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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 09:21 PM) If Jose Quintana threw 95 and had exactly the same stats he has had, he would be considered ace like. If Samardzija is what everyone hopes, and Rodon is what many expect him to be, that is almost as stacked as it gets. sale, Q, jeff s, are this teams ace's. plain and simple. rodon is an unproven player. this team went with an unproven pitchers and got burned. they have a great team now, they can not afford to do that again. no matter what we, the fans want or tries to explain, the FO is pretty much set in what they have.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) Again I ask you, go find the playing time totals for the guys I named - Gonzalez, Tulowitzki, Harden, McCarthy. If you can honestly tell me afterwards that Sale belongs in their category, I will be very confused. i am not going to look up anthing except the fact, he was hurt 2 out of 3 yrs. that is all that is needed, his health record. if you can not see this, then you are really delusional and i will stop this right here.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 08:07 PM) I don't know much about Bumgarner's history, but I do know Sale's. I don't think there are many pitchers physicsly capable of doing what he did durimg the 2014 postseason. The way Sale has gone, and the fact that people are up in arms when he throws 115 pitches in a game, I don't think, especially if you want to baby through the regualr season, he would be able to do something he has never done. It would be like putting Derrick Rose on a 25 minute limit for the entire season, and once the playoffs start, lifting it and expecting him to be fine for 45 minutes a night. I know in sports, copying others routes to winning is pretty common, but this particular one is pretty unique. To expect or rely on any pitcher coming close to duplicating Bumgarner's 2014 postseason isn't a recipe for success. the innings, the work load, having 2 solid starters, having sale as your ace, is a nice recipe for success, but i would rather have just 1 more certified ace to help, in case. none of these pitchers threw extra innings b/c a playoff run.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 08:02 PM) What?!? Go look up how many games those guys routinely miss every year and tell me I've defined Chris Sale. Let me repeat - one career DL trip. and he was hurt for 2 season and yeah 1 trip to the dl.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) This would seem reasonable to me late in the season as a way to work Rodon in...except that down the stretch is the time when you might really be wanting to ride your front of the rotation guys in order to make the playoffs. don't get me wrong, you have an excellent point. but the point is, during the season the team really needs to protect chris sale.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 05:58 PM) 2012 was the only season where they would have thought of using him on 3 days rest, but he was already showing signs of wearing down anyway (ERA 5.03 in August) and they were skipping a start of his a month that year, wisely, because he'd already had the arm soreness early in the year & they were trying to make sure they didn't hurt him. good point i think i am a minority in this thinking, but this is a reason why i would like to see a 6 man rotation this season.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) No. A guy who would surprise you if he made it through a full season. Some guys get the label unfairly because they have just have bad luck with unrelated ailments every year after year (a sprained ankle here, a line drive off the face there). Others you worry more about because their hamstring acts up every season. Troy Tulowitzki, Carlos Gonzalez, Brandon McCarthy, Rich Harden years ago. Sale has one DL trip in his career and doesn't belong in a category with these guys. i like chris sale and by this 2 nd para, you pretty much define chris sale, whether you want to admit it or not. this up coming season, there are question marks on health, Garcia-of, Jose A-1b, chirs sale-sp. the team has a backup in 2 of those positions except for sp.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 05:28 PM) Yet you suggest if the White Sox make the postseason, they push him like Madison Bumgarner. i know what Balta wrote, who is the author of his comment, but i see his comment more of a comparison to Bumgarner than anything else. however, your ace, is going to carry you when the team makes the playoff. face it, the ace of the team is the bread and butter of the whole rotation. the thing is, this is a perfect time to make that splash, to go for the ring so to speak. this team has the talent, albeit no backup pitcher to help the rotation, and i am talking about a certified pitcher not an unproven one.

QUOTE (beautox @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) Minor League Madhouse has us taking Mantuella at 8 link which is not a bad pick. any updates on his arm??? didn't he missed a start b/c of something.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 20, 2015 -> 05:14 AM) It's insane how overrated the Cubs prospects are. Edwards in the top 40 and McKinney almost 10 spots higher than Anderson is just comical. It's still surprising to me that Montas isn't considered a top 100 guy. no offense intended. but is it us that is over rating the sox prospects??? i sometimes like to get a realty check. my reasoning for asking is Montas and Adams should have been easily in the top 80's....

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 03:25 AM) Trading Sharp would be cool. I've only been asking for that for about 2 years now. i would rather bury Bickell in the minors.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 20, 2015 -> 11:45 PM) Regarding Rodon and service time, a full year is considered 172 days. Given that a major league season is 180+ days, you simply need to wait two weeks or so before calling up the player to get that extra year of control. considering the sox won't expand the roster for pitchers, some time a month later, it may work perfectly. unless the sox brass has an agreement with his agent.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 21, 2015 -> 11:04 PM) The Tigers had somebody plant them there. This is how the hijinks start in kids' sports movies. that is funny.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 12:08 PM) Compared to a lot of guys. Compared to the notion that he's injury prone. 25 guys have thrown more innings than Chris Sale since he became a starter. He's qualified for the ERA title each of the three years. a nice simple question with a follow up. do you think chris sale is injury prone??? how would you injury prone???

QUOTE (shysocks @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 10:00 AM) He missed one start in 2012, had a healthy 2013 and missed a month last year. That's not such a bad track record. I'm always worried about health, especially when the team is thin, but to me Sale is no more likely to get hurt than any other pitcher. compared to what??? the sox needs to trade for a sp even if its a 1 yr contract, pretty much like jeff s. this season is ripe for a major run for a world series. this team needs backups, known commodities.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 22, 2015 -> 12:35 AM) Dillon Tate of UCSB completely blowing up so far this year. Seeing stuff on twitter about him being a top 5 pick. and if true, then someone in the top 5 will fall, leaving some possible better players for the #8 pick.

what i see, in a season or 2, more college games on tv.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 21, 2015 -> 12:52 AM) If Rodon's halfway as good as most are projecting, then we have four for the playoffs. That's all you need. Look at what the Giants survived with after Bumgarner...Peavy, Hudson and Vogelsong. You can't seriously think that Quintana, Shark and Rodon aren't better than those three? With the Royals, you had Shields, Ventura (who really was their ace in the playoffs), Vargas and Guthrie. Same comment as above. Now they have Ventura, Volquez, Vargas, Guthrie and Duffy/Medlen/Finnegan/Hochevar. That rotation has more overall depth but the only "sure thing" is Ventura, and his arm was tender at times last year (same with Duffy) and they'll both have to deal with innings ceilings in all likelihood to protect their arms. all of what is written is true and i will continue to spout about this team, regardless of the advance stats break down, is a playoff team. how many wins i will never guess, i guess i am not too good to predict.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Feb 21, 2015 -> 03:39 AM) Robin is saying this because Hahn has told him he expects to make the playoffs and Hahn because JR expects to make the playoffs. ahh the trickle down affect.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 20, 2015 -> 09:51 PM) I love the Sox, but there's no way Robin should be expecting playoffs with this club. Sox have to come out and play ball and reverse the mojo from the last few horrific seasons. and by most opinions, i would agree with you. however, the sox have steadily assembled a great group of players, now it is time to wait and see them in actions.

it is extremely hard to find a good quality coach who can coach. if a tug of war develops between Thibs and Gar, i will pick Thibs. remember, b/c this point i am going to present has been fading from many a fans minds, all the coaches the Chi sports teams has gone thru. the search for a coach, the right coach can be long and unfruitful, and may help miss the important part, the playoff.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 20, 2015 -> 09:34 PM) Vegas says we're a .500 team and u better believe Vegas is right most all the time. i really don't care what vegas says, and i will stand by my comments till the end of the season. the sox is a playoff team and has a good enuf chance to make a run for it. however in the playoff, without another sp addition, well i let you fill in the rest. remember, i stand by predictions and am going to enjoy drinking my sox kool-aid.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 20, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) Vlad Jr would be a great get. i am 100% on board with you, i remember a list of 2015 int'l fa's list who could be signed on and after july 2. does anyone have a copy saved?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 19, 2015 -> 02:22 AM) In the prospect handbook, it mentions that Matt Davidson struggled with the fact that he didn't win a major league job and then also had family issues that further helped complicate his season. Were these family issues documented? Did anyone else know about them? i am no expert and i definitely do not have any inside info, but it was documented of his not making the majors. but this is a first on his family issues. i wonder if this is a spin doctoring by the FO.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 06:12 PM) Plus, it'll be interesting to see how Walker Buelhler does this season. It's a very good chance one of these guys will fall to the Sox at 8. to me, if he is there, i would snatch him up, he is among the top 3 pitchers avail in my book.