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TRIPLE f***ING PLAY!!!! AHAHAH EAT s***!!!!

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ May 14, 2006 -> 08:37 PM) [Kalapse] MBINAA [/Kalapse] GET IN THE CHAT JEW WHORE!!!!!!!!!!

NICE WORK MARK!!!!!!!!! NOW THATS OUR ACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alright MARK. Time to hold these guys in check now.

We got a good crowd in there and chat is rockin. Lets pack em in boys!!!

PODS WITH A GAPPER!!!!!!!!!!!! TIE BALL GAME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Looks like the boys aint gonna give up that easily. 7-5 now. WOO HOO!!!

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 14, 2006 -> 07:30 PM) Alright, get a DP right here, lets get out of this tied... Uhhh. How bout no.

Well we obviously don't want the lead so we just gave it right back to them. Ugh! :rolly

You guys can start playing defense any f***ing day now. :rolly

Chat anyone? You know where to go. DO IT!!!

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 14, 2006 -> 04:56 PM) Thankfully he's not a Republican President. He would have blamed the lightning on Zeus and decided to invade Greece to destroy their powerful fortress on Mount Olympus. LOL!!!! Thats awesome. I love it!

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 14, 2006 -> 07:08 PM) Those things would be simple. How about securing our ports? How about rebuilding the CIA's human intelligence unit abroad? How about not revealing the names of undercover operatives for political payback? Even better, how about working with the massive population from which terrorist organizations draw their recruits from and actively win their hearts and minds by being respectful of the culture in which they live while bettering the poverty that their culture suffers from? That last one is hard. It takes a while to do and it requires diplomacy and some eating of crow - something that this administration and many others before it have proven themselves again and again unable to do. Instead, we get color coded charts, and laws getting broken and freedoms being abridged in the name of protecting the rule of law and freedom. The truth is you'll never be truly safe from someone hell bent on strapping a bomb to their chest and blowing their s*** up in a city, or on a bus or wherever. If that's all you want, go find your fortified panic room and stay there. Because all the wiretaps in the world and all the closed circuit surveillance isn't going to keep Joe Terrorist from blowing s*** up if he really wants to. Because if that were the case, the IRA's back would have been broken by 1985 and Al-Qaida wouldn't have dared bomb s*** in Madrid or the UK. European countries have a lot of the same "protections" that our administration seems to be moving to, but as you can see - they payoff isn't worth the cost. Because terrorism is still happening in Europe, just like it is everywhere in the world. What solves the problem? Being realistic about the problem. Not wiretapping every phone in America and certainly not logging a bunch of phone calls to see who calls whom. Its wonderfully ironic how Democrats now want us to recruit more Humint sources when they spent the whole of the 1990s tearing that structure to the ground and hauling away the wreckage. The fact of the matter is, Rex, that we spend billions of dollars on aid to Muslim countries, we make them insanely rich with oil money and look at how we're repaid. What did the U.S. do when Iran had a massive earthquake last year? What did we do when the same thing happened to Pakistan? What do people in those countries think of us? They hate our guts. There is nothing we can do to change the minds of these Islamo-fascists because they are born and raised to hate America.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ May 14, 2006 -> 06:55 PM) The things that they are avoiding are the ones that take more than a 4 year term to have an impact. Like addressing the roots of the hatred. Acknowledging our mistakes in the region publicly might be a good start. Also, and this is a really tough one, I think we need to focus more on the Israeli-Palestinian situation. And focus on more than events and people - focus on a long term solution and, if necessary, bring down the hammer on both sides (I am not saying that is some easy thing, but its THE nexus point in the region politically, in my mind). The biggest thing we can do is get off oil. Now. No more B.S. As soon as we stop relying on that region in any economic way, we suddenly have a breadth of possible tools at our disposal in the region. There is little more important than that right now. One point I dont agree with and the other I TOTALLY agree with. 1st point: Personally, I dont give a whit about why the Islamo-fascist movement doesn't like America. There's nothing we can do to stop them from hating us so much when they are taught from the time they are born that America is evil and full of godless infidels. 2nd point: I couldn't agree with you more about the need to get off of our oil addiction. I look at Brazil with envy because they did what they had to do and now they are completely energy independent. I really hope that I can live to see the day when we're as independent as they are and can tell the Middle East to go to hell.

QUOTE(samclemens @ May 14, 2006 -> 06:40 PM) http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/13/us/13duke.html well, the DNA results are in...and they match this strippers boyfriend, and the stripper's boyfriend ONLY. how long until we call the biggest, fattest duck in american jurisprudence hypocrisy in recent memory what it is???? Now that all this nonsense about the Duke players having raped anyone has been put to rest, these boys are going to file a mondo lawsuit for false arrest and they're gonna get paid. What did I say before? The DA had no case and he used this scuzzy stripper b****'s false accusations to bring forth phony, yet sensational rape charges. All of this was done so he could pander to the black community and secure his own re-election. How many lives have been ruined because of this scuzzy b**** and this dirtbag DA? The whole team, the coach, that poor taxi driver who now has been arrested on an old charge simply to shut him up, and the team member's families. Let the lawsuits commence. Sue that scuzzy b**** for slander and take whatever she's got left, sue the DA's office for filing false charges based on nothing but the word of the aforementioned scuzzy b**** and try to move on from there.

I was reading northsidebaseball a little while ago and it looks like they are ready for mass suicide. LOL!!!!

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 14, 2006 -> 05:18 PM) Cutting off aid to Mexico makes the problem worse. We want them to help keep drugs from getting to our users, we want them to cut pollution that reaches the US, we want them to upgrade their border crossing to help our businesses. We do not want them to have a big military, so we offer protection, etc. We want to keep them an ally. Bottom line, cutting aid to Mexico then adds a carrot to come to the US. That would not help. The better Mexico is doing, the less of an incentive there is for their population to leave. Mexico has 2 main exports to the United States. Drugs and poor people. They are not going to do anything concrete to improve the situation on the border no matter how much money we give them. They simply wish to export their poverty problem to this country instead of doing something on their own to solve the problem. Its the same deal with narcotics. Their government is an order of magnitude more corrupt than even the Daley administration is in Chicago. Its way past time they were punished for their misconduct.

QUOTE(gosox41 @ May 14, 2006 -> 10:04 AM) Cub fans care if there team wins or loses? They must be actually protesting the unfair May weather they've received. That must be it. I mean drinking isn't nearly as fun when it's 41 and raining as it is when it's 75 degrees, sunny, and the girls are in bikinis. That must be what they are protesting. Because paying a lot of money for an inferior product year in and year out and then complaining about it isn't protesting. It's ignorance and whinning. Bob I think youre right. The cold, rainy weather must be killing their buzz.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ May 14, 2006 -> 05:54 PM) Would you doubt them if it was Mark Buehrle being inducted? Mark Buerhle doesn't whine about money. Mark Buerhle doesn't trash the team. Mark Buerhle isin't a selfish, loud-mouthed asshole. Any questions?

QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 14, 2006 -> 04:53 PM) fortunately he was passed out drunk, if he wasn't he probably would have freaked out and done something irrational (what most democrats do during an emergency). What do you mean during an emergency? They do irrational stuff all the time.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ May 14, 2006 -> 04:29 PM) We became reliant on technology because it did SOME things really well. Then the bureaucrats saw things through rose-colored glasses, and extrapolated that into the ability to cut manpower and human intelligence. That second sentence describes what went wrong. And I agree, Clinton was part of that. But then, so was Congress. One of the few good things that has come from our governmental adjustment to the realities of a post-9/11 world is the drive to use BOTH sigint and humint. I hope that continues. Agreed.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 14, 2006 -> 04:24 PM) Since it clearly doesn't work, let's continue doing it then! But blame Clinton for why it still doesn't work. Nice. How would you know whether it has worked or not?

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 14, 2006 -> 04:16 PM) I'd rather the occasional bombing than having my freedom curtailed. Because the occasional bombing is going to happen whether or not we track everyone on camera and tap phones at will. Just ask the folks in London. This sort of stuff stops nothing, ultimately, and its a greater reliance on technology and not actual human intelligence that gave us the intelligence problem we currently have in the first place. What was it that made us so reliant on technology anyway? Oh yeah. It was Clinton stopping the CIA from recruiting anyone.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 14, 2006 -> 01:18 PM) That's great. But you forget that the Bush administration closed off diplomatic dialogue with North Korea in 2001 - about the same time that they intensified efforts to get a nuclear weapon. And now, we're stuck in a stalemate with an Atomic North Korea which helps ensure the state's stability and also helps make regime change less possible from outside forces because of the risk of a nuclear blast in the region. So we seem to have a couple different scenarios - a set of options that you seem to support and a set of options that I seem to support. I seem to support the idea of a diplomatic dialogue with a goal of a peaceful settlement to the situation, while preparing ourselves to take part in any necessary measures to ensure resolution in our favor down the road. You seem to support one of two ideas (and I'm unsure which): Do nothing and whine "I told you so" when Iran does become nuclear. Or enter a military conflict that we clearly are not ready for nearly immediately since this untested possibility of dialogue is bulls*** because other countries didn't talk to us before. If countries like Iran were genuinely interested in diplomacy then Id be all for it but when its simply a sham to buy time then its worthless.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 14, 2006 -> 12:59 PM) They won't be seeing their grandchild very often (if at all) in the future if Tommy and his beloved wife are true believers of the religion. I find it funny how people can take a religion so seriously when the whole thing is based on a barroom bet and includes space aliens and other assorted craziness. I wonder how long it's gonna be before Katie gets sick of this nonsense and tells Cruise to f*** off and die.