With cle, you have cc, c lee and westbrook, now they are getting millwood to help in the rotation. However lets look at what their minor league players and they are going to produce, Guthrie, miller, cruceta, dittler (?). and carmona. They have a good depth of prospect at pitching and look at the rest of the farm, it stock. However when I was mention cle, I was also looking at the rest of the team stats and how that helps in the win and lose category.
With det I was guilty of looking at something else when I was ranking them (young hitting team). I still like the young rotation of there’s. However they do have some young arms to looking at, sleeth's, zumaya's, sborz, and Woodyard. Again I will say that the performance of the hitters helps out with the win – lost record and I think they will be better. Actually i think that bonderman is the better of the 2 pitchers but again that is me.