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QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 07:43 PM) Which again shows how close we are to having the same beliefs as ISIS and the rest. nah, not really, this is a brutal reaction, a form of revenge. btw. what i mention about the pig and such, that came from the muslims in the 1400-1700 which they will burn them after all the pig thing is done. these bands later became a name that is now known by a name as Assassins.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 08:36 PM) Like I keep saying...as long as that's your attitude, we may as well just get used to videos of people being beheadded and burned alive because it won't change. in all seriousness, that region has been a hotbed of religious fanatics, dating all the way back to biblical times. if they haven't learn anything by now, does anyone expect them to learn anything in the future. by learning, i am meaning tolerance.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 07:17 PM) It's like signing a 16 year old Dominican player, though the age restrictions will be a little different (as he'd probably be eligible for the Rule 5 draft after 3 years instead of 4, but that's not going to matter). It's any other ordinary minor league player. The penalty itself will be a virtual 100% penalty on whatever the signing bonus is. The signing bonus itself can be distributed over 3 years, but the overage tax has to be paid within 30 days. I'm not sure what exact amount the Sox have spent from their pool this year, but I'm sure it's close to the max. Thus, if he was given a signing bonus of $40 million, the Sox would owe Yoan Moncada $40 million over the next 3 years (at the very most) and they'd owe the Commissioner's Office a check for $40 million by March 10th. Once he reaches the majors, it's like any other minor leaguer - the first 3 years of service time are rookie eligible contracts (unless the player qualifies as a Super 2 player, which is a certain percentage of games played and I don't have the time to look at what that is exactly), and then he becomes arbitration eligible. Teams will be looking at the $80 million as total player cost, and if he's really as good as they say he is, he probably would make cost somewhere around $120 million until he hits free agency (using $500k, $500k, $500k, $8 mill, $13.5 million, $18 million as his six annual salaries...those could be incredibly wrong depending upon inflation and CBA changes, but we'll work with it for now). If we are basing his cost upon $7 mill/WAR, he'd have to average 2.9 WAR per season over those first 6 years to justify the cost. That doesn't seem like a lot. Normally, the reason teams build around young players is because they can provide insane surplus value - a $500k rookie putting up a 1.5 WAR, which is a below average player, is providing somewhere around $10 million in surplus value. I don't think that has to always be the case, and really, if a team can afford $40 million (or whatever his bonus ends up being), it'd be absolutely worthwhile. I don't see that being even remotely likely for the Sox. i don't know, but if i added the math right, lets say for Yoan, it will be 6 yrs, 120 w/fine. that is 20 per. i would expect, for my 20 per, for a 20-30 hr, 120 rbi, and avg of 290 to start right away. lets also say, he will not start in the majors, nah. too much, even if he is as talented as they say. btw thanks for the info.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) I think it depends on the severity of the crime. If you raped, tortured and murdered little kids, were caught red handed doing so, there is no torture harsh enough for that person to endure as far as I'm concerned. I don't care how inhumane it is, either. I hope they have to go through 500 botched lethal injections before they die. oh i don't know, i like the idea of a slow drip, lethal injection with a little acid mix, not enuf to kill, but enuf to hurt. and while that is being applied, start breaking every digit on the hand and feet. ~~~ edit, and since we are talking about ISIS, how bout a little blood infusion with some pig's blood held down with pigs leather. ~~~ edit 2, and since he is strapped to the table, how bout getting some boars testicles and shove it up their arse and sew the arse cheek shut. like this they are really getting screwed, figuratively and literally. good bye to seeing alah.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) I don't think the Sox are going to avoid HS position players just because of the mixed results with Hawkins and Anderson, That's not a smart way to go about drafting players. That's like saying, just because Adam Dunn didn't work out, then the Soz shouldn't sign any LH power hitters. If any team is serious about building a contender then they have to draft the best player available no matter what. the sox went many, many yrs in avoiding a HS'er in the first round. they had great teams in the 90's and a WS in 2005.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) Jesus he's a taken a big leap from last year. He's a pretty slight lefty that most scouts assume is destined for the pen. Not sure I would want to use an early pick on that profile alone but I am sure some team thinks they can keep him a starter. But yeah he used to play for a neighboring town and he was a much smaller kid when we were younger. He saw a growth spurt in high school and all of a sudden he was a top player in the area. Jay http://www.illinoisbaseballreport.com/2014...prospects-list/ http://patch.com/illinois/lemont/lemont-na...l-training-camp http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/pro...asp?P=tyler-jay

depending on who is selected in the top 7 and or who will come on strong, a pitcher of extremely good quality may be there. there is 2.5 pitchers who i would select. all college pitchers. now there are 2 college positional players who might be available that i really like. with the 50-50 success the sox had with anderson and hawkins, i really doubt they will go that rt this yr or for the next several yrs. getting a player who may challenge for a position in 2016 season would be extremely enticing. but that is my opinion.

interesting choice, if true. he made a name for himself in whiplash. i saw the oscar interview with the cast of whiplash on youtube this morning. he look way different, ever since he lost weight.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 06:54 PM) Not really. If he was an above average player, it would be worth it, imo. If he was a perennial all star, more than worth it. To say he has to be Mike Trout is kind of crazy. If he was Mike Trout, you are talking about a total steal. what is the total cost, including penalty and this is good for how many yrs???

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 07:04 PM) name='southsider2k5' date='Feb 10, 2015 -> 08:01 AM' post='3114441'] At the cost we are talking about here ($80 million + no real international signings for two years) to me it isn't worth it. Well, the two years thing may be irrelevant as they will probably move towards an international draft soon. that is what i said a month or so back. however as they kept on talking about it, someone wrote that the baseball bosses has mention that they will find a way to implement an intendment, which if any team has gone over the allotted salary cap for signing int't FA, they will still be penalize in the new int'l cba.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 07:44 AM) Im just focusing on the first round pick, the health/state of the franchise and what their strategy might be. oh man, i can't wait. i usually, by default go about 3 rd. but i try to pick players that may fit the sox needs. but i am usually bored so i just read. oh btw is it done yet

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 08:24 AM) Well the Sox won't be offering QO's until next November, and this draft will have already passed. They didn't offer any this past November, so we get no comp picks. The signing of Robertson and Melky cost us our 2nd and 3rd RD picks, so our pool is much smaller. And because our pool is smaller, we have less opportunities to go under-slot with players to save money for guys that may be hard signs. This may force us to take a college guy with our 1st RD pick to save money for our other rounds to be able to take some HS talent. As much as I want us to get Daz Cameron, I think our lack of draft picks may prohibit us from doing so. The good news is that this draft is almost all college talent, so that should help us not have to reach to far or skip over better HS talent. thanks for being nice. i was totally off by a yr..... what an idiot i am. many thanks for not flaming me.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 06:41 AM) I dare you to sign Moncada, Hahn. Double dare! like that would help. however very creative thinking.

wouldn't that money also goes up, if the sox get an additional player who may get a QO???

man, this is going to be a rough prediction, sox picking #8 and then when is there next pick??? assuming if Jeff S doesn't sign, they will get an additional 1 rounder outside the top 10+.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 06:22 PM) BP is the hipster list for prospect lovers. Having Almora over Rodon is just laughable. If the Sox and Cubs were talking a Rodon-Almora swap who do you think would be the aggressor? why didn't these so call pro's just email future sox mods for the skinny and just phone it in. i am serious. this is Bull Crap of a list.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 03:16 PM) While I appreciate the sentiment, there are certainly players who pop up that no one is expecting. It happens. Marin is a guy that has been on my "radar" for some time, but he never pushed himself up enough for me to look all that deeply. The new reports do make him bump up a bit on my mental list. Then again, I also have a much looser definition of "prospect" than most. To me, pretty much anyone in the system that is A) getting starting games/innings, and B) is not a ringer who is multiple years too old for level, qualifies as a prospect. Basically, anyone with a non-zero chance of making the majors. well here is an example to my comment, you had Marin on your radar, which proves my assessment. i am right when i say, yous guys are on top of this, and are a fan related forum. these so call pro's don't have it. but thanks for your thanks. peace

Jupiter Ascending has any seen this movie, thoughts????

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 05:28 AM) I did some write ups on players in the upcoming draft in Reddit, just search for all the Midwest reports and you'll find them. I am also writing a report on the White Sox draft. Check them out. excellent, another scouting rpt...... i love them. can't wait. keep up the good work. peace

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 05:02 AM) For those high on Bickford...I've heard not so nice things about his makeup and how he handled himself during his year at Fullerton. Stuff is obviously very plus though. interesting, now i know why he went from a potential #4 and plummeting downward. i was wondering what was causing his spiral. i am trying to remember if there was a pitcher coming out that had a back makeup?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 02:48 PM) I know he made some delivery and grip changes when he was indy ball. And he certainly did perform better on returning to the Sox system. But the mid-90's FB is news to me as well. put it this way, if he was on anyone's radar, future sox people would have found him earlier. but either way, i like a new hidden prospect has emerge.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) I'd imagine I'll revisit Hawkins in April or May, as this is sort of becoming an annual thing. I did a detailed write-up of him in April 2013 amid his enourmous struggles, then did an update in 2014. In both cases I made heavy use of video, so I need to see when I can find some video (or see him in person) in early 2015 in order to feel like I can make a meaningful update. yeah, i know what you mean. what got me was callis rpt. maybe it is me and my wanting to give a last chance for people and in this case sox prospects. i would love tor someone to say, hey read between the lines, this is the reason he will not work out.... but all are saying are opinions. i have to keep reminding people opinions varies. thank again for all....... this is a labor of everything being white sox.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) niceeeeee...

QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 12:59 PM) Barring injury, this kid might hit better than Frank, IMO. He won't necessarily get the same career numbers, because he got a later start in the bigs. But we will be looking at several MVP type seasons. i like to drink sox kool aid with the best of them, i sometimes am guilty of spiking my drink, but you pour a whole bottle of your favorite in with the sox kool aid to think that.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 01:47 PM) SSS posted the first half (1-5) of their Sox top 10. Not much in there different from what we said, but... look at what Larry says about Montas' knee issues. Does add some interesting color. very good write up on all of them. i like it. an fyi, i agree with the ranking of Montas, in being #3. i love the faith in Adams. question, with all the recap and rethinking on Hawkins, are yous guys going to reanalysis your scouting rpt on him. i mean he is still only 21 and hitting AA, i still like to see how he does this yr.