, and he beats Trump, we're not having this conversation. Merrick Garland is still probably blocked by the GOP for some other lame excuse, though. Then again, Rabbit investigative journalism on the Biden sons' marital relations might have turned the tide to the GOP. Biden couldn't run for gosh sakes, he'd have been lambasted by all Demos. It was Hillary's turn, it was Hillary's time, it was Hillary's right to be President and she had to be the nominee. Biden would have been seen as the creep who ruined the Demos chances of winning by splitting the party during the primaries. Bernie was seen as too clownish to be a real threat. The Democrats put up with him for a while.

QUOTE (Tony @ May 30, 2017 -> 08:58 PM) It's worked out real well the last 10 years. You know who our manager was, right?

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ May 31, 2017 -> 02:08 AM) If the Sox had role players like Yolmer, Leury, Davidson etc playing well in previous seasons the rebuild likely never would have started. If we had a manager the rebuild would not have been necessary. Robin was that bad. Second worst manager in Sox history. To Bevington of course. QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2017 -> 02:24 AM) Between Q, Rodon, Giolito (until recently), Lopez, Fulmer...it's a mystifying season for almost all of the Sox pitching prospects other than Kopech. And this game's on a 4+ hour pace. Good god, it has been slow. More like 4 1/2 hours. Fulmer looks like a miserable first-round pick. And many of you live for the draft, for shame. Rodon meanwhile could go either way. QUOTE (oldsox @ May 31, 2017 -> 02:37 AM) This loss is on Renteria. ?????? QUOTE (flavum @ May 31, 2017 -> 02:44 AM) This is Quintana's 162nd career start. The Sox are 74-87 in his starts. I've been told so many times on this board wins and losses mean NOTHING. So throw that stat out please. I'm surprised Sale sucked tonight. Thought he'd throw a one-hitter or no no with about 15 Ks. His pitches were for the most part screaming "hit me" just like Q's pitches.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2017 -> 02:16 PM) One thing I think we can take from the season so far is that the AL Central is pretty bad. We have done very well against it, but pretty badly against the rest of baseball. That's what I was saying, why I want to try to win it every year. Our division sucks.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 29, 2017 -> 09:25 PM) I know we can't be fair to greg but he said he wasn't sure if it was Mizzou or not. I can't keep track of all the bulls*** the kids at Mizzou do either. The school that did it was Dartmouth. Also happened at Michigan. http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov...-white-student/ Thank u rabbit. You are fair to Greg! I like it.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ May 29, 2017 -> 11:22 PM) I'm a White Sox fan, I want them to win no matter what. If they lose, and move for more young specs that's OK too. All told, I am enjoying this season. I love the win no matter what guys! Put me in that category. There's you, me, El Rockin, Eminor3 who else? Just.Win.Baby.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2017 -> 02:59 AM) Greg, his "bunting" has led to the 7th best runs scored/runs allowed differential in all of baseball...and a better record (percentage-wise) than the 2016 team with Sale, Eaton and Nate Jones recorded. As it stands today, we'd have the 13th pick in the 2018 draft. One of the 3-5 candidates for Manager of the Year. Hinch of the Astros would win it, hands down, if the voting were held today. Thing is ... bunting has jumped the shark. Those who bunt are not deemed good skippers.

He has no chance since he's an advocate of bunting. That means he's a relic. Can't survive if you approve of the bunt.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2017 -> 03:04 AM) The only "bad" thing right now is we currently are sitting with the 13th pick in the draft (nowhere close to Top 3-5)...but, even more concerning for potential trade deadline deals, we're now being joined by more and more teams in dumping talent on the trade market. You've got the Angels who will have to fold with Trout out 5-8 weeks, the Royals will be starting a huge firesale with Duffy down and blowing yet another game tonight against DET (starting with Moustakas, Hosmer, Cain, Herrera and Vargas), the Astros are so completely burying everyone in their division that the Angels will probably have to think about getting what they can for some of the assets on their roster...not that they have many with huge value. The Tigers have to decide if they want to max out any trade value for the likes of JD Martinez, Ian Kinsler, Avila, etc., or try to hold on and battle with the Indians for the division. The odds of them being able to compete all year long with CLE are slim, and none. Right now, we're only going to be able to deal Swarzak and Holland at higher value. Robertson, although we might have to eat some salary depending on who we trade him to. Cabrera and Frazier are "trending up" in value but still far from the best situation to deal them for prospects. Then you have MiGo and Shields, who hopefully comes back soon. Don't worry. By the time it shakes out we'll have the worst record in AL or second worst. Talent prevails and we don't have the talent that will win on the road and go no better than .450 at home. Royals won't totally clean house. I predict they'll bring back Moose,Herrera and Vargas. Hosmer and Cain will be dealt or walk on their own. Cain blows. He won't bring much. Hosmer won't bring much as a rental. They'll keep him til the end of year and try to sign him. In short, they'll bring back Moose for sure. Maybe Hosmer. Herrera and Vargas are worth nothing in trade value. As far as Sox ... Robertson figures to bring something and we'll deal him. Those veteran pitchers will bring NOTHING. Holland, gonzalez Pelphrey are not bringing anything. Nate Jones is a walking injury catching up to him with the horrific pitching form and will bring little. Frazier is worth nothing hitting below .200 always. Melky will bring nothing. In summation ... Robertson will be dealt and bring back a decent prospect and a half. Q will be dealt and bring back 2 decent prospects. Everybody else we're stuck with. GO SOX!

Great win. Crowd loved it. I was wondering about Renteria, though. Look ... obviously his philosophy is bunting is good. With that in mind, should the Sox cut their losses now and dump him?? It's ridiculous to try bunts like this. MLB players CANNOT bunt, first of all. Second of all it's proven bunting costs you runs. So if he's gonna bunt, doesn't he have to be punted out of the organization ASAP?? He's been great aside from the bunting, but this is a huge issue moving forward. Bunting has jumped the shark. Anybody who believes in the bunt deserves the punt.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 29, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) Greg what on earth are white privilege gangs? Haven't you seen them on youtube? They march up to people and demand they state their privilege. I don't know if it was MU but they parade around demanding you invoke your privilege. They did it in a library and some of the people earlier had marched with the privilege gangs to show support and they still got chastised in the library.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 29, 2017 -> 06:10 PM) What a terrible article and an absolutely pathetic click-bait title. Did you even read it Caulfield? I read it and I still despise the airlines. It's too cramped in there, it just is. I'm surprised more people don't have incidents on flights. Even my favorite SWA, the new planes are too cramped. If you've ever had a stranger in the middle seat all over you in the aisle you know what I mean. The execs don't give a s*** that you are paying 400 and 500 bucks for a flight. It should be illegal to have seats so cramped the guy next to you is touching you cause he can't fit. That's happened to me and it's gross.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 28, 2017 -> 08:19 PM) It's interesting to see how this discussion always circles back to Reddy and Caulfield being great at everything. Unfortunately I am not sure testimonials of not having to work hard to attain a Russian girl who have been able to get an MFA from some institution or being the best at everything in your high school/college has to do with anything. But if testimonials are what you're looking for as some authoritative guidances, here's my experience. I grew up with a kid my whole life. We played baseball together from five years old through Varsity ball. He lived four houses down from me. My parents are both of European descent. My mother grew up in Engelwood and Auburn Gresham to poor Irish immigrants. They were one of the only white families in the neighborhood and her father wouldn't leave after getting stuff thrown their windows or having their garage set on fire. Once their catholic church shut down, then my grandfather was finally ready to leave. My father grew up in a typical south side neighborhood of cops and firefighter families. My friends' parents were Polish and Cuban immigrants. They both came here as teenagers and meet each other young and raised a family together. My friend and I applied to all the same colleges. My parents aggregately made more money than his. When I was applying for college, my father was between jobs after the losing his job in the aftermath of the affirmative action housing crisis. His father was a year from retiring from the union and set to make 80K a year until he dies. He could afford to go to any school in the Big 10. Not because of money but because he was half Cuban. He's just as pale as I am. So I went to the school that offered me the most scholarship, the most financial aid and the cheapest living (my parents' house) and he went to the school that he liked best because his father's Cuban background offered him a very lucrative Cuban American scholarship. We both went into business and had similar majors and career aspirations. The places we both wanted to work wouldn't start hiring students until after their junior or senior years depending on if the student was a masters candidate or not. So when my sophomore year of college wrapped up and everyone went back home from the summer, I ran into him. We caught up and talked about our summer plans. I went to work at the restaurant and he went to work at one of the places where we both wanted to work going into college. I said, "That's weird, their campus recruiting team told me there were no opportunities until after my Junior Year." He said, "Get this, I was studying in the library and there was a recruiting event so I stopped by and one of the recruiters asked if I was Mexican. I said, no I am Cuban and he said that would work. So they enrolled me into a program for Blacks and Latinos to get a head start in business." I talked to him later in the summer and asked him about his experience. He said he got paid $25 dollars an hour to make signs and pass out t shirts and swag with a group of mostly black kids. He said it was a complete joke. So much so that he sought leadership and told them he wasn't learning anything and felt like a cheer leader for the company. So they found a way to get him more real work and he was recognized by the company for his initiative in actively looking for relevant work and experience. The next recruiting season I blitzed it and went to all the recruiting events and ended up at the same company as him. Every recruiting event I went to talked about diversity, transgender inclusiveness and women in leadership. Those are all good things of course. However, some representatives would brag, "All the other places I went to interview with were all white guys. It was like a frat house. This place is different and that was why I chose here." The girl literally said that she chose the company because there were less white guys and everybody applauded it. I wasn't offended as I am not a sensitive person but it was very strange to me how everything in their marketing spiel was targeted to attract non-whites, non-heterosexuals, non-traditional gender classifications and non-males. This wasn't one company or one firm. This was most if not all of them. It was weird to me that they were less concerned about marketing their business or the value of their employment opportunity - they were marketing a non-white male workplace. Anyways, I ended up at the same employer as my lifelong friend. The only difference was he had a year of experience on me when we started, he had a badge or recognition from an opportunity that people of my background were specifically excluded from and he was debt free because of where his father was born where I am still in plenty of student debt to this day. Never mind that we grew up on the same street, went to the same schools and largely had identical backgrounds. He received a discount on his education and a head start in his career on account of where his father was born. My mother, who grew up in poverty, was not able to get me any financial benefit on account of her skin. However, all of her former neighbors' growing up, are able to cash in on this race-based aid and opportunity that is fully entangled in our culture. To me, that would classify as unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, on the grounds of race, age, or sex but I have white privilege, so I am not sure I can express myself in this manner without being classified as a racist. Thank you for sharing. QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ May 28, 2017 -> 08:54 PM) I had a very similar experience to raBBit. Both of my parents are immigrants. Similarly, they were one of the last families to move out of their parish when the neighborhood changed and their church was closed. That's when they decide to move. The only privilege I had was a private Catholic education because that was something my parents valued, but we had few material things. Pretty much the only toys we had were balls - many which we found at parks. My dad worked as a union building engineer. Solid, but unspectacular income. My mom worked a few shifts as a waitress, earning very little outside of a little time away from her six kids. They had a mortgage, tuition, and no savings. We were all above average to excellent students. We all earned degrees from four year universities. None of us received financial aid. My best friend, who went to high school with me and who was my college roommate, has a background which is basically the same as mine - with the exception of having 3 kids in his family, being of Mexican descent, and he growing up in an arguably better neighborhood. His grades were lower than mine. His ACT was much lower. Yet, he went to U of I for free. In fact, he got tuition, room and board + additional money for living expenses. I had loans and work study. I understand the white privilege argument in an historical sense, but there are plenty of white individuals and communities that do not benefit simply from the color of their skin. Maybe society doesn't automatically judge them in a negative way based solely on the color of their skin as frequently happens with minorities, but large numbers of white people are just as underserved as their minority counterparts. Real "white privilege" only belongs to a select few. Thank you for sharing I enjoyed reading those perspectives. Do you agree with me on the issue I first brought up? That the white privilege gangs should NOT be humored by anybody agreeing they have white privilege when accosted by these rabble rousers? I wouldn't do it.

It's a guaranteed shutout. I bet the 2nd time we face him the Sox will wear the collared jerseys. But not the first time. I mean if he's going to shut us out and strike out 15 or more every time he faces us we might as well mock him with the collared jerseys. But not the first time he faces us. I think the fans will really get on him cause of the scissors incident. Plus our team sucks and the fans will take it out on Sale IMO.

I wonder if it'll be all happy occasion or if somebody tries to rattle him and starts an incident yelling stuff from the dugout? Or if he hits somebody early. Again, it's a monumental mismatch and he's going to want blood so to speak after the scissors game and the team's reaction to it.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 28, 2017 -> 05:43 PM) He's going to be so amped up. Think we'll see some 100mph heaters? Yeah. This is like that Little League game or Babe Ruth League game on the south side you didn't even want to hit in because the other pitcher was the guy in the league who was scary fast and unhittable.