LittleHurtCG

Do you have a source on this is exactly where stats lie?

Seriously? Do you have any links to a scouting report that links Madrigal to the OG Tony Gywnn? Any kid with that kind of bat profile is likely getting picked 1:1 straight out of high school and has no need for college baseball. It was never ever okay to take Madrigal with a top 5 pick.

Still pisses me off that the Sox tanked a whole season only to draft Madrigal. Who in thier right minds would ever draft a college player with a top 5 pick that can barely hit the ball 400 feet during batting practice? The guy is also one of the worst baserunners I have ever seen. Whoever scouted and signed off on the Madrigal pick hopefully is no longer employed by the White Sox.

Very well put. The Sox are right back to where they were in 2016 it appears. Mired in medioricy. Too bad the front office here appear to be made men. Who knows how this rebuild would look if JR had just done the prudent thing 6 years ago and sh%t canned Hahn and company.

Hey! We agree on something.

How can anyone trust this front office not to completely botch the retool?

You've asked me a million questions or at least one in every post lol. Hard to keep them all straight. You never answer direct questions though. Ain't no denying that. Kind of like your guy Rick Hahn. No wonder you stan for him so much.

You can never answer a question straight up. Very peculiar.

I concur. I bet he is kicking himself a bit for taking that 6 year extension for 25 Million back in 17. He is seeing all these big contracts for other SS and wants a bigger piece of the pie.

Sorry but it wasn't obvious at all. Didn't your guy Rick Hahn say that the $ will be spent? He is a liar now? I don't believe in TLR. I'm glad is gone and think the Sox will be much better for it. I was just pushing back against the make believe of some around here that Tony was the sole reason the Sox didn't win against Houston in the ALDS.

Say what now? The Sox shouldn't spend $ to improve the current team because they have awful leadership? But yet that same awful leadership is going to tear everything down and rebuild something greater?

I want the Sox to spend $ and go for it not rebuild. How is that literal mediocrity?

Giolito pitched game 2 though and didn't do well. He pitched 4.1 innings and you wanted him pulled way before that. Cease pitched 1.2 innings in game 3 at home and got absolutely destroyed. Sounds like a good way to absolutely destroy your bullpen in games 1 and 2. It was an impossible situation for the Sox players to hit a severaly injured Lance McCullers?

Thank you. I got some Blockbuster video stores and FTX tokens to sell to anyone who thinks another rebuild with Hahn and JR as owner is a good idea. No more tanking! It doesn't work for organizations like the White Sox!

That is a lot of words to basically say that the players didn't do their jobs well and execute. Houston averaged 7.75 runs per game in that series. The Sox team era was 7.94 for the series. Outside of game the game 3 explosion the offense averaged 2 runs a game. Starting Lynn in game one was curious, but who are you starting in his place?

Again, I'm specifically asking about the 2021 Playoff series against Houston. So if the Sox had Ned Yost as their manager for that series against Houston then the Sox would have won?

You are now moving the goalposts. I agree that Tony likley cratered 2022. So please tell me what manager gets the Sox past Houston in 2021?

Lmao. The players lost to Houston in 2021 not the manager. U could have put Connie Mack in that dugout and the Sox still would have gotten their behinds kicked by Houston.

Please do. Please show me how the 2021 White Sox were a better team than the 2021 Houston Astros. This should be fun.

This is a bunch of word salad nonsense. You could say the same thing about any manager and different outcomes in like 80% of all postseason series.

So TLR is the reason the Sox didn't beat Houston in 2021 and no the players? 2022 was likley all on Tony, but don't think you can say the same for 2021.

So nobody? Sounds about right.

Sounds about right. Was that Yerminator burger any good? Did anyone ever try it?

What manager in the history of baseball was getting the White Sox past Houston in 2021?

Whatever happened to good old Yermin? Also, if the Sox clubhouse fell apart beacuse of drama surrounding that dude and TLR then this group of guys was never going to win anything significant anyways.