Everything posted by greg775
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Reddy @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 02:13 PM) Like at all. Greg, the world in this current era is still more peaceful and safer, statistically, than its ever been. Chill. The Arianda Grande concert incident could have happened here. North Korea is getting ready to fire bombs our way. We have a president who is too aggressive, some might say crazy. You have ISIS bastards capable of doing anything including beheading you whether you believe it or not. I still don't buy the stats. You think Chicago is safe? Let's hope this summer things settle down in Chicago compared to last summer. All the murders.
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Hawk to retire at the end of 2018 season
QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 12:17 AM) ...to you. You stopped liking him whenever you did. Many of us did not, and continue to like him to this very day. Yes sir. I still like him. He and Wimpy were awesome those last few road games. He's jealous of Stoney or sick of him and those broadcasts can be s***ty. QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 12:36 AM) To most people. Half the board here, all of the national media, various ranking sites. I like Ken Harrelson, but he's not fit to be in the booth anymore. Bull. He's fit to be in the booth. He's a legend and still has it.
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Red Sox vs. White Sox
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 02:11 AM) ALL OF THIS WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT STUPID BUNT THE INNING BEFORE...WHITE SOX GO AHEAD 2-0, the entire game changes in complexion. Blow the opportunity, you ALMOST always give up runs the next inning. This is not the NL. The AL teams just have way too much firepower to play small ball like it's 2005 the first two months. Starting to think the Cubs were right on Renteria....he's like Torborg/Manuel, good managers at working with youngsters but NOT the right man to lead them to the promised land. (But at least he played a major role in getting Luis Robert and will be around until the beginning of the 2019 season or halfway through that year.) He's got to go. The bunting thing is a huge deal. He's a relic. Bunts suck. Proven time and again.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ May 31, 2017 -> 09:35 PM) Yes, both are morons, but I applaud her for having the gonads to do it. It is so incredibly sad that somehow this is less socially acceptable than the fake Obama lynchings. In fact, this is more socially acceptable than the previously mentioned things. Trump deserves people being mean spirited to him. He is a hateful, mean-spirited, selfish piece of s*** who brings disgrace to the Oval Office. The fact that Andrew Jackson is his presidential hero tells you all you need to know about him as a human being and as a president. He is president for make benefit glorious nation of Trumpistan. The gonads to do what exactly?? All she did was hold up a head and didn't explain WTF. Man you really hate Trump.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2017 -> 08:55 PM) Does anyone actually like her as a comedian? Her positives are about as high as Sean Penn. It would be quite different if this was Tom Hanks, The Rock, Clooney or Bono trolling Trump, etc. They actually have viable careers to lose, just like The Dixie Chicks and Sinead O'Connor did. This is Don Rickles or Joan Rivers territory here, yet even less classy, which is quite difficult to pull off. What's funny is this is getting 5x more coverage than the seemingly more impactful issue of global climate change. Hey, don't rip my Don Rickles. Loved him. I didn't like Rivers much. I don't find Griffin funny. Her standup is mostly about celebrities and their TV shows, etc., and her dealings with them. It's OK. I don't despise her humor but I'm not a huge fan. I'm more a Louis CK guy or Barry Crimmins. QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ May 31, 2017 -> 09:18 PM) I applaud Kathy Griffin. Good for her. Like was said earlier, the right-wing nutjobs used to have mannequins with Obama's face on it hanging from a damn tree. What's wrong right wingers? Can't take a little free speech? Hypocrites. Pointing out right-wing hypocrisy is always fun. I may not agree with what people say, but I will defend their right to say it. Trump is a horrible businessman, a worse human being and an even worse president(if that is even possible for him to be a worse president than human being) I am embarrassed as an American to have to call him "President." Trump is, in fact, a national embarrassment and one can only hope he was put into office purely with collusion from the Russians, otherwise there is no hope for America in the future if this is found to have not been the case. We are witnessing Nero playing the fiddle as Rome burns to the ground. This isn't about getting even for the morons who hung Obama's fake body from a tree. Those people are morons as well. She didn't say that's why she did it, to get even. Griffin's actions were wrong on many levels. Mostly it was grotesque and not funny. The fact she apologized so quickly shows her intent was mean spirited not artsy. She is Sooooooo stupid for not saving her career by a.) doing what you said, just say she wanted to get even for all the Obama haters hanging him in effigy; that would have worked or b.) again, proclaiming it 2017 ART. Saying it's up to the individual person to decide what it means. She blew it by immediately apologizing for what apparently was humor. It's not funny to hold a severed head that looks just like Trump when we are in real danger from ISIS bastards running around the USA ready to chop our own heads off!!!! All you need to know is her beloved NY Rockin Eve co host, Anderson Cooper, was appalled and blasted her actions on Twitter.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Iwritecode @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:46 PM) So you don't like the host but continue to listen to the show. Wow, it's exactly like sports talk radio. No way in hell I believe he truly endorses those products through personal experience like he reads. That tells me he is only out for $$$$. However I do like his takes and rants on the anti-Republicans and the other things he rants about. I think it's entertaining s***.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
I am surprised my Warhol comparison hasn't sparked more comment. In the final analysis, her only way of surviving this in terms of her career was to not apologize and to discuss the artistic side of what she did. By apologizing, etc., she was admitting in a sick way that she condoned the horrible image of the severed head of Trump. By going the 'art' route, it would have been very interesting to see how this played out. Now she's 100 percent the villain and fired from all her gigs. I mean art is art. And she could have played the art card harder.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:30 PM) Why continue to listen? Pop on a podcast or something instead. I'm driving to lunch for gosh sakes. It's not like I'm planning my day listening to Rush-bo like some of his legions. Usually I do put on Classic Vinyl on sirius. Or I'll pop between 610 radio and 810 radio sports talk then hit 980 and see if Rush is in a commercial break or not. Sometimes I get Rush for the three minutes before he hits his commercial break. If he's ranting and raving about something the anti Trumpers did, I'll pick it up during that short period of time.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Iwritecode @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:17 PM) Where did this fear come from? I haven't heard of any random beheadings happening anywhere in the country. You just described every sports talk radio show in Chicago. a.) When we had all the beheadings on video overseas and there was talk ISIS would do it to us here. b.) Sports talk radio shows here go 10-15 minutes at a time before commercials hit. If you listen to Limbaugh, the most you'll hear is maybe 3 minutes of him yapping then he urgently says he needs to go to a commercial break. And reading those ads for those quack products/services lets me know the host is a flat-out moneymaking liar. Some of these commercials are for things as ridiculous as buying land in the middle of the desert.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (knightni @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:13 PM) You see Greg, Trump lied. Of course he lies. He's not a good guy, folks.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2017 -> 07:01 PM) You listen to Rush. Nothing should horrify you I listen to Rush sometimes when I'm in the car at lunch hour. I get a kick out of a.) how he'll talk 'maybe' 2-3 minutes and then they immediately 'have to go' to a commercial and wonder how the hell people can listen to a whole program with so many commercials. b.) i am amazed by those those commercials in which that the host reads a testimonial statement in which he endorses the quack product and pretends sometimes he uses the product. That's all you need to know about the host. That he's endorsing some company that will get the IRS off your back or some such ripoff product. Sure. Anything for a buck. Even my idol, Howard Stern, reads these bulls*** ads. If no commercial is on when I click on Rush's show and I'm in the car driving to lunch, yeah I'm a fan of his takes. BTW: TMZ reports: "Trump family sources tell us Barron was in front of the TV watching a show when the news came on and he saw the bloody, beheaded image. We're told he panicked and screamed, "Mommy, Mommy!" As it was put to us, "He's 11. He doesn't know who Kathy Griffin is and the head she was holding resembled his dad." Melania called out Kathy, saying what she did was disturbing, wrong and "makes you wonder about [her] mental health." President Trump also blasted Griffin for posing with the head, saying, Barron was having a hard time dealing with it." Hmmm ... fishy. He was watching a TV show then the news mysteriously came on with the Griffin story?? I doubt that. First of all, what TV show is going to show the bloody picture?
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President Donald Trump: The Thread
CNN says "Comey to testify publicly about Trump pushing him to end an FBI probe into an aide's Russia ties" So Trump should be impeached/fired on an "obstruction of justice" charge by Christmas. I doubt he'll want to have long hearings on impeachment, so perhaps he'll pull a Nixon and quit. We'll have one year of Trump as president, then we get the Veep taking over. So Comey winds up being a huge factor in Trump winning and THE factor in Trump being impeached/fired. Interesting. Comey arguably is one of the most important individuals in history.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:53 PM) CNN canned her from their fake New Year's Eve broadcast. Good. The network called the photos "disgusting and offensive." Having her in Times Square with millions of people would have been a very bad idea. The chances of violence would be pretty huge.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Tony @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:46 PM) Your exact words: "OK fine but I can't believe many people on here aren't horrified by Griffin." This isn't about having a discussion. We are already doing that. You made the statement that you are surprised more people aren't "horrified" by her. So I ask again. What more do you want from people? Read some of the initial posts from people on here. The best you could get out of them was a "yeah, but...." response. Yeah I was surprised more people weren't horrified by Griffin and her actions. But I defend her right to do this. She didn't break any laws and free speech is the best. In some countries she'd be murdered by now for what she did. Here you have the right to do it and I applaud that right 100 percent. However I did expect more condemnation on here from the Trump haters because Griffin's actions were pretty horrific. UNLESS I'm missing the Warhol-excellence of her artisticic display. Maybe this will be remembered as one of the great expressions of art of all time, like Warhol's Campbell soup display. If I'm missing something excellent, shame on me. Though I was never a big fan of Kathy Griffin, I did think she was moderately funny on New Year's Rockin Eve show with Anderson Cooper.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:43 PM) So Trump tried to hint Barron was affected by it. Did they show it to him or did he find it on his own? If he found it on his own, I'm sure he would have easily found the grab em by the p**** stuff. What was his take on that? Personally, while I think the entire thing was wrong, I think Trump is using his kid for sympathy. That is also disgusting. Maybe not as much, but disgusting. Not a bad take. It's pretty obvious Trump's kid hadn't seen it yet until Donny showed him the pic. Nobody's going to talk about that at school, if school is still in session. I doubt the kid at 10 surfs all the news websites like tmz.com and Twitter. Your take is reasonable. Nobody ever said Trump wasn't disgusting himself. He is a creep no doubt. And assuredly he lied about this. Somebody should call him on it and figure out if Trump's kid did see it, how did he see it? Trump probably showed him the pic.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (Tony @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:37 PM) It's 2017 and we just went through the election. Using the word "horrified" to describe ANYTHING Kathy Griffin does is ridiculous. She's an idiot. It was a terrible PR stunt gone wrong and her career is going to pay for it, as it should. What more do you want? Well, I personally saw it on Twitter where it was posted and HAD to look at it as I use Twitter. So it was thrust upon me giving me the right (I thought) to express displeasure about it during the news cycle of the incident. What more do I want? I don't think it's unreasonable to discuss it and give an opinion on it since we're not even 24 hours removed from the initial post of it on Twitter where I had to look at it and go, OMG that's Trump's head, WTF is this? What kind of question is, 'What more do I want?" Can't we discuss things that happen, even when it involves criticizing a Trump hater?
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:28 PM) I thought you hated the PC police, Greg? I thought you were all about people speaking their mind? She definitely has the right to do what she did. I applaud her use of Free Speech. I have no problems with her doing "what" she did. Personally? I was grossed out by it. I don't think it was funny. As you may recall I wrote some stuff on here about how we have to add having our heads chopped off to the list of things we need to worry about every day walking the streets or going to the movies. At any moment somebody might come out of nowhere and chop our heads off. So PERSONALLY I didn't like it. Generally I didn't like it as it depicts murder of the president. As far as her right to do it? I applaud her for using her free speech ticket. But like Sinead O'Connor, she will pay with the end of her career. In short ... I love we live in a country where you can do something like that and not get arrested or killed in response by the president who you implied you wanted dead (I know, it's a joke) ... but I also am PERSONALLY turned off by it and feel with free speech comes repercussions and for her that means the end of her career. But I am all for her speaking her mind. I think I have the right to be personally grossed out and offended and concerned. I mean nobody can really explain the joke or the message it was supposed to convey. We haven't had Andy Warhol-like humor in a while; I guess it was Warhol-ish.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
Man this disgusting incident is bringing out the "yeah, but ...." crowd. It's pretty horrifying to hold up a decapitated fake head with fake blood dripping down in the video portion. And it's clearly Trump being depicted. Pretty gross and inappropriate and f***ing stupid all at the same time. Definitely not good comedy. Yeah I guess we could bring up all the other incidents like the hanging in effigy of President Obama and Ted Nugent and all that and get mad about them as well. But this one is current. It was despicable and yeah, I do hope her career is ruined over it. There's a chance it could be. She mainly does standup gigs. Vegas now wants nothing to do with her and the smaller venues won't touch her as well. Maybe we who hate it are snowflakes. I just don't care to joke about cutting peoples heads off when that actually is a tactic of one of our enemy's. I guess some of you want to bring up all the horrible examples of inappropriate behavior. OK fine but I can't believe many people on here aren't horrified by Griffin.
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2016-2017 NBA Thread
Golden State in four or five. Granted the regular seasons means nothing, but GS had a much better season and it's the Warriors' year. Bet the house on GS in four or five, covering the spread in the wins.
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Kathy Griffin Does Something Very Stupid
So Kathy Griffin the comic thought it was wise/funny to hold a severed bloodied head (fake of course) of Trump in a photo shoot that was all over TMZ and other outlets. The head was pretty grotesque as in the video portion of the shoot, the head is dripping fake blood, etc., pretty gross and the immediate response of anybody with a brain is it's very unappealing to the eye. Some might even conjure images of ISIS beheading people. Any way... There's been an uproar on social media. She's already issued an apology on Twitter and Facebook. Already MGM resorts in Vegas says she has no concerts with them in future; some casino canceled her upcoming appearance; CNN says it will assess her role on New Year's Rockin Eve; Anderson Cooper denounced what she did. People are calling for boycotts of anybody who has anything to do with her. All I can say is ... unwise career move for Ms. Griffin. The photo looks pretty realistic. It's not funny in any way. Makes you wonder how people with a brain make these type career decisions. Even if it went over well with the anti Trump people (which it hasn't; Chelsea Clinton called it "vile") you would think she'd know it's career suicide. How can anybody risk having her perform in their club/casino/TV show when there could be violence at said club/casino/TV show in response to her violent picture? What do u guys think? I think Griffin made a big mistake and the country is outraged. Free Speech is AWESOME but with it come consequences. And by holding up a severed fake head of Trump, she probably has pulled a Sinead O'Connor and could be done. What do u say?? p.s. This has been a weird Tuesday for greg. Melky becomes one of my all time faves by batting and getting a hit after getting hit HARD in the face with a foul ball and Chelsea Clinton is one of the first celebrities to denounce what Griffin did. I'm already a fan of Melky for life now. And I am feeling pretty positive vibes toward Chelsea at this time, taking a stand so quickly against Ms. Griffin's distasteful display.
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May 30th Game Thread: ChiSox vs. BoSox
QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 31, 2017 -> 04:12 AM) One thing about this team is they don't give up That's something I've never taken too much stock in. I don't think many teams flat out quit, sports cliches be darned. I do LOVE what Melky did tonight. So cool. He showed guts. I respect you Melky.
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May 30th Game Thread: ChiSox vs. BoSox
They should eject the nut on the broadcast who is doing the Howard Dean scream.
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May 30th Game Thread: ChiSox vs. BoSox
QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:56 AM) We can still win this year Yes! Leave it to Elrockin to end on a high note! Elrockin I worship you, but how can you look at this roster and see anything but last place in the Central?
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May 30th Game Thread: ChiSox vs. BoSox
QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:17 AM) I don't think he's a starting pitcher, but also if the Sox lost two more games that year, they would have got Benintendi Cool. At least you admit Fulmer may be a bust. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2017 -> 03:31 AM) You keep saying Pedro Alvarez and Mike Trout like they are ultimate trump cards in this argument you keep dragging out. A draft is tricky for any team, any sport. Players improve at different rates, they regress, some of them plateau. That doesn't mean you completely discount draft position and say "who f***ing cares where we pick? I might get a Mike Trout anywhere." Some players like Bonds and Harper and Griffey actually live up to the billing where they are drafted and made their teams contenders. Fulmer might be a bust he might figure it out and be a mainstay in the rotation. Nobody knows what he is yet Yeah, but if you are looking at this logically, the risk of the draft is what "should" prevent teams from tanking and fans wanting their team to lose. The obvious pick might be a huge bust. In the meantime the joy of winning can not be denied. Look at this season, what if you are a 7th grader Sox fan. You are watching the game with your dad and all excited, but dad inexplicably gets mad and says, "Dammit we need to lose this game!" "Why dad?" "Cause we need the best draft pick possible during this rebuild, son! Don't you get it??"
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May 30th Game Thread: ChiSox vs. BoSox
You will never hear me blast Melky again. For him to do what he just did was legendary. Melky baby! I now am OK with Melky signing an extension if he wishes.