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I dunno if it's fair to say they're opposite ends of the spectrum. I think the WNBA discussion is fairly rightoid logic; so what if many of them are black and gay, you can be black and gay and subscribe to individualistic, nationalistic logic. it's so weird how the WNBA has a bunch of cool players you want to root for, and now it's just some analogy for racial politics. The women can play and the sport is entertaining. Some of these athletes make it "political" and I only think it's worth commentating on when they seem to be contradicting their own values.

I'm waiting for you to write any post in any thread that is, like, at least two clauses. Even the guys I think are dicks are at least smart and know how to write.

I would only say (before I stop commenting on this topic forever on this forum and probably the internet), both Jews and Chrstians throughout history have updated on "Old Testament God's" vision of the world. "Old Testament God" updated on a lot of things their neighbors were doing, ie institutionalized pedophilia and executing an entire family for one person's crime. Old Testament God said "four generations should be punished for a crime" (Exodus 20:5); later on in the book, Old Testament God says, "only the one man should be punished" (Ezekiel 18:20). God updated himself in his own book. Only point I make about the "anti-pride" stuff is that it practically has nothing to do with Christianity. I make the point about "arsenokoitai" because it translates, basically, to "man, to bed" and it probably means gay sex but it also could very easily refer to pederasty or prostitution or penetrative sex that doesn't result in a child; and it's a whole lot more vague than divorce. You don't see these ball players up in arms about people getting divorced, do you, whereas the scripture is much more clear on that matter. There's a whole lot of text devoted to how you shouldn't get divorced. Matt 18 comes to mind, but there's one specific line where Jesus is very forceful about it, and I was thinking, like, 'whoa, Jesus, chill out'. The stuff about "being gay" is quite vague and was probably not all that important to the people at the time. Baseball might be "social conservative" compared to other sports, and so am I, but that idea of 'social conservatism' has a very toxic legacy within the sport.

well, he shouldn't have brought the rest of us into it with his misquotation of scripture. He doesn't like gay people for whatever reason. Social expectations. Scripture has very little to do with it. The potential meaning of "ἀρσενοκοῖται" is pretty interesting, but what does Clayton Kershaw know about it except what media told him?

google it, it's funny

That's the right point, but we all listen to these guys and take them seriously. Unfortunately, they're role models. And if it's not the ball player, it's the singer or rapper or whatever. Worth criticizing all of them. I think the Kershaw one is easy to criticize because he's a Christian and doesn't seem to understand our faith very well.

Al Franken did a good bit on it! (supply side Jesus). I think the Reformation was a good idea but Protestants definitely ran wild with it. They translated that whole bit into English, but nobody read it. Anyway, the man is getting touched up.

seems as though he's the only one putting other posters down. I would certainly be curious about his knowledge of the Bible because I think I took the "Christian perspective". It's also just a baseball game, but that guy Kershaw fundamentally misinterpreted scripture in order to be hateful to people. He should be more critical of divorce, the New Testament and Jesus specifically is much more clear about that. These Christians should try to act more like Jesus, frankly.

What's identity politics? It has to do with a fundamental misunderstanding of scripture. Why is he citing the covenant God made specifically with Jews? I thought he was a Christian? He's following the rest of Jewish law, right? It's an intellectual argument, kitekrazy. I dunno if you know about such a thing.

he's a hall of famer, but he's done and he's a douche. sox are kicking him out before the 5th inning tonight.

these dodgers fans are so annoying. chill out, you're facing the white sox.

I just remembered there's a baseball game going on. Sox are definitely gonna touch up Mr. "I completely misunderstood the point of Genesis, but put the quote on my cap anyway". At least I hope they do. What a tool. Yooo as I'm writing this, 2 run home run!!

I tend to agree but you also may wanna give your rookie catchers a breather too. I'd be interested in rolling with three catchers (bring up Lee), getting more ABs for Teel/Quero in general at DH (fewer games for both behind the plate), and trying out Teel at other positions, namely first base. I thought he played some outfield too. Lee seems like a "perfect" back up catcher. Good defense, good game-calling, pretty bad bat. Meanwhile Teel does not look all that good behind the plate. I think they should at least play Lee to see if he has trade value, he's a solid all-around catcher and seemed to be just about the only 'focused' player last season. I'm not sure what he's doing in the minors besides being a better version of Chuckie Robinson....or Adam Hackenburg, I was sure that guy was a stud.

but why is the question "why didn't we get a superstar back for a some objectively mediocre players?" Vargas is seemingly better than any of those guys and is also under contract for a while. I dunno why you don't think he's a promising player. the current pace is still like 3 WAR, is that not, at least, "average"?

Vargas's WAR this season: 1.7. Those other guys combined: 0.7. what r u scratching your head about, Fedde has a 5 ERA and is expiring, Kopech doesn't play and is expiring, and Pham is just some guy

Don't think we'll get to see Shohei pitch this series. Too bad.

still had a better Sox tenure than Joe Kelly.

I think he's a good speaker. So was Hitler (lol sorry). I dunno about "nearly as bad" because I don't think he's terrible, and your statement seems to imply you think he's still bad, just not so, so bad. maybe we're on the same page, ewok pelts. Unfortunately I think Schriff doesn't know s%*# about baseball and has barely tried to learn about the sport and has nothing interesting to say about it. You can sort of follow a trend in my posts where I started off very pleased with him, excited by the hire, I like his goofy calls ("la pantera" is very funny), etc.; then his charisma wore off and you have to listen to the guy talk about baseball 100+ times a year (if you dare subject yourself to that much Sox "baseball") and he has no real insight into the sport beyond asking his booth partner, "what do you think about what just happened on the field? and does it have something to do with vargas's swing change?". As stated, I think he could be a really good announcer (to the extent that there is a single good one. we might just prefer silence), but he isn't at the moment. Maybe he will become one. 60 grade prospect? I think media was really unfair to him his first year for the wrong reasons, though he is a gaffe machine. He should've known how to pronounce "Veeck". Didn't care for Benetti either by the way, the guy thinks he's a stand up comedian and is constantly trying to show people up for not understanding references to Ovid's poetry or xWOBAcon or whatever else. Schriff just shows people up for not knowing Spanish when he doesn't know it either.

I love that Verlander was getting hit hard but gave up 1 run on a sac fly, and 2 nobodies come in and give up 4 runs. This was the inning to watch apparently lol inevitably.....I think my stream is behind, I thought you were speculating.

I step way for like, a minute, and suddenly this game is blown wide open. The Sox definitely play better when I'm not watching.

Which sentence?

I think it would be shortsighted. What, they don't wanna pay his contract next year? They tendered Vaughn whose ceiling is only marginally better than Robert's floor. For less money, sure, but who else are they paying next season? You can't carry a $20mil contract in the hopes that he performs like the $30mil player (or whatever) he has shown he can be? He isn't a "salary dump" like Benintendi is (Benny might actually be tradable next year though if he can keep up his 'ok' play). It isn't a "cut your losses" situation IMO, I just think we're not going to get anything for him at the moment, we might get something back in the offseason if he can return to form, and if he ends up somewhere in between, he's still a good player and a valuable contributor at a defense-first position for the remainder of his contract. If he ends up as a .650 OPS player and retains his defense and base stealing, that's still a good player, just maybe not the 5-tool superstar we might've hoped Robert would be. It would be a shame to trade him for a lotto ticket and he accumulates 30 WAR over his next contract for a different team. Feel like they should've traded him a long time ago and now we're just stuck with him. He's still an elite defensive center fielder which is a rare thing to find; if he can even hit like Michael A, that's probably good for 3 WAR. Who are we going to replace him with? Brooks can't play center field. As far as I can tell, there isn't a single one in the system. Maybe one of these shortstops can play the position. If they move on from Robert, I'd hope they get a lefty bat for CF though. I was thinking about Cristian Pache the other day...I thought that guy was gonna be so good. If we're looking at Syndegaard, I'd look at him too lol.

it was raining at the ballpark? I've been out all morning hoping for a cloud or two...it's oppressively hot. feels great though, skipped over spring and went straight from 30 to 100.

The story that keeps on giving. As stated once or twice before, I was seated a few sections away in left field because I thought LuBob was gonna hit a homer that night and I was gonna impress my date by catching it and giving it to a child. Instead, Cease gave up like 7 runs in 4 innings and future Sox legend Ryan Noda hit a bomb. Anyway, I dunno what the team or police should've done differently. Announce that there's a shooting and the game is canceled? Seems like a good way to get more people hurt as they make a mad dash to the exit to avoid being the next victim of a mass shooting. The only commotion I noticed was an "enhanced security presence" and I just assumed some drunken fans got into a fight with each other which seems to happen at every other game I go to. Hope there's some resolution one way or another. The "fat teacher" theory is objectively funny and very American (overweight, armed, paranoid), don't necessarily love the fear-mongering theory of "it was teenagers who shot a magic bullet that defied gravity, went through walls, took a couple turns, and was perhaps guided by a remote control". If angsty teenagers had access to this technology, society would've collapsed by now.

G. Taylor rocks. Love they kept him out there for both innings.