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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 04:42 PM) Because we didn't have anyone better, which is the point. We don't have any decent pitching depth. Hector Noesi and John Danks were terrible pitchers last year. and in some way the sox still don't except for the bull pen. however starting a new season, and hoping that the main core of pitchers can really pull it out, it is kind of exciting.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 04:23 PM) Not really. Nobody's going to give you much at all for a Putnam, Petricka, Webb or Guerra at the start of the season...they're way too unproven. What will be more compelling to watch is whether Rodon, Montas or Danish end up in the pen (especially the last two names) in August and September. Sanburn's another arm to monitor, if he's 100% healthy. As it is, there aren't a lot of veteran arms down there. We're waiting on Crain and Nathan Jones...then you have guys like Cleto and Surkamp with pretty minimal value. If you were another team, why would you want Chris Beck or Brad Penny, for example? You can find them on the waiver wire for practically nothing. all true, the sox FO will know more of how best to use these pitchers and esp with Montas, and Danish. it is still a nice group of pitchers.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 04:33 PM) After looking at Noesi's White Sox numbers, they weren't as good as I thought they were. I never said that Coop "fixed" him though. I was relaying a cool story about how and why he was acquired. Next time I won't. i hope you don't mean that, that was a kool story. that what makes forums like this enjoyable.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) One difference this year is the games are expected to be won. Sometimes that inspires guys, sometimes that causes performance to drop significantly. exactly, this is "the road to the playoff" and i do not care. mostly all players will put their best foot forward on a season like this. there should really be a huge excitement this season. book it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) LDF has been a bit like the Greg "Little Bulldog" Hibbard of SoxTalk these days, haha. oh man, i am really trying to be nice today, i am walking on egg shells here.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 01:54 PM) Where is Brady Aiken these days? IMG Academy in Florida? Juco? Independent League? It's hard to find any information about his whereabouts. if i remember correctly, he may be going the independent rt, so he can be eligible for the draft this yr.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 04:17 PM) He is taking full season stats to make the comp look worse. but last yr was a wretched yr to gage on the pitchers. if anything, it should be used as a spring board for looking for improvement with ref to the starting pitchers.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 04:17 PM) Spring training is meaningless for Danks at this point. Looking at his stats through May 15 will be the most important indicator. I'm sure if he's throwing harder we'll hear Hawk gushing about how he's going to win 15+ games and be an anchor to the back of the rotation, results in AZ doesn't mean much because of the desert air and faster sun-baked infields. Still, it should have less of an effect on his change and fastball than curves and sliders. but spring training will show if he has indeed improve or has made any changes.

i like the idea of a nice group of pitchers in the pen. this may be the best group the sox have had in a long time. as of right now, they may even have more in the wings, via thru the off season trades. in addition the top prospects, those who were also drafted. now this would be an embarrassment of riches. now here is where Hahn comes in, i know the sox will have more of an idea towards the end of spring training, but maybe Hahn can trade some of them. use them to continue to build the system. positional players, a catcher, would be the main focus of those trades. any ideas??

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) It was mostly location, the fact that there wasn't as much of a differentiation in pitch speeds compared to previous years, leaving a lot of pitches up in the strike zone (which is obviously mechanics as well)...getting behind in counts and not having the stuff to miss bats unless his change-up was on that day. Unless he's throwing 91-93 like in the past, he has to feature much better command and get ahead more frequently. It's simple, Mark Buehrle's tried and true formula, but of course it's not in reality. Working at a faster pace might help, too, as he really slows down when he gets out of rhythm and it exacerbates his struggles. Limiting pitch counts (which is affected by not getting as many swings and misses) should help, but at this point it is what it is. i do have faith in Danks and i believe he may find a way to get the job done. he is a throw back to the old school pitchers, but i guess, we as fans will see how spring trng pans out.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 03:41 AM) College arm or bat. I like Fulmer, Mattuella, Bickford. Only bat worth considering is Happ. By the way, Bickford's stats in CC are 2-1, 1.77 ERA, 20IP, 11H, 4ER, 6BB, 40Ks I don't think Aiken falls to 8. i really like kirby.... but what is interesting is Bickford is dropping. man he really screwed the pooch in school this yr. what is the story on him??? that is 1 pick the may be a over slot signing. i still am waiting for some more news of Mattuella arm. i really like Happ but there is another bat, a 3b did good in the cape last yr, but i can't remember his name. i don't know why, i an leery on Aiken.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2015 -> 09:26 PM) I FINALLY get the title. "Charles Barkley declares WAR with SABR studs" because WAR not only Sir Charles but Jeff Samardzija not a big fan of analytics as well. http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/whi...ics-342924.html

dang it, i was hoping for him to be signed by the sox of white .... Everth Cabrera.

how high is anyone on Aikens - sp??

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 02:01 AM) Like I've stated before, it would be nice if that did happen, but I believe like southsider said, it's better to get talent now rather than later. I really think that getting a college arm/bat and drafting HS talent mixed in with some college seniors in rounds 4-10 would be our best bet. would you say, after july 2 or would it be the following yr would be an ideal time to do it, with ref to the int'l signing period. you know sign all the possible talent then? but i am on board with that. however i think the sox brass will not allow that to happen. it would be sweet. so with the draft. how would you pick the first round??

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 02:47 AM) http://www.everything2.com/title/Winning+O...th+disabilities Technically, Keaton and Carrell also had disabilities (in their roles), especially DuPont. Unfortunately, being a billionaire in America (at least family wealth) allows one to be termed eccentric, ala Howard Hughes. dang it, i was reading something, i wish i save the blasted site, i was too busy though. did you see, read anything of a possible homosexual fixation in the DuPont story??? what i read stated that may have been an underline problem. remember i did not see the movie so i do not know anything.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 01:53 AM) Well, this thread has probably surpassed the number of pages on all other 29 teams' (including the Dodgers) websites devoted to the subject of Brandon Beachy. There's that. And yes, it was pretty silly to forget 2009 happened. I was too enamored with Gordon Beckham's golden flowing locks, lol. Maybe that's the curse of living and working in Thailand at that time, too many distractions. i really enjoyed this, i was on the firing line but it was all good. bos is going to be tough. sox baseball. not everyone will have the same opinions. just remember one thing, sox in 2015....

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 06:45 PM) Yep. If he went to the Padres or Dodgers I would root for a new superstar. But now that he's with my most hated Red Sox, that kid can go ahead and flop please. nah, i wouldn't want any prospects to flop, that is just not fair. but i would be extremely happy if it took him 4 yrs to develop in the minors.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 12:53 AM) At least the Cubs didn't get him. i would have love the sCrubs to have gotten him. 100% tax on his signing bonus. i know i was flopping around like a fish out of water on him, going back and forth on reasons to sign or not to sign. but the bottom line is 100 % tax is what sold me against, plus a range of 30 mil +. nah too much, let alone the penalty of not signing anyone. maybe next yr crop will be a great one to spurge on.

for the best actor category, i guess that was the right winner. i never saw the movie, so i can't based it on anything. did the actor deserved the oscar? i thought keaton or carrell would have won it.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 12:53 AM) Only starting pitcher Sox can depend on? What? yeah you are right and i was wrong, i should have said, outside the top 4 pitchers the sox may have going north.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 12:35 AM) Noesi probably still sucks. he is the only sp the sox can depend on, as of right now. i want him to succeed, b/c i want the sox to win.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 12:14 AM) Noesi had already been released once on the year after 2 terrible games with Seattle. He then pitched 4 innings for Texas, gave up 4 hits and a walk but 0 runs, bringing his ERA down to 5.06. He then faced the White Sox, who tagged him for 7 runs in 1 inning. His ERA jumped back to 14.21. Guys with ERAs of 14.21 who already were waived once don't often stay on teams rosters. what a find, i really cheer the underdog and i hope he comes out where he left off. as the count down begins for spring trng and the season, i am getting stoke. damn i can't wait

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2015 -> 11:13 PM) Rozner was telling a story about Noesi that I hadn't heard before. I knew that the White Sox liked him in the past but Rozner said something interesting this weekend. He said that when the White Sox were killing Noesi last season, Ken Williams called the dugout phone and told Cooper to watch him. Supposedly, Ken Williams said " We are going to have this guy next week and I know what is wrong with him". Then Ken Williams and Cooper broke down film and looked at the mechanics. Rozner mentioned that the White Sox think he is a rotation piece and not just some filler. He was coveted by the Sox for a long time. i am totally at a lost here, how in hades did KW and the FO knew of Noesi going on waivers let alone getting picked by the sox. another gem to give me a reminder of KW doing good.

as of right now, the bull pen is stacked. i would really hate to lose any rp. but let me ask this question, what is more important in the new season, pitching or positional players??