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QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ May 15, 2006 -> 05:44 PM) I'm moving this to the Filibuster, because #1 its just too gross to not be behind the disclaimer forum and #2 we need more stuff to agree on in there. Rex. Did you not read the thread? Everyone here seems to agree that these people need to be tortured and killed.

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 15, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) Yes. Seems obvious to me. Yes, no one. I didn't mean to lump deportation and immigration into one, sorry if it came off that way. The only thing connecting them is what to do with the current population while deciding on the new immigrants. I believe if you are already here, haven't been in any trouble, have a good employment history, you should stay before someone standing at the gate. And since no one is advocating deportation, I guess we all agree. Unless we want to add a few million to our prison population. Tex. We've been over this ground before. Take away their social benefits and their ill-gotten jobs and they will leave on their own.

QUOTE(WCSox @ May 15, 2006 -> 04:04 PM) Yep, with Hermanson's future still up in the air, Nelson still an unknown, and Thornton and Logan not being the best choices in a tight game, we're counting on Cotts and Politte to step up big-time. Logan not the best choice in a tight game?!?!?! HOW DARE YOU!!! Dont you realize that Boone Logan is the Chuck Norris of the White Sox?!??!!? He's going to find out who you are and where you live and when he does........he's gonna knock you into next week, then travel through time to next week and knock you back into this week. Don't talk s*** about Boone Logan!!!

QUOTE(SnB @ May 15, 2006 -> 01:16 PM) i'm just looking forward to the complete mismatch these series are going to be. Of all the men against boys mismatches we've been involved in this season this is the absolute worst of em. Nothing less than a sweep would be acceptable.

You guys pretty much said it all. These people should be tortured and then kept alive so that they could be tortured some more.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ May 15, 2006 -> 01:32 PM) Not sure if this has been discussed, but if Anderson's bat continues to stay under .200, and the Twins are willing to deal, I would love to see Hunter roaming our outfield. Obviously his glove is unreal...but he is also a pretty decent hitter, and we know he knows how to run over a cather. Ouch! Should we pursue him and what do you think he would cost us? No and too much. Any questions?

Cotts ERA is now a very respectable 2.65 and Politte's has come down from the stratosphere to 5.65. Its a REALLY encouraging sign to see these guys getting on track.

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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 15, 2006 -> 01:12 PM) You also don't hang a help wanted sign up at your door right after the goverment fills your front lawn with razor wire & tries to arrest everyone coming across it. As long as they come through the gate and I know who's coming in and out I dont have a problem with it.

QUOTE(Texsox @ May 15, 2006 -> 11:48 AM) As I mentioned, if you get a chance, pick up Spoiled : The Dangerous Truth about a Food Chain Gone Haywire it is an excellent synopsis on where our agriculture programs are heading. As our population is rising, our agriculture acreage is decreasing. At some point, the author theorizes, our increases in yields will no longer offset those decreases and we will become more dependent on foreign foods. We don't think of Ag as an important part of national security, but it is almost as vital as safe drinking water. So its population increases that are causing this problem huh? I guess we need to have a Chinese-style population control programme to prevent us from having to import food then huh?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 15, 2006 -> 11:48 AM) So you agree that he's the most corrupt political official of all time? Wow, I'm no expert in politics, but I think I could could come up with a couple dozen political leaders who would be considered much more... Can you at least agree that he's a really bad leader?

QUOTE(whitesoxmurph @ May 15, 2006 -> 12:51 AM) I can't wait for the Reality show show with OJ entitled..."How to explain to your kids you beheaded their Mother". Im also waiting for his instructional video on "How to Find the Real Killers". Shot, of course, from lovely Pebble Beach Golf Course.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ May 15, 2006 -> 11:45 AM) lol...Not a hint of negative bias... There wouldn't be any negative bias if his regime produced anything positive. Instead of trying to help his people with economic reform he chooses to export his poverty problem to the United States. Its a sad commentary about a failed leader.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 15, 2006 -> 11:40 AM) LMAO! Vincente Fox is upset about the "militarization" of the border!?!? Maybe if we weren't under invasion from his country, with direct aid from his government, it wouldn't be necesary for our troops to protect our borders. I wonder if he ever thought about stopping the tide of migration out of his country would stop the border problem. Canada doesn't have half a million people streaming in here illegally every year, and guess what, we haven't had to worry about sending troops to that border. Vicente Fox is the most crooked, corrupt son of a b**** I have ever seen hold office. He is running a corrupt, impoverished, narco-state who's 2 main exports are narcotics and impoverished people.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 15, 2006 -> 11:35 AM) Yeah, I am a touch annoyed with this decision. I'm annoyed with the fact that it will almost certainly delay the creation of a real settlement of the issue in Congress. I'm annoyed with the fact that I don't think it'll be even remotely effective. I'm annoyed with the fact that last December, the head of the National Guard said that it was rapidly becoming a "Broken Force" because of Iraq, it has 30% of it's equipment, 20% of it's force is in Iraq at any given time, and we think it can still be used for this. And I think I'm most annoyed with the fact that the President is doing this not because of some crisis, or because we're at a turning point, or because there's an army of Illegals getting ready to cross the border and we need that support down there now, but he's doing this because his poll numbers are sagging so he needs to shore them up. Put this stupid plan to rest, Mr. President, and act like a President. Start calling your Republican Congresspeople, who've been subservient to you so damn often, into your office, and work with them to try to find the votes for a compromise. Take care of this problem forever, and stop with the stupid window dressing. To say this is being to shore up poll numbers is every bit as ludicrous as when Republicans bashed Clinton for his "wag the dog" war in Kosovo back in 1999. If you want to complain about immigration reform not being passed I suggest you look to your own f***ing democratic senators who have been obstructing immigration reform all year long. Their goal is to hold up this legislation as long as they can so as to deny Bush any manner of legislative victory ahead of the mid-terms. Their obstructionism is petty politics at its worst and you choose to ignore it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ May 15, 2006 -> 11:34 AM) At least we are one step closer to some good old fashioned major urban race riots after some green weekend soldier shoots and kills someone coming over to try to make a better life for their family. You don't know a damn thing about the Guard if you refer to them as "green weekend soldiers". Guardsmen and Reservists are every bit as well trained as the active force and many of them are combat vets. They get the same training the active force gets. They perform the same missions the active force does and they are every bit as professional as the active force. The amount of whining and complaining I hear coming from the left is just rediculous regarding this issue. The border needs to be sealed. PERIOD! The fact that the left is making excuses for and apologizing for illegal aliens just goes to uphold their long standing tradition of coddling criminals. At the end of the day thats all these people are. Criminals.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ May 14, 2006 -> 11:17 PM) Well we're just going on some random blog report but for debates sake... I don't think they charge one of the most powerful men in the World if he just made a mistake in testifying. The Ken Starr argument? Maybe I've missed some things but from what I've heard this Fitzgerald guy is as classy as they come. Also the blog report says its not just perjury, but that he'll also be charged with lying to investigators and apparently he still may be charged with obstruction of justice. If the blog report is true the media will go bonkers for this. I mean this is the guy that's supposed to be Bush's Brain, and he's constantly named one of the most fascinating people in America. It'll be huge. I still need something more concrete than rumors from a leftist blog to make a big deal of this. Wake me up when something really happens.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 15, 2006 -> 11:19 AM) So I figured since the President has decided that for some reason right now is the crisis moment in the history of immigration along our southern border, tonight's speech and Bush's reported decision to send the National Guard to the southern border probably deserved it's own thread. Vicente Fox called the President yesterday and expressed his concern over the "militarisation of the border", and in response the White House said that this was only a temporary measure. So, I can imagine we'll have quite the variety of reactions. Personally, I can't help but sit here and think that 10,000 troops who aren't allowed to actually do any apprehending will wind up, you know, not doing much apprehending. But at least it'll get the anti-immigrant base fired up before the election. And of course, we may also be following that up by hiring more mercenaries to do the job after the Guard gets pulled back. What, we didn't give them enough business in Iraq? And then there's the last question; who will be the lucky national guard member who will win the nationwide lottery for the priveledge of being the only guard member not on active duty right now? Balta seems a touch annoyed with this decision. The guard units will facilitate communications and support roles now being performed by BP agents thusly freeing them up to do their jobs apprehending illegals. Whats this mercenaries talk anyway. Methinks you've been reading too much Soldier of Fortune. :rolly This is a good decision and it's long overdue.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 14, 2006 -> 10:52 PM) Well, that doesn't suck either. I'd like to see someone else with an 18-3 (.857) record. I got that beat. The Sox are unbeaten when I write a winner thread.

LOL You guys want to laugh? MB's line 6+ IP 1 ER That sounds like a quality start to me.

This game is just what we needed to get the winning momentum back. We looked like we were kinda flagging a bit but I think this one will wake us this up.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 14, 2006 -> 10:12 PM) This is a very, very big win for this club. They showed alot to battle back from a 7-3 1st inning, especially from Mark. Great game today boys, showed alot. ^^^^^ We had no business winning this game but MB grabbed his balls and had a good outing after the 1st and the O came through and picked him up. Good times!!!

EAT s*** TWINKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE ONE GOOD INNING THEN PLAY CORPSEBALL?!?!?! NOT AGAINST US YOU DON'T!!!!!!!! THIS IS WHY WE ARE THE BEST TEAM IN f***ING BASEBALL AND YOU GUYS JUST f***ING BLOW ASS!!!!!!!!!! GIMMIE A HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We dont need another arm in the bullpen. We have BOONE LOGAN!!!!!!!! A GOD AMONG MEN!!!!!!!!!!

WHY CAN'T MB EVER GET THE 1ST GUY OUT?!?!?! This is REALLY annoying.