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and why not?

in updating the sport news i came across this. jayson williams is trying to make a comeback attempt. i know he has some problems now and is still trying to clear up his life, and i also read where there was a lot of scouts watching his game. i even heard the phrase of "every player deserves a second chance." so here is a thought, why not take a chance on his and make him a temp contract. he still might have some game on defense and with his new outlook in life, maybe he can help groom the babybulls, esp curry.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 12, 2005 -> 08:30 PM) another thing that makes me like this move is Columbo finally getting his shot and it should be easier for him to do it at RT hopefully... only spot im a bit worried at is LG though dont trust Rex Tucker. not really, they can secure the ol, spend money of fa's wr and trade down in a weak draft and get who i think may be the best tackle in the draft in j brown. i am not too sure on m williams wr. he does not have the deep threat speed that the bears need and is looking for.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 12, 2005 -> 05:40 AM) I feel better about Pods. In the win share thread I did some number-crunching & found that Pods actually increased his impact # from 03 to 04. Pretty significant since his avg dropped from 313 to 244. In 03 he scored or had an rbi in 71 games. In 04 he upped that to 83. Lee has such an impact in 92 games for the CWS in 04. If Pods can do that we should be in good shape. if and only if pods and those involved in the trade played a part in that success.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 09:55 PM) There's no use crying about it. It's all going to come down to Pods. If he improves to his 2003 form it was a good trade if he declines further from 2004 this trade sucked big time. I do find it interesting that as much as Pods declined in 04 he still contributed to more than 20% of the B's wins. That's more than Dye did for Oak. so who is crying, i believe we were all talking in a positive light about the trade

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 08:34 PM) because KW isn't finished with his moves yet? and possibly wants one HUGE press conferance with all the new faces there. plus i am in the thinking that this is all going to be used for the soxfest. which in itself is a great pr.

QUOTE(babybearhater @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) Always Biatch!!! bastard

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 02:40 PM) For less than the $9 million that we are putting out in payroll for the guys we have now? And then who would be our C, RP, and LF that would be filling those rolls? so you are saying the clee tade was for a. salary dump where we can use the money elsewhere b. getting in players as fillers c. letting the sox pr machine take it and make it sound as this was the a trade that was great for us, where every one in the baseball world is saying we, the sox got taken.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) Add A.J and El Duque onto that list. KW obviously didn't make the deal for those 2 players alone, otherwise it would have fallen into the Jim Bowden and Brian Sabean territory of bone headed moves this off-season. i reread your post and please forgive but i still don't understand what you are meaning. it sounds interesting thou

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 05:20 PM) Actually it's in the next player thread. Anyways Soriano's expensive. He earned 7+M last year. Whomever trades for him will likely want 72 hrs to negotiate a multi-year deal. TEX is going to try & fleece HOU but that doesn't change the fact that they are working on a multi-year deal with Soriano as well. They have little to no chance of landing Delgado. It seems it's betw the Mets & Marlins. hey i agree with you, at the beginnnig of the offseason, i was intrigue with getting a quality 2b, but now with what is out there (fa's) and some of these so called trade rumors. i am pump now i was doing this on the discussion of the rumors.

QUOTE(babybearhater @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) good thing you made a whole new thread about it hey man, i am old here, my memory isn't as good as it used to be. btw are you a thread police

QUOTE(SEALgep @ Jan 11, 2005 -> 01:03 PM) Man some of you guys complain. We have a leadoff hitter who clearly has the ability to disrupt pitchers on the base paths, we now have a complete bull pen, and amongst other holes now filled because of the money saved. Face it people, Lee was a good player, but he didn't fit the new mold they're trying to build. He did fall out of favor with Ozzie and KW. It's nice to have fond memories and all, but the team is clearly better than last year, enough said. i was never a clee fan, lets get that straight. i on the thinking that anyone is tradeable for the right price. we have a speedster with a low avg and a middle of the road rp. which pods is coming to the sox, the rookie of the yr or the one who played last yr??? so you don't mind trading people as long as we save money???? do you not think clee is worth more than we got from mil?

i couldn't find the thread where we were talking about the rumors of soriano, so i made this. according to mlb.com team report, cbs rumor page, and espn insider, tex is looking into trading soriano esp now to houston. since tex is looking into getting c delgado. carlos wants a 15 mil+ contract and tex is not too happy in losing in arb to soriano where he is going to make the money he is going to and plus he made 23 errors in the field. so i hope helps you.

all this talk of jalen, one question, why would we wnat to take a step backwards and get jalen???

QUOTE(hi8is @ Jan 10, 2005 -> 07:17 AM) i saw a psycologist for a while it was helpful... i saw him after i got outta the UCLA pscyeatric ward for a drug induced pscyosis... i took shrooms and never came down... so i was a self proclamed spirital teacher that was going to go on a journey from califiornia to washington dc and protest the war by fasting once i got there (this was in febuaray right before the iraq war started.) i thought it was a good idea and all.. i was in a great state of being, really peaceful, loving, open, honest... just scared the s*** outta my folks... the pscyoloigst helped out a lot in making me understand that because they treated me like a loony in that place, that i really wasnt insane... just a little to outside of the box for society... they gotta make sure your standing in line instead of running around telling everyone to run around with you... not litterally =D i just dont think i need a psycologist right now, i just need to some how pull my head outta my ass and change. yeah, i still get bouts of depression. anyone who still remembers me esp from the old rival board to the other sox board to now, know i usually don't disappear. when i do, it is b/c i am usually going thru a bout of depression. but i rather admit and deal with it. i find it more healty to admit it and let me and family live thru it. bottom line, don't let s*** knock you down. get up off the ground and dust yourself off.

is he worth, with the number being divided into the yrs, what turns out to be 17 mil a yr????

and if some of the question marks concerning pitching turns to be pretenders, then it is going to be a long summer. duke, cont and garland. well it is not fair for me to include garland there, he will give us 10-14 wins and 175+ innings.. i hope he does better being in the #5 hole. but the other 2????

i am a big advocate of overtrading to pick up what imo would be a missing part to take the team to the next level. with that in mind, i am not too sure if this might be one of those trades for kw to make or just merely another trade in which he,kw was taken to the bank. kw has a history of overtrading that i am in constant fear when i hear of a trade being made or is rumored to make. i am not a kw supporter and i might never be one, so again i am asking, is this the best that he could have done??? for pete sake kw didn't even bring in a quality ptbnl. come on, mil has a really nice system to get someone in the lower level, or was this a trade of paying back some of the favors that bud did for the sox????

QUOTE(hi8is @ Jan 10, 2005 -> 07:03 AM) wow man, i cant even imagne that bro... how did you dig yourself outta the hole that those evens put you in? im just having trouble throwin the switch... you know, intsead of falling asleep on the couch watching tv... accually going to bed, setting the alarm... getting up and doing productive things instead of moaping around just floating through life. a great family and many visits to the doctors office

who is the girl???

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 10, 2005 -> 01:56 AM) Where did you real that? I've read they've been trying to sign him to a multi-year deal ever since he arrived. i hate to be a bearer of bad news, but the q-kid is right, tex been trying to get rid of him esp after this past season. rumor is he is somewhat of a cancer in the dugout. i read it before in espn, cbs rumor sites as well as other places.

thanksgiving 1999 what i consider to be my stepmom, she died of a sudden heart attack xmas 1999 my brother died of a heart attacked march 19, 2000 who i consider to be my stepfather yeah the ladies husband, died of a heart attack. you have to understand the relationship i had with this husband and wife, they were my best friend parents and what we gone thru, i was their so called adopted child as they were my so called step parents. those were the some tough times for me. later in march 2000 i found out that my mother had a brain tumor and she is still doing great, and i retired on april 2, 2000. i needed to think on what is life and what it means to me. my feelings is family is the best and never go to bed without telling them that you love them, those express feelings may be the last time.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jan 9, 2005 -> 07:29 AM) People just need to grow up. That's all. who me!!

i like to take back all the nice things i have said about you. :banghead

this will open a can of worms for anyone in the future.....i can see that happening