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Yeah, seems certain at this point.

If it’s any consolation, the cubs are also getting rocked.

They're talking about their chess club lol

I wonder what Kyle Teel's Elo is

woof

I'm describing front offices. Both of "my are fanhood teams" hired have new ones. There's nothing ironic. And I was trying to be nice to you. A lot of you guys are internet bullies, plain and simple. Being a bully on a fucking sports forum is definitely something.

lol wut this reddit user was on to something four years ago

Just be nicer. It's only baseball. Baseball is fun. If baseball isn't fun, there are other hobbies. I don't think any of us are doing 'mental gymnastics', but any reasonable person would view the remark as personally insulting. I try to back my point of view up with data and argumentative evidence; I may be wrong, who can predict the future, but it isn't 'mental gymnastics'. I have literally zero stake in whether or not the GM is good at his job or not. I think the Bulls GM is bad at his job and my thinking would reflect that if we talked about basketball on this forum. I think when Getz was hired, I probably made some posts to suggest he wasn't actually qualified, I certainly thought that, but I feel like the burden of evidence is that I would've been wrong at that early stage. Historically, I like the Bulls more than I like the Sox. I only started posting on this forum because I'm fed up with the Bulls management, and if I felt pessimistic about the future of the team, the tone of my posts would be much different. There's obviously still a question about ownership, but that hasn't really been the discussion. My feelings aren't hurt, but there's probably a level of discourse that we could strive toward. Don't need to be on the attack. Take a walk to the Unity Temple, feel the aura of the Prairie School. No bad feelings when you're sitting in that park outside Pleasant Home. Take a bike ride along the Des Plaines River Trail, you can take it all the way up to Wisconsin and connect to their trail systems and explore a beautiful state -- in keeping with the theme, ride to Taliesin. Sometimes people have different perspectives on the team, there's no reason to be mean-spirited.

That's incredible. Love the insight. The Bob Gibson story is so funny, it just adds to his legend. Fun insight into "Jimmy" Leyland too. I'd be lying if I said I knew anything about Marc Hill except that he played for the '83 team -- what a cool team and now I know a little bit about the backup catcher's personality. This post makes it that much more personal. I'm sorry that we have lost him at a fairly young age. PS: I really like those "this day in White Sox history" posts, but we haven't seen one in a while...no pressure.

Sosa should've at least knocked that one ball down, right? I guess it wouldn't have made a difference. Meidroth might've made the play and the out. The thing I'm hung up on is before they even got into a bases loaded situation. Taylor had Pasquantino down 0-2 pumping the fastball then threw him a curveball in the middle of the plate. My caveman brain knew something offspeed was coming, it was so telegraphed, and it was a bad location.At least throw it way off the plate or keep going to the fastball. He finally hit the spot with a slider to Salvy and he struck out trying to check his swing, after shaking off Teel, after pumping him with the fastball to get ahead. Then he threw Yaz a great fastball before another softly hit curveball in the middle of the plate. At that point, he's in trouble, and hot India made a nice hit on a fastball that was 2MPH slower than what he was throwing to the other guys. Alexander just blew it. I think he's generally been pretty good, but not in that situation and not over the last month. He doesn't have upside and he's not a closer. Someone else in the gamethread suggested to just keep Taylor in and see if he could work through it. I agree with that, let it be a learning experience for Taylor since he's tagged with the ERs anyway. Wilson should've been the call to begin with if we were actually trying to close out a win (and he came up clutch), but it ended up not being a learning experience for the rookie and Alexander is just some guy who might not be around the MLB much longer. I've thought all season Venable is too obsessed with 'splits', left on left or whatever. But I guess any manager would call to the lefty pitcher when 3 left-handed batters at the bottom of the order are coming up. Alexander has looked like s%*# all month though, that should take precedence to 'the splits'. edit: kinda think Teel doesn't look so hot calling a game. Lee should be the backup catcher, I thought Teel could play left field. IDK about Quero, but at least he has a cannon.

Better ERA than the Dodgers or Yankees or Phillies. The ERA, before tonight, is 14 points better than league average. Dunno how that changes with ballpark factors. The peripherals suggest the ERA should be better, I think we saw that tonight with a series of softly hit balls resulting in a bunch of runs. Bad calls to the bullpen. Bad pitch calls. And a defense that is 5th worst in combined defensive fWAR with lefties pulling the ball to the worst defender on the team. I'd put this L on Venable. They pull Tayor because 3 lefties are coming up for Alexander who a 5+ ERA in August before tonight and was put into a tough, bases loaded, closing situation. Eisert hasn't pitched this series and has a sub 3 ERA this month. But threw 24 pitches on the 24th in a blowout. Gilbert threw 22 last night in a blowout. Either one of those guys was a better choice tonight based on the trends. Can't say with confidence those two guys also picked up off the waiver wire would've performed any better, but at the very least the recent trends suggest they might have. Shuster or Booser should've been the guy, but they were failed acquisitions to be sure. All in all, pretty marginal, inexpensive relief pitchers in a down season. But might've made the difference tonight if Getz acquired, I dunno, Aroldis Chapman. But he's earning $10mil and why sign a reliever to that contract when the playoffs were never in the cards? Actual good left-handed relief pitchers are rare and expensive. Or they're in arbitration. I think it's a question of why are the Sox using the sparse lefty relievers they have left for multiple innings in blowouts. Seems like the exact situation to use Wikelman or Taylor to help the rookies build confidence and get some innings without pressure. Use the lefties situationally. Don't expect Grant to just be a stud immediately, he threw 16 innings of good ball at A level before being crowned a star. Then was really good at Birmingham before making the leap to the MLB team and being expected to close and deal with tough situations. Seems pretty bad for his development. The box score goes down as 0 earned runs for Alexander, but that call blew the game and it was actually blown the last two games. Should've been thinking this situation might come up. Hopefully it's a learning experience for the rookie manager.

I think it'll be up to him (mutual option). $10mil is good value for a team. But he's pretty old, will a different team give him more? He should have 4-5 more starts, let's see what he does. Could price himself out of the option.

tough loss

he was pumping the fastball, then two curveballs for two hits right in the middle of the plate. Lost the velocity against India.

how did he foul that off

feel like they should give some of that ERA to Teel. bad pitch calls on the first two hits.

not the worst 7-9 I've ever seen

CLUTCH!!

that girl in the rally cap is me

why is Witt walking to first lol it was right down the middle

two outs that were nearly homers and hit real hard is my guess

Eisert should've been the call. just bad.

nice hit from a .500 ops guy, but damn, come on.

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