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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 02:11 AM) #2-#3 thanks.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 01:42 AM) No idea why people are making posts as if Miller wouldn't be our immediate closer if he was singed. He's got some of the best stuff for 1 inning of any pitcher in the league. If he's around the plate like he was last year he's dominant. Obviously some advanced scouting would need to be done to see if the scouts trust his improved control or not, but $8-10 million for a good closer isn't overpaying at all. here is a question I been meaning to ask. why do we need a closer. the sox have another yr of grooming in Jake Petricka - Zach Putnam.

what kind of pitcher is wheeler profiles to be. a #1 or #2 or #3???

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 01:49 AM) Exactly. It's nice to make fun of what might happen in 4 years, but we won't be laughing next year or two years from now if we don't make some big moves with our payroll flexibility. the sox do not have a choice but to make those moves now. the clock is ticking on taking full advantage of the young great players the sox have. but do not make moves for the sake of being able to. it has to be smart ones.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 01:32 AM) I don't see any other viable option to fill the need for a left handed, middle of the order bat. I'm now in favor of continuing to acquire young talent, and to target 2016 as the year to seriously contend. Let's see what they have in Garcia, Rodon and a couple of the young middle infielders, maybe even Wilkins. Then fill in the holes, in the next off season. That would mean that Hahn looks to the international market, to spend some of that money, burning a hole in his pocket. Might as well also trade Alexei, and get more youngsters. Sorry to be so negative, but I don't see how they put a contending team on the field this year. Even if they spend and extra $40 million, over last year, whom are they going to acquire, that would make them competitive for this season? I think you start off with a grade A pitcher and then sign Melky Cabrera, sign 2 really good relief pitchers.

the sox will not end the rebuilding by signing 1 A+ player. it will be with others players being sign. I truly think they understand that the sox need to field a winner, a team that can make the playoff. it is also one thing to get there and the other is what will the team do when they get there, find the final success. I also think the sox will make sure that they can repeat as well. so the best way is to start with 1 top notch front end starter. Whether it is Scherzer or Lester or somebody like them. they will have 3 extremely tough pitchers and with Rodon developing. if a starter gets hurt, the sox will have the pitchers to carry them. that is the start, the sox need to address other holes and they are committed in doing so. this will reflect in the attendance. I remember in the 2005, there were so many walk up tickets being sold, and other tickets being sold in groups. the following yr was great for the advance tickets. the biggest fear I have is the sox falls in love with what they have and do not make the subtle changes that is needed to continue to win. but these are my opinion.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 12:51 AM) You guys had me doing a double take there, thought there was a multiple personality argument going on I really had to think what you were saying until it dawn on me. good catch. funny.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 12:53 AM) Too much money for a bullpen arm. Rather sign three LHRP's for that money and see what you can get to stick. I really think the Sox are just checking in on every quality free agent to gauge interest and price. bingo..... but I think 2 arms for that price.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 12:37 AM) Miller is looking for a four year deal. much better than 5 but still.

I am happy for Det...... b/c the sox didn't sign him and I don't have to continue my discussion on how bad of selection it was. yesss.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 13, 2014 -> 12:02 AM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/101256810/cu...sive-in-workout that is going to be a tough decision to make. I wonder what kind of money it will take to sign him. another thing will be the posting date. I am still incline to say if it is this yr, No. if it next yr, yes.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 10:50 PM) I am old and forget things. What were we discussing again? too bad there isn't a smiley in a rocking chair. for old farts like me.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 10:05 PM) This is a great honor for both the page, and everyone who puts work into it. Top notch work guys! on the award...... what a great reward for all the hard work you guys do. there is nothing more I can say that hasn't been said. great job. so when is the next one.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 09:44 PM) Boston papers said minimum $40 mil for 5 years so I am guessing $10 Mil per year when bidding ends so a salary of 8-10 mil....... interesting.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:48 PM) I mean you can point to Tanaka as a negative, but I can also point to Darvish who's thrown the 8th most innings since coming over. Hisashi Iwakuma, who came over the same year, ranked 35th in innings and he was a reliever for the first half of his first year. Or Hiroki Kuroda who in all but 1 season recorded 30+ starts yes I did after hearing about his arm problems in ny. I found an article and posted the link on this site. the reporter wrote up a story of Tanaka pitching in the playoff, before he came over to the states, that he threw in 1 game 160+ pitches. the next game which was the next day he came in to relief and pitched an additional 3 innings. that whole series had him pitching like this. normal pitchers should have been resting. that was also the same during the season leading up to the playoff. so yeah after reading that and other articles I am leery. I have to give it to Darvish, he is a great pitcher. I wonder if he had to do something like that.

man I keep on coming back to this post. I biggest burning question is at what salary will it take to sign him.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:36 PM) This is true. What scares me is how many innings that skinny 6' 154 pound frame of his has thrown. His innings pitched and skinny frame makes me question his long term durability. Plus, his body will have to try and adapt to pitching every fifth start. Just not willing to to take the chance. esp with the wild arse money being thrown that way.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) Mets fan trying to alter the market. that is funny. but is it any different than what we are saying.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:30 PM) Many of those players are already attached to teams that are not the White Sox though. The Cubs are going to go all in again and I would not be surprised to see the Rangers do the same. I would expect another haul that is similar to this seasons, which is solid but not spectacular. The Sox can still spend in LA, just cannot spend more than $350K per player and there are a number of good players that can be had at that number. thanks. I will admit that I don't have any inside info on how the sox will do. I am just going from what I can read and dig up. it is crazy tho to watch and try to guess on how Hahn would do it.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:27 PM) Is Yoan Moncada worth two Micker Adolfo's? If the answer is yes, then make the deal. I agree however I am looking at this way. Yoan is older than the prospects like Micker. his development time will not take long or even he can help sooner than a Micker. the sox don't have the luxury of waiting for the player to develop. however the sox need to find a nice balance between quick rewards and long time rewards. now with the state of the sox systems, I would take a chance of the quick. that is depending on how the MLB FA's signing is going or is estimated to go.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:16 PM) I've been interested since first reading about him months ago. He's not gonna get Tanaka type money, and I think being scared off completely by what happened to Tanaka is a little silly. yeah you are right, however the Japanese pitchers throw a lot on innings and sometime back to back games.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:12 PM) Rios hasn't been mentioned as a guy expected to get a big payday. Hit .325/.353/.545 vs RHP in 2014. Plays a good defensive corner OF. Yeah, I know he has a history here and all that, but he could be a fairly productive guy that doesn't cost a lot. the sox burn and destroyed that bridge

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 08:00 PM) When did I say I want them to sign Scherzer? You keep implying that I said that, when in reality I think it would be a terrible idea. And sorry, expectations always drive ticket sales to some extent, I can't believe you and SS2K are actually arguing against this. Fans purchase single-game and season tickets in the offseason, and those decisions are heavily based on expectations. If the team goes out and spends $40M on free agents and vastly improves the team, those fans will be excited/optimistic and will more often than not purchase more tickets than they would have otherwise. Obviously if the team fails to meet expectations, walk-ups will drop as the season progresses. Winning clearly has a major impact on ticket sales, and I would argue to a larger degree, but to say offseason expectations have no impact on is on a Greg-level of thinking. if you guys don't mind, let me add that at what point will the sox fans see if the sox are fielding a team? by signing 1 A+ player or by addressing the holes of the teams. addressing the holes has many different definitions, signing token players to fill that hole or signing good players to fill that hole? I think the sox fans will know the difference.

with the dodgers and sox. it goes to how creative Hahn can get.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 06:42 PM) Still no word on if kenta maeda will be posted. He is a 26 yr old right hander in the Japanese league. Wonder if the sox would have interest or not. He pitched last night and shutout the mlb all stars. Here is a article on him http://m.mlb.com/news/article/101216162/ke...in-japan-series I like him, but at the same time overly cautious with how many innings he has pitched. I like it that he pitch and won. I wonder what the cost will be.